Global Warming-a figment of our imagination

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lostclause

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Mimsofthedawg said:
lostclause said:
@ hey look
Meteors have hit the earth hundreds of times, they wiped out the dinosaurs and one hit siberia in the early 20th century with the force of the bomb dropped on hiroshima.
Actually, it was a comet.

http://news.aol.com/article/clouds-offer-clue-to-century-old-mystery/546797

haha, I'm more saying this because I'm sort of like "wtf? who cares! it's a giant rock from space the smacks into the earth... how's this important?"
I bow to superior geological knowledge. How do they differ? Comets have a tail is about all I know.
 

DeadlyYellow

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Melting of the polar ice caps which drops the tempatures of the Atlantic Current causing global tempatures to also drop and bring on another ice age.
Close. The diluting of seawater will disrupt the currents (which rely on water density from temperature fluctuations as well as salinity, which provides heat to the northern part of Europe, among other places.
 

LewsTherin

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Global Warming is happening. The effects of global warming, the extent of which those effects will affect the planet, and the causes of global wrming are currently a topic of *ahem* heated debate.
 

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demmalition1 said:
Lazier Than Thou said:
Seems kind of arrogant to believe that we puny insects can cause such massive changes on such a large blue marble.
So...
Insects could do this?
http://www.visualpharm.com/wallpaper/earth_at_the_night_1280x1024.jpg
Epic fail

Also, what's the downside to stooping climate change?
Would be beautiful if you could see the cloud cover, which was "amazingly" not there.
 

LCP

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Global warming is happening, its always been happening in cycles and it will happen again. Natural process fellas.
 

Ham Blitz

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I at first completely believed in Global warming, but then in 9th grade I did a project that I had to cover both sides of an argument in a non-bias way, and I got global warming. There was a lot of research which included some charts that appeared to show that this pattern is natural, though each time it seemed to get a bit warmer on the increases. Those, and the whole thing about finding icecaps on Mars have started to sway me towards the side of saying that it might not be a human caused problem.
 

Lazier Than Thou

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demmalition1 said:
Lazier Than Thou said:
Seems kind of arrogant to believe that we puny insects can cause such massive changes on such a large blue marble.
So...
Insects could do this?
http://www.visualpharm.com/wallpaper/earth_at_the_night_1280x1024.jpg
Epic fail

Also, what's the downside to stooping climate change?
Somebody's never heard of a firefly!

I'm joking, of course. About the firefly thing, not the arrogance. It's funny how all these people talk about the northern pole ice melting, but fail to mention that the southern pole is reporting record increases in ice. Maybe Global Warming isn't what we think it is. Maybe Global Warming is just natures way of redistributing the ice.

Or maybe it's sun spots. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Na, probably them aliens driving their SUVs on Mars.

Edit:

I see your picture of earth at night and raise you a sun spot. http://www.hposoft.com/Astro/Solar/Sun_and_earth.jpg
 

Hey_look_a_cat

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May I just remind people of Global Cooling,
Myth #7
Is helping the environment a good thing? Hell yeah

should we put a halt to productivity because of it? Hell no.

People if I could just remind you that the earth experienced a mini Ice age (not human related) and is now coming back from it.
Myth #26 [http://www.skepticalscience.com/coming-out-of-ice-age.htm]

Scientists have sent satellites into space to measure how much the ACTUAL temperature changed, not even worth a cough at.
Myth #35 [http://www.skepticalscience.com/satellite-measurements-warming-troposphere.htm]

Surface temperature has gone yes because of cars and movement and technology (blah blah blah) but not because it's affecting the earth.

It's called friction and enough of that creates heat.

On a 90 degree day, the city will be a whole lot hotter than an open plain.
Myth #19 [http://www.skepticalscience.com/urban-heat-island-effect.htm]

Imagine a room.

now imagine your in the room and one by one more people come into the room

The rooms overall temperature will not change but it will sure feel like it.

The earths temperature was a whole lot hotter before the industrial revolution.
Myth #2 [http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm]

The Hocky stick theory is more like the boomerang
Myth #24 [http://www.skepticalscience.com/broken-hockey-stick.htm]

and Al gore is an idiot, but we all know that all ready
Myth #11 [http://www.skepticalscience.com/al-gore-inconvenient-truth-errors.htm]

http://think.mtv.com/044FDFFFF00E176D300170098F5B7/

watch this video for facts against global warming
The whole freakin' page of myths. [http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php]

Finally I'm just saying stop hyping up the news, the news emphasizes bad, that's what it does, it doesn't speak the truth for there is no truth, there's the view of the time.

Listen to your textbooks if you want but just keep in mind this, textbooks once said the world was flat and you could survive a nuclear bomb if you hid under a desk :)
Ah, so you suggest that everybody develop everything from first principles, or should we only trust the texts that you like?

also to whoever said we're insects I couldn't say it better myself. We're nothing compared to the earth. Read the opening to the Jurasic Park book, and that is signally the greatest way to describe how much we affect the earth
Just like a raindrop is nothing compared to New Orleans, right? Try thinking in large numbers.

Credit where credit is due, however, I normally don't see such a large collection of the lower ranked myths in one place.

However, might I suggest that in future when you do your "research" you perhaps follow your own advice and go further than the nearest link on the internet. Try digging into the actual data that's present in the scientific journals The site I've linked you to here has enough citations that can get you started in some real research.

Hey friend let me just say this, we listen to what facts we want to hear, now the real thing is your "what science says" thing copes with the trends of the times. Science said the world was flat, science said We spontaneously appeared, science said God placed us hear

SCIENCE SAID MANY THINGS!!!!

doesn't mean their true, THEY ARE THEORIES, liable to change at the drop of a dime. Don't argue this point, there is no such thing as fact. Btw i have looked into alot more than you think. and I have judged based on what I've read and watched that global warming is not occurring.
Honestly believe what you want read what you want. I won't stop you also the likelyhood you watched that entire video already is next to none, so take MY advice and look it up to you might surprise yourself.
I'm leaving now thanks for the kicks. I enjoyed laughing at this threads anger build up
 

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Ham Blitz said:
I at first completely believed in Global warming, but then in 9th grade I did a project that I had to cover both sides of an argument in a non-bias way, and I got global warming. There was a lot of research which included some charts that appeared to show that this pattern is natural, though each time it seemed to get a bit warmer on the increases. Those, and the whole thing about finding icecaps on Mars have started to sway me towards the side of saying that it might not be a human caused problem.
I don't understand the ice caps on mars bit. Please explain.
 

Unstoppable Wall

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Nuh Uh! Al Gore says it exists!

Now in all seriousness, Global Warming is something that does exist but it doesn't exist in the same way. You may be asking yourself, "What the fuck is this guy talking about?!", well that's very simple see, It does exist because yes the Earth's temperature is rising you cannot deny that but it has been rising for a long long time now, it's just that people have found that they can get recognition for saying stuff about it. And there's where the term comes from. As I said yes the Earth is getting hotter BUT the winters are also getting longer and colder if you notice, the Earth naturally goes through a cycle every X amount of years and we are due for a part of that cycle, this happened a long time ago, the earth got really really hot, then it cooled down...fast, that was the last Ice Age, thing is, we've been due for another for a while now. So yeah it is getting hotter but it's part of a cycle so let it go already. In a way you're right, but it does exist in the same, just try to keep an open mind on things and don't kill what little faith in humanity I have left K?

Peace, War, Love, Hate, Chaos, and Greed
-Unstoppable Wall
 

Ham Blitz

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lostclause said:
Ham Blitz said:
I at first completely believed in Global warming, but then in 9th grade I did a project that I had to cover both sides of an argument in a non-bias way, and I got global warming. There was a lot of research which included some charts that appeared to show that this pattern is natural, though each time it seemed to get a bit warmer on the increases. Those, and the whole thing about finding icecaps on Mars have started to sway me towards the side of saying that it might not be a human caused problem.
I don't understand the ice caps on mars bit. Please explain.
Yea, I probably should of explained that. Well, here it is:
The original graphs I saw had pattern of a times of global cooling then warming. The temperatures basically would go between the extremes of warm and cold in and a graph basically resembling drawings of mountains. The Mars part comes in because there were various photos of Mars, showing how over the years ice caps have gradually started to dissappear on the northern part of Mars (Or at least the top of the picture). What this starts to signal is that temperatures on Mars are starting to reach an extreme of warm that hasn't been seen, or at least since we started being able to take photos of Mars.
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
I've never believed it... I did like how they changed the name to "climate change" when it started to get cold... This reminds me of the ice age they said would come back in the 70's...
This^
 

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Ham Blitz said:
lostclause said:
Ham Blitz said:
I at first completely believed in Global warming, but then in 9th grade I did a project that I had to cover both sides of an argument in a non-bias way, and I got global warming. There was a lot of research which included some charts that appeared to show that this pattern is natural, though each time it seemed to get a bit warmer on the increases. Those, and the whole thing about finding icecaps on Mars have started to sway me towards the side of saying that it might not be a human caused problem.
I don't understand the ice caps on mars bit. Please explain.
Yea, I probably should of explained that. Well, here it is:
The original graphs I saw had pattern of a times of global cooling then warming. The temperatures basically would go between the extremes of warm and cold in and a graph basically resembling drawings of mountains. The Mars part comes in because there were various photos of Mars, showing how over the years ice caps have gradually started to form on the northern part of Mars (Or at least the top of the picture). What this starts to signal is that temperatures on Mars are starting to reach an extreme of cold that hasn't been seen, or at least since we started being able to take photos of Mars.
He means this,
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html