Global Warming-a figment of our imagination

[101194]

Ughh, I guess we are thining the ozone layer, Doesn't really mean shit we are allready fucked, We are heading into a Period of Cold and Scarcitiy of food, Called an Ice Age, I think hurricanes and tidal waves sound better then fucking fourteen miles of ice, Fuck the polar bears, Start polluting and get this global warming working!

 

[Nerotharis]

I don't know something about fart gas.

 

[ChocoFace]

Ive come to the conclusion that global warming doesnt exist, its the natural cycle of earth ever since the cavemen created the fire and the wheel we were bound for the world to get hotter. BRING IT ON SUN, I DON'T NEED AN OZONE LAYER!

EDIT:let the flameing begin!(pun intended)

Yeah, away with you Trolly McTrollson.
Global warming exists. To deny it is the same as denying the sky is blue. Just look at many ice core records. Not to mention, it's pretty much definite that it is an anthropogenic change (C14 Isotope increase) to CO2 levels, which almost certainly play a part in global warming (See Mauna Loa and ice cores).
Want something to debate about:
What will the effects of global warming be?

I'm thinking no more Gulf Stream, a rise in sea levels, millions dead, bla bla bla.

And yes, global warming is very real.

 

[101194]

you do realize the ozone layer protects from the sun? are you too busy watching fox news?

Uhmmm, What your talking about is Magnetosphere, That stops around 90% of the radiation, The Ozone layer forms under the Magnetospheric line(upper atmosphere) and only protects you from Ultraviolet light, That causes cancer, If we didn't have an ozone our planet would still be fucked, But it can regenerate the Ozone though plants that can produce oxygen and Ozone in the depths under the water though a process called Chemosynthesis, If you loose your Magnetosphere your fucked, Your planet dies, And ends up like Mars. Its still possible to survive without a Sheet of Ozone to protect, But I highly doubt CO2 and CH4 can remove our Ozone layer in the next twenty years, The scientific data doesn't work with Global warming, But doesn't mean we can't continue research, I mean, We might be wrong, And its usually bad to be wrong about life.

 

[Labyrinth]

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EDIT:let the flameing begin!(pun intended)

This is a bad idea to include in a post.

 

[the1ultimate]

One volcanic eruption puts more carbon dioxide into the air than all of human industry combined so far.
Termites are a major source of methane which far worse a 'greenhouse' gas than carbon dioxide, yes no one seems to care about dealing with these sources?

Yes the earth is warming up slightly, however we only have records for the past 100 years or so. In a lifetime of several hundred million (unless your a fundamentalist christian i guess!) trying to judge how an impact over even a thousand years would effect things and beleiving we can understand the causes is incredibly naive imo.

Also just like to add, although we should move away from fossil fuels, moving to 'renewable' energy sources ins't always the answer. People act like you can take energy from the wind without it affecting it. What we can get energy for free now?
The only 'renewable' energy we could possibly harness without then having to worry about knock on effects due to energy conservation would be solar from a space placed satellite.

Trying To get energy back, from a space-based satellite, now that would be the fun part. I suppose you could fly it like a kite Benjamin Franklin style... But back to the point.

Are you implying that by placing a solar panel on the ground we are stealing energy that the ground desperately needs? Okay, well then, we should cut down more forests because trees also absorb energy before it reaches the ground. Also forests make good wind breaks, so I guess we'd be hitting two birds with the one stone.
Are you going to say that people should stop building houses because they are reflecting sunlight wastefully into space? Well that could be solved by putting solar panels on their roofs.

My point is this: Yes, according to the law of conservation of energy we can't take energy from anywhere without using it (aka you can't have your cake and eat it too), but we won't impact on nature in any new way or to any new extreme degree.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Ive come to the conclusion that global warming doesnt exist, its the natural cycle of earth ever since the cavemen created the fire and the wheel we were bound for the world to get hotter. BRING IT ON SUN, I DON'T NEED AN OZONE LAYER!

EDIT:let the flameing begin!(pun intended)

What you just said is true as the earth does go through hot and cold cycles from the way it is with various factors but we can determine the temperature from ice in the icecaps and we are most definitely experiences an out of the ordinary heating amount so yes global warming does exist it's not like the Boogie man or Fairys.

 

[HuntrRose]

@ hey look
Nukes nearly did destroy the earth, anyone who has heard of the cuban missile crisis knows that. Meteors have hit the earth hundreds of times, they wiped out the dinosaurs and one hit siberia in the early 20th century with the force of the bomb dropped on hiroshima.
Yes the earth did cool in the 1650's because the sun's activity decreased. It's not increasing now.
Also the hiding under your desk thing was a placebo during the cold war.

Nukes: Yes but it didn't that's a point I'm making we really were in no danger because both sides knew if they pushed the button they were screwed

Meteors: I'm talking recently, I have calculated that there have been hundreds of time meteors were SUPPOSED to hit the earth but they didn't

Sun: and it is increasing

Desk: and that's the point it was known as FACT back then in schools.

Desk: Would save you from falling debris casued by the shockwave hitting the building. So at a certain distance from the blast center it could actually save your life. Besides, hiding under the desk/table/whatever stops you from looking at the blast, and avoiding blindness.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Uh, you're not very good at trolling?

Seriously, global warming's just a buzz word for a process that occurs anyway.
However, that process was relatively inactive for about 2000 years, allowing humanity to thrive like we have, now our technological "progress" has reactivated the process (noted for wiping out the Mayans a few times) and it should be noted that this process is unkind to stable and comfortable way of life most of us are accustomed to.

Enjoy your igloos!

 

[Ignignokt]

The real problem is that we're trying to enact laws based on science that is obviously not settled yet. If it was settled, everyone here would agree.

 

[Mackinator]

Frankly, I don't care - if it is - we've set the wheels in motion for doom.
If it isn't - then it will all just go to some other theory - Scientists don't have enough to research these days...

 

[PPSh-41]

The real problem is that we're trying to enact laws based on science that is obviously not settled yet. If it was settled, everyone here would agree.

Never doubt the ability of people to debate the facts.

 

[Lordmarkus]

Sure, there is proof for both of theories but I wouldn't spend it all on natural causes. Honestly, this Global warning paranoia is pretty good for the planet because it speeds up the development on other energysources other than oil and carbon.

 

[Scythos]

I could go into conspiracy theory mode but just no... though it does annoy me in the GCSE's I just took there was a question on EVERY single paper I took about global warming.

And in other news the government is in the process of making another greater 'Green' tax, which they hope to pass by 2015. When everyone who took there GCSE's and had it rammed down they're throat will be 22...and able to pay said tax.

I get taught evolution and religious beliefs on creation so there is a balance. I don't on the other hand get taught about the eliptical orbit that brings the earth slightly closer to the sun every 3000 years (approx). There used to be vineyards in London.

 

[Queen Michael]

The real problem is that we're trying to enact laws based on science that is obviously not settled yet. If it was settled, everyone here would agree.

No. It it was settled, everyone here who had bothered to learn about it before they spoke their mind would agree.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

Great you think that, I think it's bullshit too (that we're the cause, I mean), but I don't start a meaningless thread over it.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Great you think that, I think it's bullshit too (that we're the cause, I mean), but I don't start a meaningless thread over it.

Carbon's the cause, we just reactivated it, is all...

 

[Rickyvantof]

Bad troll.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Great you think that, I think it's bullshit too (that we're the cause, I mean), but I don't start a meaningless thread over it.

Carbon's the cause, we just reactivated it, is all...

Indeed, it's a simple fact that we increased carbon's parts per million in the air. We're not talking about absolute amounts of carbon, but about concentrations of carbon. We increased that concentration. A lot, actually. We just set a completely normal natural proces in motion once again, as has happened plenty of times before in the history of the earth. Maybe it's not the sole cause, so many things work in conjunction in this universe, but that doesn't matter anymore.

Does that mean everything is fine? No ofcourse not. If any, a lot of enviromentalists are living in some dream world: we can stop global warming, we can those cuddly polar bears! Idiots. We live on a dynamic planet, human kind grew up in a rare, stable time and because humans rarely see the larger picture we apperantly think that the situation we're in now is normal. It's not.

Yes we're probably the start of this all, but that doesn't mean we can (compare it with a cat who can climb in a tree, but can't come down) or should stop it from happening. Instead we should focus on preparing to live in on a changed planet. But we don't, nooo we put all our energy in stupid little things like Earth Day and are still convinced we can stop all this. And that's why a lot of humans will be fucked. Sure we rich Westren people will largely be able to cope with a changing planet, but will Bangladesh be able to? We might be fine, but just wait untill we see millions and millions of climate refugees knocking at our doorsteps.

It doesn't frakking matter what's the ultimate cause, the consequences are still coming while we are squabbeling whereither we're the cause or not. We still don't realise how incredibly fragile we are as a species. We'll learn our lesson though, probably a very painfull lesson.