"Girl Gamers"

[Kiju]

Female gamers are awesome, and tend to be some of the best players out there.

End of story.

 

[haaxist]

And it's fair not to have any female-oriented content?

how can you condone obliterating the rights of the minority for the pleasure of the majority?

I didn't say its fair or not to have female content O-o; I think I may of gotten lost in translation somewhere because I was in support for 'Girl Gamers'. O-o.

I really don't feel comfortable with being 'attacked' for any reason at all because I spend my life helping people so yeah.. =/ All I want to say is I'm in support of female orientated content aslong as it's intended and balanced.

Plz dun fight meh ._.

I'm sorry. You're right, it probably got lost in translation. Sorry if I came across as a huge ass or something. I'm just tired of guys assuming that because I'm a girl I don't like blood and gore or shooting games, and that I can't be good at them. ANd I'm sick of games that throw us something that isn't even geared towards us, like letting us unlock outfits that show an increasing amount of skin. Seriously, I don't really want to see my characters boobs jiggling all over the place. Once again, you're right. But I really don't think that all female characters are thrown in just because female gamers are complaining. Sheva in RE5 was there from the beginning, they probably just changed her design a little bit to make up for the racism talk. I mean, they can't get away from the RE4 script too much, can they?

Once again, I apologize if I was over the top or rude.

 

[Fallen_Hitokiri]

I hate to criticise what is technically my own kind, being a girl who is fairly into games and all, but this is really getting to me.

First of all, your status as a gamer is not defined by what is between your legs so you are not a "girl gamer", you are a gamer just like everyone else who plays games is and always will be.

Secondly, the lack of female-orientated options in games is not because developers are out to get you, they're out to get profits. Any idiot can look at the spectrum of gamers and find that the amount of girls is miniscule, particularly with games like Call of Duty and Halo. Pouring time and resources into designing female characters is a waste. Why re-design something that works perfectly well to account for a pair of breasts and attract a couple more sales? They want to put as much time and money into making the game enjoyable for the majority, not a small minority.

Lastly, quit complaining about guys being "sexist" or whatever on games. You are a female invading what guys have always thought of as being their space, their time. A lot of guys I know keep their real lives seperate from their gaming lives. They have girlfriends and yes, they do find them a little irritating at times, so its relaxing to come onto a game and talk to other guys who may be in a similar situation. A girl invading that time can only make them resentful so obviously they're going to be a bit annoyed. They think of their games as a guy thing and the idea of a girl potentially beating them is not favourable. So yes, they will insult you. Yes, they may say some out of order things but a lot of guys are like that to each other all the time and if you can't handle having to put up with the male mentality, then gtfo games.

Don't bother getting pissy about this, I am stating my opinion. I'm a girl so don't think the basis of this is "sexist", or whatever.

EDIT: is it right/fair for girls to demand more recognition in a male-dominated market at the possible expense of decent gameplay due to resources being channelled from gameplay to remaking character customisation, changing dialogue and voiceovers, etc to suit the possibility for a female lead?
I'm curious to see what other gamers think about this trend among "girl gamers".

Personally ... as a 'girl gamer' I think you're wrong. As if they think the potential of a girl beating them is not favourable and it's not made to be male orientated, girls can like call of duty and halo too, just cause theres guns in it doesnt mean its made for men. And they do make alot of female characters in things, what you on about? If anything it would help sell games to men, well all my gamer friends anyway so its not a sausage fest and hey theres breasts.
And frankly i think the reason there arent many female leads is because most of the time female leads arent liked, well in my case anyway, any game i play i hate the female characters because they are just irritating most of the time, maybe in some games they stereotype women as weak...but how many women do you really know that arent all preppy and are actually strong, and games such as call of duty gears of war etc the reason they have guys as the main character choice etc is because well war or the army is generally male dominated anyway, I myself know no women whos ever been in a battle or a war or ever heard of any, that doesnt mean they dont exist but as a whole its generally more of a male area. And in halo there are female characters, just play odst.

And you are complaining about most games being aimed at guys, well it is a male dominated area...you dont see make up generally aimed at men do you?
and you complain about it, what kind of games would you want 'aimed at girls'?
Its not the games are aimed at guys, its the person you are. You dont like call of duty its because you dont like it not because you are a girl...

Personally Call of Duty rocks!
and i am what you say..a 'girl gamer'

 

[Jirlond]

OP has made more sense than anyone on this topic. Most female gamers are attention hoggers or feminists.

Like you say people should just game for the fun of it and leave all the politics and gender issues at the door.

 

[Azulito]

I'm sorry. You're right, it probably got lost in translation. Sorry if I came across as a huge ass or something. I'm just tired of guys assuming that because I'm a girl I don't like blood and gore or shooting games, and that I can't be good at them. ANd I'm sick of games that throw us something that isn't even geared towards us, like letting us unlock outfits that show an increasing amount of skin. Seriously, I don't really want to see my characters boobs jiggling all over the place. Once again, you're right. But I really don't think that all female characters are thrown in just because female gamers are complaining. Sheva in RE5 was there from the beginning, they probably just changed her design a little bit to make up for the racism talk. I mean, they can't get away from the RE4 script too much, can they?

I like you alot now I fully agree and I wasn't aware that Sheva was actually there for the beginning. I never really played the gamesbut recalled posts about RE5 adding her to stop the racism accusations.

I really agree with you more than you're aware. I'd love to see a game such as Battlefield 2 with female characters. It would really make the game more immersive if it simply had female characters; in full army gear. I have to say that I'm really irritated seeing 'cleavage' (I hate that word, reminds me of a meat cleaver, lol). But it's all about profits to the developer.

I will keep to it though, there needs to be more female orientated character models in all games instead of just male models. x_x

 

[Azulito]

I'd love to see a game such as Battlefield 2 with female characters. It would really make the game more immersive if it simply had female characters; in full army gear.

How exactly would the game become more immersive?

It would be more realistic because there are female soldiers and seeing it a game would make it feel more realistic and I feel that it'd be pretty awesome since it's rare to see female soldier in games (Who aren't support characters). With the female heli pilot in MW1, I was like "WTF, A FEMALE?!?!?! WOT'S ALL 'IS 'EN?!?!" (Sorry for the britishness.).

 

[Eldarion]

I'd love to see a game such as Battlefield 2 with female characters. It would really make the game more immersive if it simply had female characters; in full army gear.

How exactly would the game become more immersive?

It would be more realistic because there are female soldiers and seeing it a game would make it feel more realistic and I feel that it'd be pretty awesome since it's rare to see female soldier in games (Who aren't support characters). With the female heli pilot in MW1, I was like "WTF, A FEMALE?!?!?! WOT'S ALL 'IS 'EN?!?!" (Sorry for the britishness.).

Even though in real life women aren't allowed to be on the front lines or in active combat except as support roles?

Know why you don't see female characters much in shooters? Because realistically there aren't any where the action is.

 

[Azulito]

It would be more realistic because there are female soldiers and seeing it a game would make it feel more realistic and I feel that it'd be pretty awesome since it's rare to see female soldier in games (Who aren't support characters).

There are female soldiers but that doesn't mean they are frontline combat troops. Also, realism and immersion are not the same thing.

With the female heli pilot in MW1, I was like "WTF, A FEMALE?!?!?! WOT'S ALL 'IS 'EN?!?!" (Sorry for the britishness.).

Women can be helicopter pilots in the US military.

Still it'd be nice to see a little reality :3 As for realism and immersion, they go hand in hand. I perfer somewhat realistic military games so if it's not realistic then it doesn't become immersive to me.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

Pssh I wish more girls were serious gamers. I know 1. There are 200-300 people in my grade, and I can only think of 1 girl who is a serious gamer. Wtf?

 

[slopeslider]

Have you not heard of the DS? HAlf of the library is ubisoft's girl titles.

 

[Eldarion]

It would be more realistic because there are female soldiers and seeing it a game would make it feel more realistic and I feel that it'd be pretty awesome since it's rare to see female soldier in games (Who aren't support characters).

There are female soldiers but that doesn't mean they are frontline combat troops. Also, realism and immersion are not the same thing.

With the female heli pilot in MW1, I was like "WTF, A FEMALE?!?!?! WOT'S ALL 'IS 'EN?!?!" (Sorry for the britishness.).

Women can be helicopter pilots in the US military.

Still it'd be nice to see a little reality :3 As for realism and immersion, they go hand in hand. I perfer somewhat realistic military games so if it's not realistic then it doesn't become immersive to me.

I explained this, not seeing women in high risk roles in shooters IS realistic.

 

[Azulito]

I explained this, not seeing women in high risk roles in shooters IS realistic.

I added my posts only a few seconds after yours, ok?

But in certain games it's NOT realistic. I'm thinking mainly of ArmA2, not female pilots, no female medical support, no females at the base even. In reality you're guarenteed to see at least one female at a military base.

 

[ThreeWords]

Um why are you posting here and invading my space and time, this gaming forum is a "guy" thing

Forums aren't a guy thing, that's drinking and fighting.

Yays

Nac mac Feegle anyone?

[sup]Crivens![/sup]

 

[Eldarion]

I explained this, not seeing women in high risk roles in shooters IS realistic.

I added my posts only a few seconds after yours, ok?

But in certain games it's NOT realistic. I'm thinking mainly of ArmA2, not female pilots, no female medical support, no females at the base even. In reality you're guarenteed to see at least one female at a military base.

That is true, but how many shooters have you played that involve being at base long enough to notice the bit parts?

I guess if you have to play a section of the game at base they should at least have a few women doing something.

 

[Azulito]

I explained this, not seeing women in high risk roles in shooters IS realistic.

I added my posts only a few seconds after yours, ok?

But in certain games it's NOT realistic. I'm thinking mainly of ArmA2, not female pilots, no female medical support, no females at the base even. In reality you're guarenteed to see at least one female at a military base.

That is true, but how many shooters have you played that involve being at base long enough to notice the bit parts?

I guess if you have to play a section of the game at base they should at least have a few women doing something.

Lolz. With Arma2 you're usually at base quite alot, even building it xD It focuses on realism too so its one of them things you'd expect (Since it's labelled as a mil-sim) :3.