Girl Stuff: Does it ALL Suck?

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yeah_so_no said:
paypuh said:
yeah_so_no said:
Easy Bake Ovens are awesome, yo. I loved mine as a kid. But Barbie sucks.

As for Food Network, I dunno because I've never watched it, but some of my friends love it. And my mom likes Oprah. And since when is MTV marketed women?

I could ask the same thing and ask why some things aimed for guys suck--like, monster truck rallies, I'm-compensating muscle cars, and Maxim.
Not every guy with a muscle car is trying to compensate, it's just that most guys who need to compensate happen to have one. It ruins it for those of us who like muscle cars because they are fast and look cool.
Noooooooooooooo~~ comment~.

paypuh said:
As far as the MTV thing goes, no self respecting guy would willingly watch the reality drivel they feel so obligated to air. Sorry if you happen to like it, but it's bad television. With shows named "A Shot At Love" and "Girls Next Door", it's very apparent MTV is geared towards women. Even before they stopped playing music videos, it was as well, but that is mainly attributed to the fact that more women buy albums than men. It would be stupid for a company not to market their product to the people who buy it the most.
Wouldn't know, haven't watched MTV in about ten years.

As for "it would be stupid for a company not to market their product to the people who buy it the most," well, women account for 80% or household purchases [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6423213] and 65% of car purchases and 80-90% of big purchases [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/24/MTKTTD8AB.DTL], yet most advertising is geared towards men, and things that are marketed towards women, as this post shows, are ridiculed. Riddle me that.
I do not believe that for a single second. The second link you posted refers to women having influence, which I totally can understand if they couple are married, but women do not control the checkbook in most households. The woman might happen to buy it, but pretty much any big purchase is discussed by both the husband and wife first. NPR can say what they want, but those of us who don't work at a uber-liberal news outlet know better.

Plus, I think it's a commonly known circumstance that women like to shop (usually clothes and shoes), so it's entirely feasible that they also spend most of the money. I didn't read anything in the article about the return rate for those items though. I'm sure it's pretty high.

But this thread isn't about things marketed towards women in general. It's about the type of marketing, which in the case of young girls, is usually pretty pink crap parents tend to buy their daughter because they think anything else will turn her into a lesbian.
 

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Delicious said:
Vagina's are pretty awesome. Point being that girl stuff isn't necessarily bad, just girly.

/thread.
I don't think you understand how this /thread thing works.

On topic, girls will think that stuff is good, it's their opinion, they will obviously have different tastes to you.
 

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-Orgasmatron- said:
Delicious said:
Vagina's are pretty awesome. Point being that girl stuff isn't necessarily bad, just girly.

/thread.
I don't think you understand how this /thread thing works.

On topic, girls will think that stuff is good, it's their opinion, they will obviously have different tastes to you.
My girlfriend likes chainsaws and games and computers and guns! She's awesome! XD
 

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paypuh said:
yeah_so_no said:
Not Good said:
And for that matter, Twilight? That caters exclusively to adolescent females.
So does the JB, and that's for any female
So does The rest of Disney Channel
Eazy Bake Oven
Barbie
Bratz
MTV
TEENick and Noggin
Oprah
Food Network

All of this shit (minus Eazy Bake oven but it's arguable) is mainly market toward females. And don't you go and say "Oh but I'm a guy and I played with that stuff" You don't count, it's who it was Marketed to, not who actually bought it.

I don't know, but is all shit marketed towards girls complete shit? And if that is the case, does that mean that good mass media will be primarily marketed to a more masculine audience? If not, what are some counter-examples?
Easy Bake Ovens are awesome, yo. I loved mine as a kid. But Barbie sucks.

As for Food Network, I dunno because I've never watched it, but some of my friends love it. And my mom likes Oprah. And since when is MTV marketed women?

I could ask the same thing and ask why some things aimed for guys suck--like, monster truck rallies, I'm-compensating muscle cars, and Maxim.
Not every guy with a muscle car is trying to compensate, it's just that most guys who need to compensate happen to have one. It ruins it for those of us who like muscle cars because they are fast and look cool.
Because that doesn't sound suspicious at all. Lol.
 

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Some yaoi is pretty good, since it can get pretty silly (in addition to a very few that are actually pretty good stories). 'Course, when I think that, I immediately have to wonder if women view all the yuri I read and imagine in the same way.
YOU DO NOT READ YURI.

YURI READS YOU.
 

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paypuh said:
NPR can say what they want, but those of us who don't work at a uber-liberal news outlet know better.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that is the exact moment I stopped reading.
 

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Hmm...No. Overgeneralizing does no one any good. There's good and bad in all things really, it's all just a matter of perspective.
 

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yeah_so_no said:
paypuh said:
NPR can say what they want, but those of us who don't work at a uber-liberal news outlet know better.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that is the exact moment I stopped reading.
Why? Because I don't agree with the views your news sources? Okay, if that's how you do things. Would it make you feel better if I bashed Fox News? It's not a problem for me to do that either.
 

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More Fun To Compute said:
Toilet paper advertising is mainly targeted to women, I think, but I think that it is good and admit to using it.
When I read this, I imagined a person going to wipe his/her ass and having to read a coca cola logo on every sheet of paper, or maybe a different company on every sheet.

Please tell me you just meant ads on tv. I'm sure you did and I shouldnt let my imagination out of its cage.
I meant the TV ads but society has indeed declined to the point where there is advertising printed on toilet paper.
 

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Not Good said:
For those of you that have seen Movie Bob's latest review he brings up a valid point: Ever since Disney started shoving Disney Princess stuff down our throats, hasn't it sucked?

And for that matter, Twilight? That caters exclusively to adolescent females.
So does the JB, and that's for any female
So does The rest of Disney Channel
Eazy Bake Oven
Barbie
Bratz
MTV
TEENick and Noggin
Oprah
Food Network

All of this shit (minus Eazy Bake oven but it's arguable) is mainly market toward females. And don't you go and say "Oh but I'm a guy and I played with that stuff" You don't count, it's who it was Marketed to, not who actually bought it.

I don't know, but is all shit marketed towards girls complete shit? And if that is the case, does that mean that good mass media will be primarily marketed to a more masculine audience? If not, what are some counter-examples?
Wait...are you complaining that girly things are marketed towards girls? Or are you complaining that you don't like products that are marketed towards girls? I don't really get what your point is. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that it's complete shit. Well...except for Oprah...
 

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ShredHead said:
paypuh said:
yeah_so_no said:
Not Good said:
And for that matter, Twilight? That caters exclusively to adolescent females.
So does the JB, and that's for any female
So does The rest of Disney Channel
Eazy Bake Oven
Barbie
Bratz
MTV
TEENick and Noggin
Oprah
Food Network

All of this shit (minus Eazy Bake oven but it's arguable) is mainly market toward females. And don't you go and say "Oh but I'm a guy and I played with that stuff" You don't count, it's who it was Marketed to, not who actually bought it.

I don't know, but is all shit marketed towards girls complete shit? And if that is the case, does that mean that good mass media will be primarily marketed to a more masculine audience? If not, what are some counter-examples?
Easy Bake Ovens are awesome, yo. I loved mine as a kid. But Barbie sucks.

As for Food Network, I dunno because I've never watched it, but some of my friends love it. And my mom likes Oprah. And since when is MTV marketed women?

I could ask the same thing and ask why some things aimed for guys suck--like, monster truck rallies, I'm-compensating muscle cars, and Maxim.
Not every guy with a muscle car is trying to compensate, it's just that most guys who need to compensate happen to have one. It ruins it for those of us who like muscle cars because they are fast and look cool.
Because that doesn't sound suspicious at all. Lol.
It's too bad I don't own a muscle car, otherwise it might hold true. :S
 

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Altorin said:
If it's targetted to Adolescent females, then it's not for you, so you don't have to watch it. I wouldn't even HEAR about Twilight if it weren't for a bunch of people who aren't even in its target demographic complaining about it...
...Who were forced to go by those in it's target demographic.


You forgot Imagine... series games (excluding Imagine Babies! That shitz0rz RAWKED? and if you didn't catch the sarcasm in that, you must be a complete tool).
 

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paypuh said:
traceur_ said:
avykins said:
Well what is marketed to boys that is any good?
Transformers.
That's a matter of opinion.

CoziestPigeon said:
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CoziestPigeon said:
NO. Transformers?! Mighty Max?! Creepy Crawlers?! LEGO!? That shit did NOT suck!
I've never seen an episode of/play with a Transformers.

...I dunno what Mighty Max is.
Or Creepy Crawlers.

LEGOs were neat though.

But I did say most.

QQ lez read moar lolz
(just kidding)
You...
Don't know...
Wh-...Guh
Your poor childhood. Go, google these things. NOW. You owe it to yourself.
He was born in 1992. You can't expect him to know/care about the stuff we grew up with.
JERK! I know what that stuff is and I was born in '93.
 

Low Key

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Lexodus said:
paypuh said:
traceur_ said:
avykins said:
Well what is marketed to boys that is any good?
Transformers.
That's a matter of opinion.

CoziestPigeon said:
MaxTheReaper said:
CoziestPigeon said:
NO. Transformers?! Mighty Max?! Creepy Crawlers?! LEGO!? That shit did NOT suck!
I've never seen an episode of/play with a Transformers.

...I dunno what Mighty Max is.
Or Creepy Crawlers.

LEGOs were neat though.

But I did say most.

QQ lez read moar lolz
(just kidding)
You...
Don't know...
Wh-...Guh
Your poor childhood. Go, google these things. NOW. You owe it to yourself.
He was born in 1992. You can't expect him to know/care about the stuff we grew up with.
JERK! I know what that stuff is and I was born in '93.
Sucks for you. :p
 

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paypuh said:
I believe some of the stuff marketed towards adolescent girls gives them the mentality that it's okay to be a snooty ***** because they are a princess or that boys like girls with an attitude.

Where is the "Nurturing Mother" Barbie? Or the "Career Woman" Barbie? Maybe if it wasn't all princesses and dolls called "Bratz" (I hate people who are brats), then there would be more well adjusted girls and not the psycho chicks I meet on a daily basis.

Everything else is water under the bridge for me. If a company wants to market their product to left handed lepors with daddy issues, then that is their business. If I was going to nitpick one aspect of marketing, then I'd need to do it for everything, and I don't want to do that because I enjoyed playing with my GI Joes as a kid.
This statement sir, is epic awesomeness. You win this thread.
 

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onew said:
I think the marketing of toys to children is horrible in general. It forces traditional gender roles on both boys and girls equally.
I dont think the world is ready yet for Baby Born commercials starring little boys.