God of War Team "Pulling Back" From Violence Against Women

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Treblaine

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Clearing the Eye said:
Yawn. Can someone wake me when the feminism fad dies down again?
Pro tip: this is not "feminism" this is plain old White-affluent Conservatism.

Look at Anita Sarkeesian's lavish apartment, for a GRADUATE, she's part of "The 1%" totally out of touch with reality, raised in isolation with a narrow and unchallenged ideology of how women should cover up and that female sexuality is inherently just "bad".

But conservatives are self aware, they know after all the Jimi Hendrix songs that being conservative is bad, you can't object to women being sexual as a conservative, but if you say the EXACT SAME THING but claim to be a feminist, suddenly you get instant facile street cred.

This is not a "no true scotsman" fallacy. It DEFIES the definition of feminism to so vehemently object to women's inclusion and sexual freedom and fits exactly with what Conservative values are.

Call a spade a spade.
 

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Could've sworn there was context to most of the killing of main characters in God of War.
He broke the old lady's (Hera) because not 15 minutes before she sent Hercules to smash your face in with a legion of undead
 

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Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
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Windknight said:
1337mokro said:
Seriously? Your games have treated women like sex puppets sitting on beds waiting for men to bonk em.

Please don't tell me that suddenly you're all up for feminism. Because that's the wrong way to go. Long as you don't sexualize the violence against women, which until now you haven't done (you have used women for nothing but sex), it's all right.
I looked up the 'door stopper' sequences mentioned in the main article, and an old critical miss. The gameplay leading up to it involves, apart from hacking and slashing your way through monsters, roughly pushing and pulling a topless woman around the level. (the gameplay seemed to give several closeups of her chest so the guys could totally ogle her naked tits if they wished to) So, yeah, she was pretty much sexualised as a weak, frightened and naked woman being manhandled by a powerful, burly guy, and is 'used' in a clearly fatal manner.
I forgot about that scene, to be honest I forgot about most of what happened in 3. I stand corrected. Stop sexualizing the women you brutalize dear developers.

To be honest though GoW is basically the least mature game I can imagine so them drawing the line after 3 games of misogyny is kinda weird. You'd think they'd go the Saints Row way of more insane to pander to their demographic.

Well enjoy women used purely for sex then, guess they aren't far enough in their mental development to step away from that.
So where is the misogyny in those games? Kratos uses people and their bodies as props all the time in those games, and if they hated women they would treat all women in those games with contempt and yet they don't.

You really shouldn't throw around that accusation so quickly.
Except when women exist in those games as nothing but sex objects or doorstops. The men are at least formidable enemies. Anything femaleish that fights you is sort of not exactly a human woman or is dispatched rather easily example in case Hera, whose fight consists of a maze and snapping her neck.

I know you like the game and that's why you defend anyone who says anything bad about it. But guess what. Liking something that has flaws and bad sides doesn't matter.

I like the games to, doesn't stop me from seeing that it's treatment of women is less noble than that of men. Painting every single woman in the game as either a health container, an achievement, an object of lust or patheticly weak.
Because Kratos never uses men as objects to solve puzzles. Oh wait Jason called and said that's wrong.

And you're leaving out Athena, Gaia, Pandora (she's a child and needed to be rescued but she can dodge enemies) and the sisters of fate. Edit: Oh and Hades' wife, who's name escapes me (she was the final boss in one game).

I'm not just defending the games because I like them, I'm defending them because you're full of shit.

Oh and I can play that game too.

See you're just trying desperately to find misogyny in everything around you so that you can pretend you're more enlightened than the people who made them but that doesn't matter.
Yeah I consider the sisters of fate as much female as I consider the Gorgons female, Gaia falls in the same category. They are mythical creatures. By that stretch the zombie corpses you fight in one of the games could have been females. Equal representation? Not really.

Athena gets stabbed, I don't think you ever actually face off, Pandora never actually played any other role than a mcguffin. Persephone is the one female Boss out there and of course like I already said non-human creatures don't count. So 1 female boss in 4 games.

Tell me what happened with Aphrodite? The goddess that loved Mars, you know the dude you killed? Oh yeah she was a sex minigame in GoW3. I don't see how that means women are used as nothing more than sex objects most of the time. Not to mention 90% of all women portrayed wear skimpy to almost no clothing at all.

Even so there are no actual female characters in there that don't act as doorstops, mcguffins or sex objects.

If you want to play the See game then let's play.

See you think that pointing out that a game in fact does have 1 female boss means that it somehow negates the fact that the game dresses women with as little clothing as possible whenever it can and has you bonk or mutilate them on other occasions.

See that one female boss, which was just a boss, not an actual character doesn't negate the rest of the game. It's not a scale. If you treat women with respect through the entire game and have 1 chapter where you do nothing but parade them around as objects of lust then I am still calling the game on that.

See you here just don't like my opinion, that is fine you can do so. Instead you mistake your opinion as objective fact when it is no more valid than mine.
 

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I just want a game where I can straight up punch some medevial milkmaid in the fucking face and not worry about being called sexist.
Why do I want to punch a milkmaid in the face? I fucking hate milkmaids.
 

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Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Windknight said:
1337mokro said:
Seriously? Your games have treated women like sex puppets sitting on beds waiting for men to bonk em.

Please don't tell me that suddenly you're all up for feminism. Because that's the wrong way to go. Long as you don't sexualize the violence against women, which until now you haven't done (you have used women for nothing but sex), it's all right.
I looked up the 'door stopper' sequences mentioned in the main article, and an old critical miss. The gameplay leading up to it involves, apart from hacking and slashing your way through monsters, roughly pushing and pulling a topless woman around the level. (the gameplay seemed to give several closeups of her chest so the guys could totally ogle her naked tits if they wished to) So, yeah, she was pretty much sexualised as a weak, frightened and naked woman being manhandled by a powerful, burly guy, and is 'used' in a clearly fatal manner.
I forgot about that scene, to be honest I forgot about most of what happened in 3. I stand corrected. Stop sexualizing the women you brutalize dear developers.

To be honest though GoW is basically the least mature game I can imagine so them drawing the line after 3 games of misogyny is kinda weird. You'd think they'd go the Saints Row way of more insane to pander to their demographic.

Well enjoy women used purely for sex then, guess they aren't far enough in their mental development to step away from that.
So where is the misogyny in those games? Kratos uses people and their bodies as props all the time in those games, and if they hated women they would treat all women in those games with contempt and yet they don't.

You really shouldn't throw around that accusation so quickly.
Except when women exist in those games as nothing but sex objects or doorstops. The men are at least formidable enemies. Anything femaleish that fights you is sort of not exactly a human woman or is dispatched rather easily example in case Hera, whose fight consists of a maze and snapping her neck.

I know you like the game and that's why you defend anyone who says anything bad about it. But guess what. Liking something that has flaws and bad sides doesn't matter.

I like the games to, doesn't stop me from seeing that it's treatment of women is less noble than that of men. Painting every single woman in the game as either a health container, an achievement, an object of lust or patheticly weak.
Because Kratos never uses men as objects to solve puzzles. Oh wait Jason called and said that's wrong.

And you're leaving out Athena, Gaia, Pandora (she's a child and needed to be rescued but she can dodge enemies) and the sisters of fate. Edit: Oh and Hades' wife, who's name escapes me (she was the final boss in one game).

I'm not just defending the games because I like them, I'm defending them because you're full of shit.

Oh and I can play that game too.

See you're just trying desperately to find misogyny in everything around you so that you can pretend you're more enlightened than the people who made them but that doesn't matter.
Yeah I consider the sisters of fate as much female as I consider the Gorgons female, Gaia falls in the same category. They are mythical creatures. By that stretch the zombie corpses you fight in one of the games could have been females. Equal representation? Not really.

Athena gets stabbed, I don't think you ever actually face off, Pandora never actually played any other role than a mcguffin. Persephone is the one female Boss out there and of course like I already said non-human creatures don't count. So 1 female boss in 4 games.
And now you're just making rules up as you go along. Gods don't count? Well that means Kratos doesn't count as human for parts of 1 and 2 and for all of Ghost of Sparta. It also means you never fight a man until the second game.


Athena, Gaia, Persephone, Pandora and the Sisters of Fate all act and look human even though they aren't (with the exception of one of the sisters). So they may as well be counted as females for our purposes. And your whole complaint that you never face Athena is a case of moving the goalposts.

And Pandora is not just a mcguffin. She talks to Kratos and basically foreshadows the theme of the game if not spelling it out.

1337mokro said:
Tell me what happened with Aphrodite? The goddess that loved Mars, you know the dude you killed?
Mars is not Ares. Also in this version she's wedded to Hephestus (who she doesn't like).

1337mokro said:
Oh yeah she was a sex minigame in GoW3. I don't see how that means women are used as nothing more than sex objects most of the time.
You were just saying that goddesses don't count. You do not get to change the rules whenever it suits you.

1337mokro said:
Not to mention 90% of all women portrayed wear skimpy to almost no clothing at all.
Which is totally unlike Kratos. Anyway I've heard it was the style of ancient Greece, or at least Greek statues.


1337mokro said:
Even so there are no actual female characters in there that don't act as doorstops, mcguffins or sex objects.
Since you said female, I get to bring up Athena, Gaia, etc. again. Yeah they're not human but that's really arbitrary in a game series that focuses on gods and titans so much.

1337mokro said:
See you think that pointing out that a game in fact does have 1 female boss
Sisters of Fate count as female, so does Medusa and her sisters technically. If you only want hum n bosses though then the only man bosses you ever have are Hercules (if he counts), those couple Greek Heroes from God of War 2 (plus that 2D fight with the soldier) and I assume Deimos in Ghost of Sparta (I haven't finished that game yet).

1337mokro said:
means that it somehow negates the fact that the game dresses women with as little clothing as possible whenever it can and has you bonk or mutilate them on other occasions.
Bonking women is not misogyny and you mutilate tons of men in the game, far far more men than women (even going by the no gods rule).
A mythical creature doesn't count because a mythical creature is FANTASY. A normally shaped (except for the roundings) woman that portrays as a god does.

Gaia getting her hand chopped of by Kratos is not misogyny because "She" is an ancient animated pile of rubble and plants powered by a crystal at "her" core. Gorgons are snake people who have only one gender so they must be hermaphroditic. The Sisters are immortal beings from beyond time and space, older than the gods, we don't even know what species they are.

In short Human or Gods which are basically Humans with magic powers in this universe count. Now is having sex with these women who look or are humans wrong? No. Is it wrong for them to exist ONLY to have sex with and apply a power bonus to doing so? Yes.

History lesson Time!

Mars = Ares they are the one and the same. Just different names and some different attributes like Mars also having something to do with agriculture. Also she is married to Hephaestus yes, not just in this universe but in EVERY universe including official literature, the irony however is that Mars or The Artist Formerly Known As Ares is her lover.

In fact multiple stories are focused on their liaisons together behind Hephaestus back. You know a little guy named Eros? Yeah... that's their kid. So if I remember correctly I do think Aphrodite would be very pissed you killed her child's daddy. But what does it matter right? Time for a sex minigame.

I don't need a lecture on Greek and Roman Mythology I studied that shit for nearly 6 years.
 

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Treblaine said:
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I already said non-human creatures don't count.
Yeah, you can't base any argument on such a contrived and self-serving assertion.
Really? Tell me Gorgons are they male or female or both? The sisters of time. Do they have reproductive organs? Are they even in need of having genders or did people just name them sisters because they resemble feminine characteristics of mankind?

How do you sex a giant pile of stones powered by a crystal? The voice? Gaia could just be asexual. How can you tell that the Minotaurs are only males? Could be that there are some females there, I never saw a big dangling cock anywhere so who knows? Maybe the huge muscle mass has the same effect on their udders as it has on human breasts.

You see? If we accept mythical creatures in the mix we don't know what the fuck they are. Half of the enemies you fight COULD be females of their respective species.

So yeah. Self-serving... a bit yes. Any argument is self-serving after all you use them to strengthen your own position. But please do call back to me once you an analysis of the manticore's gender.
 

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1337mokro said:
Doesn't Hephaestus craft some crazy magic net and trap both Ares and Aphrodite while they're doing it and then have all the other gods come and make fun of them? I would have made a magic camera and forced them to do it in front of it while I watched and jerked off. But that's just me.


And yeah, the gorgons are all female. If you studied that shit for six years, you would have known they were cursed by the gods. And so are the Sisters of fate. Which is why they are known as the *SISTERS* of fate, and not the brohiems of fate, or the trannies of fate or whatever you want to throw in there. The manticore is totally a dude though, 'cause have you seen the giant stinger on that dude? Fucking massive.
 

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....I.. What?


..Kratos is a giant psychopath who decapitates and mutilates more people before breakfast then a normal character does all day. All of that is fine, apparantly, but their gonna draw the line when it comes to being nasty to women, can't have that.


Que the video of Professor Farnworth saying "I don't wanna live on this planet anymore."
 

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Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Windknight said:
1337mokro said:
Seriously? Your games have treated women like sex puppets sitting on beds waiting for men to bonk em.

Please don't tell me that suddenly you're all up for feminism. Because that's the wrong way to go. Long as you don't sexualize the violence against women, which until now you haven't done (you have used women for nothing but sex), it's all right.
I looked up the 'door stopper' sequences mentioned in the main article, and an old critical miss. The gameplay leading up to it involves, apart from hacking and slashing your way through monsters, roughly pushing and pulling a topless woman around the level. (the gameplay seemed to give several closeups of her chest so the guys could totally ogle her naked tits if they wished to) So, yeah, she was pretty much sexualised as a weak, frightened and naked woman being manhandled by a powerful, burly guy, and is 'used' in a clearly fatal manner.
I forgot about that scene, to be honest I forgot about most of what happened in 3. I stand corrected. Stop sexualizing the women you brutalize dear developers.

To be honest though GoW is basically the least mature game I can imagine so them drawing the line after 3 games of misogyny is kinda weird. You'd think they'd go the Saints Row way of more insane to pander to their demographic.

Well enjoy women used purely for sex then, guess they aren't far enough in their mental development to step away from that.
So where is the misogyny in those games? Kratos uses people and their bodies as props all the time in those games, and if they hated women they would treat all women in those games with contempt and yet they don't.

You really shouldn't throw around that accusation so quickly.
Except when women exist in those games as nothing but sex objects or doorstops. The men are at least formidable enemies. Anything femaleish that fights you is sort of not exactly a human woman or is dispatched rather easily example in case Hera, whose fight consists of a maze and snapping her neck.

I know you like the game and that's why you defend anyone who says anything bad about it. But guess what. Liking something that has flaws and bad sides doesn't matter.

I like the games to, doesn't stop me from seeing that it's treatment of women is less noble than that of men. Painting every single woman in the game as either a health container, an achievement, an object of lust or patheticly weak.
Because Kratos never uses men as objects to solve puzzles. Oh wait Jason called and said that's wrong.

And you're leaving out Athena, Gaia, Pandora (she's a child and needed to be rescued but she can dodge enemies) and the sisters of fate. Edit: Oh and Hades' wife, who's name escapes me (she was the final boss in one game).

I'm not just defending the games because I like them, I'm defending them because you're full of shit.

Oh and I can play that game too.

See you're just trying desperately to find misogyny in everything around you so that you can pretend you're more enlightened than the people who made them but that doesn't matter.
Yeah I consider the sisters of fate as much female as I consider the Gorgons female, Gaia falls in the same category. They are mythical creatures. By that stretch the zombie corpses you fight in one of the games could have been females. Equal representation? Not really.

Athena gets stabbed, I don't think you ever actually face off, Pandora never actually played any other role than a mcguffin. Persephone is the one female Boss out there and of course like I already said non-human creatures don't count. So 1 female boss in 4 games.
And now you're just making rules up as you go along. Gods don't count? Well that means Kratos doesn't count as human for parts of 1 and 2 and for all of Ghost of Sparta. It also means you never fight a man until the second game.


Athena, Gaia, Persephone, Pandora and the Sisters of Fate all act and look human even though they aren't (with the exception of one of the sisters). So they may as well be counted as females for our purposes. And your whole complaint that you never face Athena is a case of moving the goalposts.

And Pandora is not just a mcguffin. She talks to Kratos and basically foreshadows the theme of the game if not spelling it out.

1337mokro said:
Tell me what happened with Aphrodite? The goddess that loved Mars, you know the dude you killed?
Mars is not Ares. Also in this version she's wedded to Hephestus (who she doesn't like).

1337mokro said:
Oh yeah she was a sex minigame in GoW3. I don't see how that means women are used as nothing more than sex objects most of the time.
You were just saying that goddesses don't count. You do not get to change the rules whenever it suits you.

1337mokro said:
Not to mention 90% of all women portrayed wear skimpy to almost no clothing at all.
Which is totally unlike Kratos. Anyway I've heard it was the style of ancient Greece, or at least Greek statues.


1337mokro said:
Even so there are no actual female characters in there that don't act as doorstops, mcguffins or sex objects.
Since you said female, I get to bring up Athena, Gaia, etc. again. Yeah they're not human but that's really arbitrary in a game series that focuses on gods and titans so much.

1337mokro said:
See you think that pointing out that a game in fact does have 1 female boss
Sisters of Fate count as female, so does Medusa and her sisters technically. If you only want hum n bosses though then the only man bosses you ever have are Hercules (if he counts), those couple Greek Heroes from God of War 2 (plus that 2D fight with the soldier) and I assume Deimos in Ghost of Sparta (I haven't finished that game yet).

1337mokro said:
means that it somehow negates the fact that the game dresses women with as little clothing as possible whenever it can and has you bonk or mutilate them on other occasions.
Bonking women is not misogyny and you mutilate tons of men in the game, far far more men than women (even going by the no gods rule).
A mythical creature doesn't count because a mythical creature is FANTASY. A normally shaped (except for the roundings) woman that portrays as a god does.

Gaia getting her hand chopped of by Kratos is not misogyny because "She" is an ancient animated pile of rubble and plants powered by a crystal at "her" core. Gorgons are snake people who have only one gender so they must be hermaphroditic. The Sisters are immortal beings from beyond time and space, older than the gods, we don't even know what species they are.

In short Human or Gods which are basically Humans with magic powers in this universe count. Now is having sex with these women who look or are humans wrong? No. Is it wrong for them to exist ONLY to have sex with and apply a power bonus to doing so? Yes.

History lesson Time!

Mars = Ares they are the one and the same. Just different names and some different attributes like Mars also having something to do with agriculture. Also she is married to Hephaestus yes, not just in this universe but in EVERY universe including official literature, the irony however is that Mars or The Artist Formerly Known As Ares is her lover.

In fact multiple stories are focused on their liaisons together behind Hephaestus back. You know a little guy named Eros? Yeah... that's their kid. So if I remember correctly I do think Aphrodite would be very pissed you killed her child's daddy. But what does it matter right? Time for a sex minigame.

I don't need a lecture on Greek and Roman Mythology I studied that shit for nearly 6 years.
Ok then we have Athena, and Hades' wife still in the running. Btw that thing in Gaia in the game was her heart.

Edit and why don't the first two sisters count? They look like human women with magical powers.
In reality we only have Persephone.

Athena got stabbed pretty easy and I don't ever remember her actually fighting in any way during the 4 games.

Because those first two sisters are the same entities as the third sister. I think one of them was made entirely of black smoke. We can safely say they are not actually human and more like ancient beings of magic or something.

Even then the only one I would consider on the edge would be the first sister. Who fights with one tit hanging out. I'm sure that is very useful in combat right?
 

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Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Father Time said:
1337mokro said:
Windknight said:
1337mokro said:
Seriously? Your games have treated women like sex puppets sitting on beds waiting for men to bonk em.

Please don't tell me that suddenly you're all up for feminism. Because that's the wrong way to go. Long as you don't sexualize the violence against women, which until now you haven't done (you have used women for nothing but sex), it's all right.
I looked up the 'door stopper' sequences mentioned in the main article, and an old critical miss. The gameplay leading up to it involves, apart from hacking and slashing your way through monsters, roughly pushing and pulling a topless woman around the level. (the gameplay seemed to give several closeups of her chest so the guys could totally ogle her naked tits if they wished to) So, yeah, she was pretty much sexualised as a weak, frightened and naked woman being manhandled by a powerful, burly guy, and is 'used' in a clearly fatal manner.
I forgot about that scene, to be honest I forgot about most of what happened in 3. I stand corrected. Stop sexualizing the women you brutalize dear developers.

To be honest though GoW is basically the least mature game I can imagine so them drawing the line after 3 games of misogyny is kinda weird. You'd think they'd go the Saints Row way of more insane to pander to their demographic.

Well enjoy women used purely for sex then, guess they aren't far enough in their mental development to step away from that.
So where is the misogyny in those games? Kratos uses people and their bodies as props all the time in those games, and if they hated women they would treat all women in those games with contempt and yet they don't.

You really shouldn't throw around that accusation so quickly.
Except when women exist in those games as nothing but sex objects or doorstops. The men are at least formidable enemies. Anything femaleish that fights you is sort of not exactly a human woman or is dispatched rather easily example in case Hera, whose fight consists of a maze and snapping her neck.

I know you like the game and that's why you defend anyone who says anything bad about it. But guess what. Liking something that has flaws and bad sides doesn't matter.

I like the games to, doesn't stop me from seeing that it's treatment of women is less noble than that of men. Painting every single woman in the game as either a health container, an achievement, an object of lust or patheticly weak.
Because Kratos never uses men as objects to solve puzzles. Oh wait Jason called and said that's wrong.

And you're leaving out Athena, Gaia, Pandora (she's a child and needed to be rescued but she can dodge enemies) and the sisters of fate. Edit: Oh and Hades' wife, who's name escapes me (she was the final boss in one game).

I'm not just defending the games because I like them, I'm defending them because you're full of shit.

Oh and I can play that game too.

See you're just trying desperately to find misogyny in everything around you so that you can pretend you're more enlightened than the people who made them but that doesn't matter.
Yeah I consider the sisters of fate as much female as I consider the Gorgons female, Gaia falls in the same category. They are mythical creatures. By that stretch the zombie corpses you fight in one of the games could have been females. Equal representation? Not really.

Athena gets stabbed, I don't think you ever actually face off, Pandora never actually played any other role than a mcguffin. Persephone is the one female Boss out there and of course like I already said non-human creatures don't count. So 1 female boss in 4 games.
And now you're just making rules up as you go along. Gods don't count? Well that means Kratos doesn't count as human for parts of 1 and 2 and for all of Ghost of Sparta. It also means you never fight a man until the second game.


Athena, Gaia, Persephone, Pandora and the Sisters of Fate all act and look human even though they aren't (with the exception of one of the sisters). So they may as well be counted as females for our purposes. And your whole complaint that you never face Athena is a case of moving the goalposts.

And Pandora is not just a mcguffin. She talks to Kratos and basically foreshadows the theme of the game if not spelling it out.

1337mokro said:
Tell me what happened with Aphrodite? The goddess that loved Mars, you know the dude you killed?
Mars is not Ares. Also in this version she's wedded to Hephestus (who she doesn't like).

1337mokro said:
Oh yeah she was a sex minigame in GoW3. I don't see how that means women are used as nothing more than sex objects most of the time.
You were just saying that goddesses don't count. You do not get to change the rules whenever it suits you.

1337mokro said:
Not to mention 90% of all women portrayed wear skimpy to almost no clothing at all.
Which is totally unlike Kratos. Anyway I've heard it was the style of ancient Greece, or at least Greek statues.


1337mokro said:
Even so there are no actual female characters in there that don't act as doorstops, mcguffins or sex objects.
Since you said female, I get to bring up Athena, Gaia, etc. again. Yeah they're not human but that's really arbitrary in a game series that focuses on gods and titans so much.

1337mokro said:
See you think that pointing out that a game in fact does have 1 female boss
Sisters of Fate count as female, so does Medusa and her sisters technically. If you only want hum n bosses though then the only man bosses you ever have are Hercules (if he counts), those couple Greek Heroes from God of War 2 (plus that 2D fight with the soldier) and I assume Deimos in Ghost of Sparta (I haven't finished that game yet).

1337mokro said:
means that it somehow negates the fact that the game dresses women with as little clothing as possible whenever it can and has you bonk or mutilate them on other occasions.
Bonking women is not misogyny and you mutilate tons of men in the game, far far more men than women (even going by the no gods rule).
A mythical creature doesn't count because a mythical creature is FANTASY. A normally shaped (except for the roundings) woman that portrays as a god does.

Gaia getting her hand chopped of by Kratos is not misogyny because "She" is an ancient animated pile of rubble and plants powered by a crystal at "her" core. Gorgons are snake people who have only one gender so they must be hermaphroditic. The Sisters are immortal beings from beyond time and space, older than the gods, we don't even know what species they are.

In short Human or Gods which are basically Humans with magic powers in this universe count. Now is having sex with these women who look or are humans wrong? No. Is it wrong for them to exist ONLY to have sex with and apply a power bonus to doing so? Yes.

History lesson Time!

Mars = Ares they are the one and the same. Just different names and some different attributes like Mars also having something to do with agriculture. Also she is married to Hephaestus yes, not just in this universe but in EVERY universe including official literature, the irony however is that Mars or The Artist Formerly Known As Ares is her lover.

In fact multiple stories are focused on their liaisons together behind Hephaestus back. You know a little guy named Eros? Yeah... that's their kid. So if I remember correctly I do think Aphrodite would be very pissed you killed her child's daddy. But what does it matter right? Time for a sex minigame.

I don't need a lecture on Greek and Roman Mythology I studied that shit for nearly 6 years.
Ok then we have Athena, and Hades' wife still in the running. Btw that thing in Gaia in the game was her heart.

Edit and why don't the first two sisters count? They look like human women with magical powers.
In reality we only have Persephone.

Athena got stabbed pretty easy and I don't ever remember her actually fighting in any way during the 4 games.

Because those first two sisters are the same entities as the third sister. I think one of them was made entirely of black smoke. We can safely say they are not actually human and more like ancient beings of magic or something.

Even then the only one I would consider on the edge would be the first sister. Who fights with one tit hanging out. I'm sure that is very useful in combat right?
Stop moving the goalposts. Athena is a character that plays a huge part in the series, she is not an achievement, she's not supposed to be sexy, the fact that you don't fight her is irrelevant.

Also the sisters of fate usually don't fight people, everyone else there was there to ask for favors not to fight them.
Oh you mean like that, you gotta be a bit clearer when you mention Athena when I'm talking about bosses, I thought you meant her as a boss. But because she isn't being fought against or sexualized you think Athena is a character? There really is no character to speak of there.

Omniscient narrator at best. Other than that there is nothing behind it, they picked Athena because of the Ares-Athena rivalry in the first game where there was an actual story, they could have just as easily gone with Hera and Zeus. Athena just stuck around afterwards, being really redundant.
 

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I can see kinda where they're coming from...men in that day and age would be far, far more likely to be combat trained than women, given that I don't think the armies of the ancient world would have allowed women soldiers. Maybe it isn't so much that Kratos doesn't kill women, but maybe he only kills soldiers, because of some sense of honour? Maybe he just doesn't kill civilians. I don't know, just a thought.
 

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Developer1: So we either beat the shit out of women or coddle them, feminist issue y'know.

Developer2: Or we could treat them just as we would treat the males and thus not be sexist at all.

Developer1: How does that solve anything?

Developer2: ........ forget it...