Getting raped is like getting a flat tire. Also, it's God's will. Fancy that.

[Jodah]

I like how very few people bothered to read the article. If you did you would realize he is saying insurance should be available in case of rape. You know, hope for the best but prepare for the worst? IE you have a spare tire in your car for when one goes flat. Yes his comment was a bit low brow but that doesn't deserve the lynching hes getting.

 

[conflictofinterests]

Wow ... just wow ... I've always had a very deep dark place in my heart for my hatred of rape, I've never been raped, but I think rape of any degree is the most disgusting criminal act ever.
This man, or rather, thing, is chauvanistic and nothing short of fucking sick. I hope for the sake of Kansas women that this doesn't get taken seriously by any law officials.

Crane said God "has the ability to take difficult, tragic, horrific circumstances and then turn them into wonderful examples." <<<<< This got me fuming, he has the nerve to objectify women who have been mentally and emotionally scarred as 'examples of a bad thing happening', that is just WRONG! He's using his childish and gullable religious views to make women who have been raped seem like just another statistic that we have to be careful of.

Well FUCK. THEM. The problem isn't the women who are rape victims who should be taken care of, it's the actual RAPISTS who need to be dealt with. THEY are the ones who should be made examples of so that NOBODY ELSE RAPES.

FUCK THIS GOT ME ANNOYED.

Rape is a terrible thing, and everyone is against rapists, the difference in opinion, from where I'm standing, is the rights and leeway due to rape victims.

 

[Dfskelleton]

I live here in Kansas, and I can honestly say: "What in the living hell is wrong with this idiot?"
Okay, first of all... you know what, there is no first of all. I can't think of anything to say about this. I'm serious.
Let me just say something that I hope you all understand, and you should understand anyways: We're not all like this idiot.
Also people, these religious flame wars are really getting stupid. Yes, I know it's pretty much inevitable. I just wish this would stop getting brought up here. This is, after all, a site about video games.
One more thing: Anyone who tries to back up their claims by saying that it is the will of God must think that we Christians will instantly believe anything if it has the name of God on it in sparkly rainbow letters.

 

[Enkidu88]

Anyone agreeing with these assholes ever tried to actually collect what they're owed from an insurance company? I got hit by a drunk driver last year, luckily he only rear ended me and I only ended up with some minor bruises and a cracked rib. But when it came time for the insurance company to cover my losses? They made jump through so many damn hoops it was ridiculous, and one point even tried to make it look like it was partially my fault (apparently being on the road at 11pm makes you culpable for any damage you get from drunk drivers). They eventually paid, but it took several weeks of repeating my story verbatim to dozens of people.

Now imagine a rape victim having to do that? Reliving the experience constantly just to placate some asshole on the other end whose job it is to deny you an abortion (and that's exactly what these religious nutjobs will do), would you really want to go through that or put some innocent girl through that?

 

[saphirekosmos]

You know I was going to bed. Then I read this article. Dear god how can these scumbags say this s@#t? Have they no decency or empathy at all? What kind of person do you have to be to make some of these claims? And to think some people wonder why I have little to no faith in humanity. >__>

 

[conflictofinterests]

Anyone agreeing with these assholes ever tried to actually collect what they're owed from an insurance company? I got hit by a drunk driver last year, luckily he only rear ended me and I only ended up with some minor bruises and a cracked rib. But when it came time for the insurance company to cover my losses? They made jump through so many damn hoops it was ridiculous, and one point even tried to make it look like it was partially my fault (apparently being on the road at 11pm makes you culpable for any damage you get from drunk drivers). They eventually paid, but it took several weeks of repeating my story verbatim to dozens of people.

Now imagine a rape victim having to do that? Reliving the experience constantly just to placate some asshole on the other end whose job it is to deny you an abortion (and that's exactly what these religious nutjobs will do), would you really want to go through that or put some innocent girl through that?

Jesus, that just got me to thinking about what they have to go through in court proceedings too. They'd effectively have to go through the process of being earnestly accused of perpetrating their own rape TWICE.

 

[Torrasque]

I stopped taking American politics seriously shortly after taking interest in them...
Honestly, if these are the kinds of people that are being elected to represent the "Proud and the Free", then I am seriously disappoint.

 

[Wilko316]

Wow ... just wow ... I've always had a very deep dark place in my heart for my hatred of rape, I've never been raped, but I think rape of any degree is the most disgusting criminal act ever.
This man, or rather, thing, is chauvanistic and nothing short of fucking sick. I hope for the sake of Kansas women that this doesn't get taken seriously by any law officials.

Crane said God "has the ability to take difficult, tragic, horrific circumstances and then turn them into wonderful examples." <<<<< This got me fuming, he has the nerve to objectify women who have been mentally and emotionally scarred as 'examples of a bad thing happening', that is just WRONG! He's using his childish and gullable religious views to make women who have been raped seem like just another statistic that we have to be careful of.

Well FUCK. THEM. The problem isn't the women who are rape victims who should be taken care of, it's the actual RAPISTS who need to be dealt with. THEY are the ones who should be made examples of so that NOBODY ELSE RAPES.

FUCK THIS GOT ME ANNOYED.

Rape is a terrible thing, and everyone is against rapists, the difference in opinion, from where I'm standing, is the rights and leeway due to rape victims.

Okay, you're right, perhaps I skipped the actual point a little, my bad, blind with fury and all that. Yeah, I think on the off chance that a woman does get raped there should be some return for them, I was just annoyed at the points given. But yes I agree there should be some kind of 'rape insurance' or something.

 

[Tentickles]

Very rarely do I have a jaw dropping moment, but as I read that article the effects of gravity on my jaw became overpowering.

I can't believe someone has the fucking gall to say that.

I hope his wife cheats on him and he's forced to raise another man's baby. Then when his "son" turns 18 she tells him its some other dudes kid and she dumps his ass.
All after the messy divorce, where in she is granted 1/2 of his stuff and his house.

 

[ToAsTy McBuTTeR]

To quote Epicurus...

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"

That kind of applies to all monotheistic religions. :x

And what I am taking from this is yet another reason for my extreme anti-theism. I hate religion in all its forms. Gods will my arse. Fucking knobjockey.

See above! Also, nice OC VG Cats avatar.

This ignores the Doctrine of Free Will though. God has given Man the power to choose to the good or the evil; ie: he didn't create robots to blindly follow him because that would have defeated the purpose of creating them in the first place. It also ignores the fallen nature of Man, which would explain where evil comes from.

I don't want to start a religious war over this though (I'm a Roman Catholic btw).

Giving man the choice to commit evil falls under 'He is not willing to prevent evil' Since...you know...he would have given permission to commit it by saying 'Do whatever.' (And thus not preventing it.)

there was an article i read... i cannot remember where... and i am an atheist who respects logical people who choose to have faith... but in this article... more a short story really... a man has a conversation with god, by the end of it the man comes to the realization that good and evil are words, and what makes an action "good" or "evil" is defined by man, and further man was not given free will, but free will is a consequence of being a sentient creature. god controls everything but to unmake free will would be to unmake man as a whole... thus he prevents evil through the actions of good men who choose to be good via their own free will...

i am still unconvinced of religion, but i have yet to hear something more moving.

 

[conflictofinterests]

I stopped taking American politics seriously shortly after taking interest in them...
Honestly, if these are the kinds of people that are being elected to represent the "Proud and the Free", then I am seriously disappoint.

"The Proud and the Free" doesn't imply "The Thoughtful and Intelligent" anywhere in that.

Basically, anyone who says the magic words "Abortion is bad" gets the conservative vote, if there isn't someone else running who says it more appealingly, even if they never actually do anything remotely concerning abortion while in office.

 

[AstylahAthrys]

Well, that is, um, wrong on quite a few levels. As a woman who has been sexually assaulted, I can guarantee that it's not quite that trivial. At all. I'm really quite bothered by this statement, and I really hope that this becomes bigger news and this guy has to make up for what he said. I'd rather him be getting the scorn of America than that Weiner guy. I shouldn't have to take birth control because there is a small chance I could be raped, and not have the options to help overcome obstacles should I be raped while not on the pill. I'm no fan of abortion by any means, but if a young girl/lady becomes pregnant from rape, she should have the option.

Sexual assault of any kind, to any gender, is serious business. I don't like anyone trying to make it seem like it's no big deal. Just because many people can get over it and move on in their lives doesn't make it less awful.

 

[Double A]

He's saying rape is as unexpected as a flat tire, not as inevitable as one.

Of course, that doesn't alter the fact that he's coming across as a colossal dick. I'm not even bringing my ethics into this, he is simply being an asshole.

On a somewhat related issue, why should people who get pregnant because of incest get abortions for free? Obviously, it was their choice to bone their cousin (or even brother). If it wasn't, it was rape. Incest by choice is consensual sex, and last time I checked, that is entirely legal.

 

[conflictofinterests]

He's saying rape is as unexpected as a flat tire, not as inevitable as one.

Of course, that doesn't alter the fact that he's coming across as a colossal dick. I'm not even bringing my ethics into this, he is simply being an asshole.

On a somewhat related issue, why should people who get pregnant because of incest get abortions for free? Obviously, it was their choice to bone their cousin (or even brother). If it wasn't, it was rape. Incest by choice is consensual sex, and last time I checked, that is entirely legal.

I think, depending on the state and the gene-proximity, it's illegal. Though I do think the intended meaning is incestual rape, and if not perhaps is in relation to the increased potential for birth defects arising out of an incestuous pregnancy.

 

[Aerduin]

Lets hope he never gets dragged into a back alley on a dark and stormy night..

Is he a fundamentalist ? Chances are God hates him slightly more than other people do, if so ..

 

[Sikachu]

If God (and by God you mean the Christian God)is all-good, how could something evil be his will? Regardless of your opinions on Christianity, that just isn't logical.

Except of course you accept that God as 'omnipotent' and 'omniscient' (which Christian mythology certainly does) in which case suddenly everything is undeniably at his will and mercy because it would have been in his power to change it. The view becomes rather more logical when you think about it for a minute or two.


OT: Err sensationalist faux-outrage much? Not to mention deliberate misunderstanding of the point made. The man was making the point that rape, like flat tires, is something that is outside one's control, and as such needs to be a risk that one plans for. It then decides to completely misconstruct the life insurance point. To then suggest that this is "nothing more than an extension of the chauvinistic blame-the-victim mentality" is disingenuous to the point of wilful deception. Is it my fault that one of my tires goes flat?

All that said, the proposals are repgunant. The things that article and this thread chose to focus on though? Misguided and hyperbolic.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

Some bible-thumping moron in a backward red-state says something retarded.

Nothing exciting or new.

Loads of anti-religion/anti-american flamebait.

Whatever.