Girls and the games aimed at men

[Kiutu]

Really, just allow more games more customizing. Why can't Call of Duty online do what Rainbow Six: Vegas 1 and 2 allow? Make your onw character to play as, male or female. 2 even lets you play the campaign as your created female character.

 

[Fizzlewinks]

They're are no women in Modern Warfare 2 because Infinity Ward knew no one would enjoy a level in which you buy shoes, apply make up and make dinner.

Now that I've got that sarcastic comment out of the way, I see you what you mean, but I don't see the need to change anything. I'm surprised you encounter another female even once a week. For me, it's usually once a month. The fact is that in the videogame demographic, women are a very small percentage. In the FPS demographic, they're percentage is even smaller. Companies such as Infinity Ward know this and realize that if they put in the extra work to make a Female character for online play, would it really make a difference? They'd only be appeasing less than 10% of their audience.

It just doesn't make sense for videogame companies, whose main demographic is men, to cater to women.

Forgive me for my initial comment, was in good spirit.

 

[Destal]

Women are certainly allowed to join the military, however they are still not allowed into combat jobs in the US.

I don't know why everyone thinks this. Women are involved in combat in the US military.

Let me do some google-ing.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/05/policy-on-women.html

Oh, that's why. Official policy IS to keep most women away from direct combat, but they still end up facing it. As the article says, policy is divorced from reality. I knew I'd heard of women in combat!

Woman aren't even allowed to join certain combat arms units, though they still get deployed if their unit goes. Once in country, if you get shot at, you sure as hell are going to shoot back. The vast majority of females in the military are either in the medical field or admin.

 

[Dahni]

i dont know if this has been said already but to be honest, i don't want games to cater for me.
look at games that are aimed at girls. they're shit. i dont care if I cant give my character a female voice, or a pair of tits and hips. I won't want a game any more than normal if they give me that ability. I only care about the weapons and the actual gameplay, not the character customisation. I don't want a character, a title or an emblem on CoD that shows that i'm a girl. It doesnt interest me one bit.

 

[funguy2121]

Or gunners. Or flying helicopters into enemy territory and getting their ass shot off. It's true that they aren't Navy SEALS, but they do encounter combat, and plenty of it. It's inevitable in a guerilla hornet's nest such as Afghanistan or Iraq.

 

[Slayer_2]

Except there wouldn't be any "hazing." I have never seen such a thing in any of the MMORPGs I've played or in Left 4 Dead. People don't give a shit what your character looks like.

Then you're clearly a liar. Or you're a troll. The second option is more likely, seeing as how no-one here seems to agree with your ridiculous opinions.

 

[funguy2121]

Hey slayer, you should talk to Kermit

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

@ ZippyDSMLee : "LOL you're ignorant" is possibly one of the worst arguments I've seen on the web in a while. Were you even responding to me, I have no idea what glorifying beauty had to do with my post content.

media in general glorifies female beauty that it effects almost EVERYTHING they do....this includes games,comics,music,film,ect,ect,ect ad nauseum

Prove it.

Dude...media is based on glorification/ sensationalism /tantalization both genders are held to high and silly extremes of supposed beauty and perfection, with that said its obvious that females are still held to extremes.

If you want proof every time you watch a film or video or advertisement every time there is a pretty,young female in it that is in part the proof, as pretty sells, though it might as well be pseudo-sexism these days but I think its more based on there's more ugly people and ugly people like to watch pretty people so if anything its an ugly world out there .

 

[CerealKiller]

Hey slayer, you should talk to Kermit

What in earth?Aren't you allready done?

You're even calling for backup now?


You're pathetic...


And don't say that you didn't mean me.

 

[mstickle]

~snip~

I'm not going to make the usual, hackneyed, arguments about how men are the target audience, women don't usually play games, and of course that there are no women on the interwebs.

Instead, I'm going to focus solely on military games and say this: the treatment of women as being (essentially) men is completely accurate. Female soldiers, sailors, and airmen "man" battleships, are one of the boys, and are occasionally exhorted to drop their cocks and grab their socks. They live the same lives as the men, and expect to be given the same treatment (for better or worse). They're told to man up, called ladies as a pejorative, and exist in a system where masculinity is of primary importance.

And, of course, they can all kill me with one hand tied behind their backs. They're more of a man than I am, truth be told. But, my point is this:

In terms of military games, it makes sense to treat even female players as though they're "male", or (rather) to make the games unisexual in the same way the modern military is: manliness is considered an ideal, rather than a gender. You're playing a simulation of being in the military, I buy that if you were a girl in the military, you would still be treated as a man. You wouldn't get girly outfits or modifications, ect.

Who wants girly outfits? Seriously? Is that what you think this is about? I'm talking about same clothes different gender.

 

[funguy2121]

Hey slayer, you should talk to Kermit

What in earth?Aren't you allready done?

You're even calling for backup now?


You're pathetic...


And don't say that you didn't mean me.

But I DIDN'T mean you }.

If you read his post, you would see that he was engaging in the exact same emotional, melodramatic "you're a liar! A troll! A hypocrite!" shenanigans as you. But I will shut up allready.

 

[CerealKiller]

Hey slayer, you should talk to Kermit

What in earth?Aren't you allready done?

You're even calling for backup now?


You're pathetic...


And don't say that you didn't mean me.

But I DIDN'T mean you }.

If you read his post, you would see that he was engaging in the exact same emotional, melodramatic "you're a liar! A troll! A hypocrite!" shenanigans as you. But I will shut up allready.

But i did prove that they weren't "shenanigans",didn't...? 0:3
Yes,you'll "shut up allready" just to either reply to me or mention me in 10-20 minutes. lol

 

[funguy2121]

~snip~

I'm not going to make the usual, hackneyed, arguments about how men are the target audience, women don't usually play games, and of course that there are no women on the interwebs.

Instead, I'm going to focus solely on military games and say this: the treatment of women as being (essentially) men is completely accurate. Female soldiers, sailors, and airmen "man" battleships, are one of the boys, and are occasionally exhorted to drop their cocks and grab their socks. They live the same lives as the men, and expect to be given the same treatment (for better or worse). They're told to man up, called ladies as a pejorative, and exist in a system where masculinity is of primary importance.

And, of course, they can all kill me with one hand tied behind their backs. They're more of a man than I am, truth be told. But, my point is this:

In terms of military games, it makes sense to treat even female players as though they're "male", or (rather) to make the games unisexual in the same way the modern military is: manliness is considered an ideal, rather than a gender. You're playing a simulation of being in the military, I buy that if you were a girl in the military, you would still be treated as a man. You wouldn't get girly outfits or modifications, ect.

Who wants girly outfits? Seriously? Is that what you think this is about? I'm talking about same clothes different gender.

I personally would want to see Hello Kitty BDU's, but that's just 'cos I think it would be funny.

Really, there's no excuse for video games in 2009 not to have built-in shit like the mii support for wii games (except not as lame looking)

 

[funguy2121]

I'm not sure what ?...0:3 means, so I really can't address that. I may well say hi to you again in 10-20 minutes, and undoubtedly at that point I will L O L.

 

[CerealKiller]

I'm not sure what ?...0:3 means, so I really can't address that. I may well say hi to you again in 10-20 minutes, and undoubtedly at that point I will L O L.

...because you like being annoying.Yeah,i did notice it.

 

[justhereforthemoney]

I say yay to pink shotguns and rocket launchers.

 

[funguy2121]

As for the term "Alpha Male":

The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature at least partly because of my book "The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species," written in 1968, published in 1970, republished in paperback in 1981, and currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it. Although most of the book's info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years then in all of previous history.

One of the outdated pieces of information is the concept of the alpha wolf. "Alpha" implies competing with others and becoming top dog by winning a contest or battle. However, most wolves who lead packs achieved their position simply by mating and producing pups, which then became their pack. In other words they are merely breeders, or parents, and that's all we call them today, the "breeding male," "breeding female," or "male parent," "female parent," or the "adult male" or "adult female." In the rare packs that include more than one breeding animal, the "dominant breeder" can be called that, and any breeding daughter can be called a "subordinate breeder."
http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2009/08/no_more_alpha_male.php

Alpha, alpha male and alpha dog are colloquialisms. Their usage in normal conversation has outlasted scientific observations of animals.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

~snip~

I'm not going to make the usual, hackneyed, arguments about how men are the target audience, women don't usually play games, and of course that there are no women on the interwebs.

Instead, I'm going to focus solely on military games and say this: the treatment of women as being (essentially) men is completely accurate. Female soldiers, sailors, and airmen "man" battleships, are one of the boys, and are occasionally exhorted to drop their cocks and grab their socks. They live the same lives as the men, and expect to be given the same treatment (for better or worse). They're told to man up, called ladies as a pejorative, and exist in a system where masculinity is of primary importance.

And, of course, they can all kill me with one hand tied behind their backs. They're more of a man than I am, truth be told. But, my point is this:

In terms of military games, it makes sense to treat even female players as though they're "male", or (rather) to make the games unisexual in the same way the modern military is: manliness is considered an ideal, rather than a gender. You're playing a simulation of being in the military, I buy that if you were a girl in the military, you would still be treated as a man. You wouldn't get girly outfits or modifications, ect.

Who wants girly outfits? Seriously? Is that what you think this is about? I'm talking about same clothes different gender.

Sadly that's the first thing people think when they think make something more "girl friendly" its like mentioning Halo peoples mind stop working they don;t care the first game in the series was well crafted and the rest suck they either like beating people up online or they do not....

 

[funguy2121]

I'm not sure what ?...0:3 means, so I really can't address that. I may well say hi to you again in 10-20 minutes, and undoubtedly at that point I will L O L.

...because you like being annoying.Yeah,i did notice it.

Would you like to be friends?