Get Your Musical Complaints Off Your Chest

[xplosive59]

Deathcore i cannot stand because it is just death metal with all the good stuff taken out, also people who dont think that modern metal is crap and that it has become all mainstream, to those people i say that they are not looking hard enough for good bands.

also i when a metal band do a ballad (just look at Avantasias the Scarecrow album cause that is almost all ballad) and believe the band has sold out, no they havnt sold out they are just trying to keep their music varied so that their audience doesnt get bored. Also when people say Death Metal is just noise, cause it isnt and it is either very bad bands or "grindcore", i know why people would think this because my mate always listens to braindrill out loud as well as stuff like annotations of an autopsy and so when people walk past with him listening to it of course there first impression is going to be that all metal sounds like that.

also bland music such as radiohead, all of the stuff on kerrang and pretty much all hip hop and RnB released after 1998

Autotune i also hate cause it destroys what the singer actually sounds like and it is so obvious that they are using it so they dont sound crap, and people like Kesha who deny using it although it is so damn obvious

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Loving your ziltoid avatar btw, i can see by that that you have a good taste in music

 

[-Samurai-]

I listen to Hollywood Undead.... It just ticks all the boxes.

I would never ever buy one of their albums, but they're one hell of a live band. I saw them in a crowd of about 13,000 people, and they had everyone moving. Their live energy is great.

OT: My only complaint is that all music seems stale after getting into Coheed and Cambria. Their music makes sense. It isn't just noise on cool instruments. The music and lyrics are genius, their live show is fantastic(I can't even describe it), and even the concept they're based on is pure awesome.

All this was created by a guy that doesn't understand the first thing about musical theory, and simply plays what he feels. You can physically see it in their live shows, too.

 

[Milo Windby]

There's too many amazing Iron Maiden songs, I can't pick a favorite!

I feel your pain on this one... my favorite song tends to switch from day to day, week to week and even hour by hour sometimes...

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

I listen to Hollywood Undead.... It just ticks all the boxes.

I would never ever buy one of their albums, but they're one hell of a live band. I saw them in a crowd of about 13,000 people, and they had everyone moving. Their live energy is great.

Yeah I saw them live awhile ago and they always have great performances.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

I hate over earnest kerrang rock like 30 seconds to mars, christ they suck. they all do.I also hate most metal, fucking tuneless noise (I have a friend who loves it so i know enough to judge). Most of its as sacharrine and poor as any chart hit today, just with a different backing. Although there is good stuff, I must admit (i am partial to a bit of Iron Maiden for example)

I hate people who hate all rap, even when all they've listened to is fiddy and the crap they have now. Don't dismiss a whole genre based on a limited knowledge. Try some public enemy or de la soul, even eric b and rakim are pretty good. even modern rap can be brilliant, such as Outkast and ghostface Killah.

The same can be said of pop, which is also often maligned. The beatles played pop music, so did MJ. Are they crap? No. Good pop is great, just as bad pop is bad. it's the same with most genres.

And RnB, RnB isn't Rihanna singing badly then a rapper coming in. it's Ray Charles doing his thing or Motown, the whole of motown. Anyone who dismisses RnB is a cretin, because theres still some good stuff out there keeping the spirit of it alive.

oh, and I really dslike most prog rock, I've tried listening to it and just don't care for it at all (except for Pink floyd and king crimson).

Not liking something does not make it tuneless noise, please tell me what metal music you know that is, the rest of your post has a go at people for hating forms of music you like based on their limited knowledge, I'd like to know how far your knowledge of metal goes that you can call it noise.

On that note, people who call metal tuneless noise make me want to break something. Also, the fact that creativity goes unrewarded while keeping to the same formula over and over again not improving on it nets "artists" millions of dollars/pounds annoys me.

 

[Random Argument Man]

I'm going insane because of country music. I hate the thing. I work at my local Wal-mart and I hear country music each night because that's what all the old ladies like. I brought my own music once and they all became crazy.

By the way, you start liking Miley Cyrus, Justin Bieber and the whole pop kids after hearing french acadian country music.

It's that bad.

 

[Lawyer105]

Oh yeah, I'm well aware of that. But what is really the accepted definition of pleasant? For example, that noise of which you speak I find quite pleasant myself. I'm just curious as to what your definition of pleasant music actually is.

I'm not using it as an 'accepted definition'. That implies a sort of universal constant. Something that is 'true' for people as a whole. In this case, 'pleasant' is a specific value - mine.

If I find something pleasant (e.g. Andrea Bocelli, or 30 Seconds to Mars), then it's good music. If I find something a bit meh, but have nothing against it (e.g. Coldplay), then it's just music.

If I find something objectionable or unpleasant (e.g. death /thrash metal), then I don't call it music. I simply can't understand how it can be considered music, in the same way that I don't understand how somebody can literally throw paint at a canvas, go 'meh it's good enough', and call it art.

 

[pantallica95]

I like most music, but I don't see the appeal of most death metal/black metal. You know, the stuff where the vocals are just screaming and the instruments sound like they're in pain? It just doesn't really qualify as music to me. The lyrics might be super deep, but I can't understand them.

Of course, one of my favorite types of music is showtunes, so there you are.

Take it from a death metal/black metal fan, one of the appeals (to me) of the music is the raw emotion behind it. Whether it be anger, sadness, terror, disgust, ecstasy or depression, it's simply how they get the emotion across. Now, there are bands like Cannibal Corpse where there is no emotion present at all. And then there were some of the Norwegian black metal nutcases, where it was more of an ideological statement.

As for the instruments, many death metal drummers and guitar players are some of the most technical players, and some of the shit they do is amazing. Chuck Schuldiner, Mikael Akerfeldt, Ihsahn, Tomas Haake, Gene Hoglan, and Trey Azagthoth are some examples of amazing musicians within the confines of the extreme metal confines.

 

[Lawyer105]

Going back to a point raised by Lawyer105...

Does EVERY track need to have a profound meaning? Most, if not all, popular peices of music (this includes classical pieces) are remembered for sounding good. A deep meaning, to my ears, is a bonus, not a necessity.

I think you misunderstand my use of 'meaning'. Probably because I wasn't desperately clear!

Is 'meaning' earth changing, spirit altering, reality defying stuff that completely blows me away and will never be equalled again? No. That's just silly. Should it answer the great questions of life, why we're here etc.? No. Same deal. But it has to make you feel. Even if it's just a feeling of 'that was quite nice to listen to'. If it doesn't move you in some way, then it can't (from your perspective) be considered art (although you can still see that other people can consider it art - even if it makes no sense!).

Something like the Lion King's "He lives in you", or Mozart's Requiem, or Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" are powerful pieces of music. Other things, like 30 Seconds to Mars "This is war", or Immediate Music's "Liberty Shield" are just good music, that let you close your eyes and listen, but don't rock the world.

 

[socialtangent]

My sister absolutely loves popular music, so I've been (unfortunately) exposed to a wide "variety" of it. After years of her speakers blaring this stuff, I have come to a conclusion: It all sounds the fucking same. There is no discernible difference between Singer/Rapper #1 and Singer/Rapper #2. Auto-tune has ensured that everyone's singing is pitch-perfect, and nearly identical. The music itself is also very bland and uninteresting. Most songs I hear on the radio use the same song structure, and the same beats. I notice the same type of kick drum, snare drum, hi-hats, etc, and it bugs the ever-living hell out of me. Usually the only thing that can distinguish one song from another is the recognizable chorus/hook. Some songs even lack a recognizable feature and are just bland rapping over a "dry hump people in the club" beat.

I could go on for hours, really.

 

[benrules12345]

I Think That Glee Is The Worst Music Ever The Should Just Cancel It And Stop Ripping Of Classic Songs For Example "Dont Stop Believing - Journey" And "Gives You Hell - All American Rejects"

Also I Believe That Disney Is Ruining The Music Industry ! Everything The Release Is Total Shit On Chips

 

[Lawyer105]

Well, for the record, I'm not a fan of those genres either, but I just have a problem with anyone saying that certain types of music aren't music just because they don't like them. I mean, fair enough if you don't like them, but apart from being, as you put it, unpleasant, there's nothing to say that death and trash aren't music. By and large, they both use standard enough chords, scales, have verses and chorus's, lyrics and melodies. There are exceptions, but there's exceptions in every genre.

Basically what I'm saying is that I don't really understand how pleasant something is defines its value as music, but I suppose it's just your way of looking at it, which you're entitled to.

Read the post again. I just said that I don't consider it to be music. You can call it anything you like. If I was to give a lecture on 'genres of music' or whatever, it would be included - because that is an objective assessment. If I was to discuss music with my mates (or indeed a post about musical complaints), it would be excluded - because it's a personal assessment.

 

[TheSentinel]

Oh yeah, I'm well aware of that. But what is really the accepted definition of pleasant? For example, that noise of which you speak I find quite pleasant myself. I'm just curious as to what your definition of pleasant music actually is.

I'm not using it as an 'accepted definition'. That implies a sort of universal constant. Something that is 'true' for people as a whole. In this case, 'pleasant' is a specific value - mine.

If I find something pleasant (e.g. Andrea Bocelli, or 30 Seconds to Mars), then it's good music. If I find something a bit meh, but have nothing against it (e.g. Coldplay), then it's just music.

If I find something objectionable or unpleasant (e.g. death /thrash metal), then I don't call it music. I simply can't understand how it can be considered music, in the same way that I don't understand how somebody can literally throw paint at a canvas, go 'meh it's good enough', and call it art.

Here's the thing, though. If you consider something not to be music simply on the grounds that you don't like how it sounds, then you're doing it wrong.

Because, let's face it, there are shitloads of music genres out there. There's stuff like Noise music, which to most people just sounds like a bunch of, well, noise. But, to the people who like it, it is enjoyable music.

So, I'm not saying you have to like everything, but don't just dismiss anything out of hand as "not music," just because you don't like it.

EDIT: Fuck, Furburt beat me to it.

 

[dnnydllr]

There's too many amazing Iron Maiden songs, I can't pick a favorite!

This is a dilemma that I have found myself in many times. The only clear answer is that you need not restrict yourself to one favorite. In fact, you can have as many favorites as you want and they can all be regarded as equally awesome. On topic, I'm really beginning to hate how every single popular song has some level of "auto-tuning" in it. I understand that most of the singers are just too plain terrible to allow their natural voices to be heard, but it makes the song sound like shit.

 

[Brainplant]

Going back to a point raised by Lawyer105...

Does EVERY track need to have a profound meaning? Most, if not all, popular peices of music (this includes classical pieces) are remembered for sounding good. A deep meaning, to my ears, is a bonus, not a necessity.

I think you misunderstand my use of 'meaning'. Probably because I wasn't desperately clear!

Is 'meaning' earth changing, spirit altering, reality defying stuff that completely blows me away and will never be equalled again? No. That's just silly. Should it answer the great questions of life, why we're here etc.? No. Same deal. But it has to make you feel. Even if it's just a feeling of 'that was quite nice to listen to'. If it doesn't move you in some way, then it can't (from your perspective) be considered art (although you can still see that other people can consider it art - even if it makes no sense!).

Something like the Lion King's "He lives in you", or Mozart's Requiem, or Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" are powerful pieces of music. Other things, like 30 Seconds to Mars "This is war", or Immediate Music's "Liberty Shield" are just good music, that let you close your eyes and listen, but don't rock the world.

I see what you mean now. It's why I rather listen to a track that makes me go "ARGH, I HATE THIS SONG!!!", as opposed to a track that makes me shrug and think "I've heard better". The former may make me want to rip out my eyes and shove them down my ears, but at least it got an emotion out of me.

 

[Furious Styles]

Not liking something does not make it tuneless noise, please tell me what metal music you know that is, the rest of your post has a go at people for hating forms of music you like based on their limited knowledge, I'd like to know how far your knowledge of metal goes that you can call it noise.

Yes, okay its hypocritical of me to say that. but there are literally whole genres of metal that are tuneless and they take pride in that. there's some metal I like, don't get me wrong, like a fair amount of thrash metal bands (basically metallica, megadeth and slayer, obvious I know) and all the classics like anything associated with Dio (RIP), Judas Priest and Iron Maiden. I suppose stuff like Killswitch Engage isn't too bad, I Love Bad brains and they're fairly metally, also Pantera aren't bad.

The thing is is that metal is a very wide genre, bands like Deep purple (hell, even led zep) which i would call classic rock are considered metal. it goes from great stuff to, well, it's called goregrind and while there may be lyrics, they are disgusting and the "music" is just unpleasant as are the vocals. I suppose I focused too much on the more extreme metal genres, which, I'm sorry, are tuneless noise. And they would fully admit to being tuneless noise, they would only object to the use of the word "just."

What i've heard of symphonic metal isn't bad at all, but i haven't heard much

Long story short, i made too sweeping of a generalisation and I'm truly sorry

 

[Gruchul]

"What are they listening to?". Certainly this doesn't apply to everyone, but those of you who do it, you know who you are. Now, when you ask this person about their currently playing song, there are a few possible outcomes.

A) The person tells you the song, and you like it.
B) The person tells you the song, and you don't like it.
C) The person doesn't tell you, and you are fine with that.
D) The person doesn't tell you, and you are upset by that.

Now, in situation A, the only thing you can really do from there is say "Okay, that's great, I like them as well.

In situation B, you will want to criticize their choice in music. When you do, this can lead to an argument.

In situation C, you ask, you don't get an answer, and you are fine with that. If you are fine with that, why did you ask in the first place?

In situation D, you don't relieve and answer, and rightly so, you are upset. Now you've begun another argument with the person.

I feel you have over-simplified the choices that can be made and worse still, not presented them in a balanced way. First of all, the glaring omission; what if you've not heard the song/artist before? You then inquire as to their genre/style and take from that useful information as to whether or not you should check it out (let's call this situation E). As well as this, you may be offered the chance to share their music (also a possibility for situation A).

You've also assumed the worst in many of the situations. For example, situation A could lead to an amusing anecdote related to a concert put on by the artist or an interesting little factoid, perhaps a recommendation. Similarly, situation B need not descend into an argument, it could simply be left alone, or perhaps be diverted into a conversation about music you both enjoy.

Furthermore, this can also be a helpful opening line to meet someone new. Either you get situation A and therefore have a common interest, situation B and have at least stirred up conversation, or situation C or D, in which case you've not really lost anything (though if situation D occurs, perhaps you have a point).

As well as those points, you're also assuming an equal probability of each response. Situation D is rarer that A, B or E and hopefully less likely than C too. And, as previously discussed, the situations where you get responses are generally more favourable.

As such, I think the question is actually pretty harmless, and as with certain gaseous passings, better out than in!

 

[BoxCutter]

I do not like Lil Wayne or mainstream rap, at all. And I hate metal, pretty much all metal.