QFT.Xrysthos said:
..... which is exactly the same arguement used against 'man made global warming'.... I'm not implying anything you have stated, mearly coaxing someone into responded as you did to try and make them see the same arguement [but we won't impact on nature in any new way or to any new extreme degree] for things such as carbon dioxide and methane. There are far bigger producers of those gases in nature than mankind.the1ultimate said:
sir learn more before going against me. I'm not going to argue anymore because i will just waste my time, people who believe so strongly in this will not listen to information from the other side. I can't give a damn, I believe that the earth being drastically affected by humans is a bunch of arrogant bullshit. Can we form life on our axis, No. I highly doubt half of you get any information from anywhere but your textbooks and teachers. I'm just saying theories have been proven wrong many times before. This isn't what is happening, it is a theory of what MIGHT be happening.Danny Ocean said:As do statistics without given sources.Hey_look_a_cat said:
What's your point? It could still kill millions.
This is just wrong on so many levels. For a satellite to detect temperature on earth, it must have to use infra-red radiation, right? How is it going to do that when all the crap in the way is absorbing it?!
If anything, satellites may even see a temperature drop!
Even so, you only need a temperature change of about, what was it, 3 degrees? To kill everything. Not because the animals can't deal with it, but because the plants have a tendency to die. Everything relies on plants in the end.
This doesn't even make sense.
Yes it will.
When before the industrial revolution? That's a whole load of time in which the Earth changed tremendously.
*cough*
Find me a textbook that says the world was flat and that you could survive a nuke by hiding under a desk.Listen to your textbooks if you want but just keep in mind this, textbooks once said the world was flat and you could survive a nuclear bomb if you hid under a desk
Insects? Insects are the single most successful species on this planet! They are the single biggest cause of death for all other species, their numbers are the highest, and they destroy millions of acres of plant life every year.
Damn right we're like insects.
That's why I said relatively inactive, because for the most part, it didn't really do much.... then.RRilef said:
O wait, it's not! The correlation between the sun's activity and a rise in temperature stops around 1970-1980, something like that if I remember correctly. You watched The Global Warming Swindle didn't you? Yea, they toyed with data too, just like Al Gore did. Godsdamnit Al Gore, you fucked up the climate change debate with your populistic bullshit.Nigh Invulnerable said:
Are you serious, or just being sarcastic? If you're serious: damn you're closed minded. You beleive that humans don't have any big impact on this planet? O you must be joking. Ignoring climate change for a while, have you ever heard of deforestation? Or desertification?Hey_look_a_cat said:
I recall reading that the main reason human activity does seem to have any kind of impact on the climate is because of people in third world countries who have no options for generating warmth via electricity so they cut down trees and burn wood. Between the lost trees that could have helped absorb CO2 and the increase of pollutants from burning we have seen a little bit of change. However, I do not think that humanity will ever truly destroy the planet. Nuclear weapons? Something will survive and repopulate the Earth. It might be bacteria or fungus, but life will go on.Assassinator said:
Deforestation could very much be one of the human things that turbo-charged climate change, o yes. Ofcourse, when we talk about deforestation, it's way more than just cutting down some wood for firewood. Huge swats of rainforest are being cut down every year. We really do a lot of things, we've increased the concentration of CO2 and other greenhouse gasses in earth's atmosphere (and fact is, the increase in concentration is the only known constant with the rise in temperature, so it's most likely that we humans have turbo-charged that warning), we deforest massive amounts of land, we polute our oceans and lakes, we cause a lot of desertification. We change a lot, really a lot. But as you say, ofcourse we won't destroy the planet. We can't destroy the planet, we can only change the planet and destroy ourselfs. In an endurance battle, we will loose big time. If we keep going like we're doing now, we will die. After we are gone, the earth will still be there and it will change again like it did so many times in the past.Nigh Invulnerable said:
Assassinator said:
Have I ever said anything close to saying that humans are "all powerfull"? No I haven't, read my response to Nigh Invurnerable. Don't spout nonsense about me, thank you very much.Hey_look_a_cat said:
well actually the ozone layer does play a part in the earth warming up as it gets thicker it stops more infra red waves getting back into space so they bounce around and heat up the earth moreZombie_Fish said:
But the thing about the ozone layer is that it isn't building up (Or at least not as much as the other gases). The ozone layer has actually been depleted due to chlorofluorocarbons being released into the air and then reacting with ozone. It's other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere that are building up majorly and causing problems.dark_taint92 said:
