jerks get chicks but nice guys get relationships. You don't have to act like a pussy, just be funny and ask her out like the first day you meet her or else she'll throw you in the friend zone
good guys finish last
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Then your being too nice to actually ask them out in a good way. You're probably avoid it way too long, and by that point, they don't see you any other way anymore. Just be more to the point, and your problem is solved in that area.masterchevyman said:
Work is a totally different thing though. That depends on the job.
Did I already contribute to this thread, or was it the other 54 similar ones?
My memory fails me sometimes.
Anyway, this coming from an insecure guy who always stays a bit away from groups and never had a girlfriend (not that he didn't want one):
Being nice won't hurt you. I just can't help being somewhat of a jerk (even if I do genuinely care about what other people feel and try to help them), and I always thought that people hate me for this. Well, turns out they don't. Actually, they find this controversial behavior pretty funny. That still didn't get me a girlfriend, but at least I feel much better.
Ahem, got a bit off track. To get a girlfriend, you need to do pretty much what the more serious replies told ya. Honesty, all that stuff. And you certainly don't need to be an asshole. It's actually a bad idea.
My memory fails me sometimes.
Anyway, this coming from an insecure guy who always stays a bit away from groups and never had a girlfriend (not that he didn't want one):
Being nice won't hurt you. I just can't help being somewhat of a jerk (even if I do genuinely care about what other people feel and try to help them), and I always thought that people hate me for this. Well, turns out they don't. Actually, they find this controversial behavior pretty funny. That still didn't get me a girlfriend, but at least I feel much better.
Ahem, got a bit off track. To get a girlfriend, you need to do pretty much what the more serious replies told ya. Honesty, all that stuff. And you certainly don't need to be an asshole. It's actually a bad idea.
Theres being a good guy who is a door mat.
Then theres a good guy with the balls to stand up to stuff and not be used by anyone and to have the balls to just tell people when they are being asshats.
You do this, the users get weeded out and your left with true friends/lovers.
Its just annoying when guys moap about being nice then getting rejected. Being a man dosnt mean "boobs and beer" it means haveing some back bone and respect.
Be a gentleman just dont blur the line between gentleman and a door mat.
Then theres a good guy with the balls to stand up to stuff and not be used by anyone and to have the balls to just tell people when they are being asshats.
You do this, the users get weeded out and your left with true friends/lovers.
Its just annoying when guys moap about being nice then getting rejected. Being a man dosnt mean "boobs and beer" it means haveing some back bone and respect.
Be a gentleman just dont blur the line between gentleman and a door mat.
Im a nice guy ,and most of my friends refer a such.... however i am a GIANT DOORMAT i always cave when ppl try to ask me to help them or do something. and i also have a problem being tooo passive, which my counseler told me in elementary that if i dont "stop" being passive ill freak out at small things becaase previous things that pissed me of will just boil over. and he was right i freaked out once and broke a kids nose in the 5th grade!
now i use video games to vent my rage. lol u should see me when i pay bad company two and im stuck in a rut.holy sht i freak out
now i use video games to vent my rage. lol u should see me when i pay bad company two and im stuck in a rut.holy sht i freak out
It comes down to Jedi can't love but sith have horrible skin.
Really though the good side is aways better even if it's a sinister way of doing it. You just have to be sure when you are trying to be the good guy you stay good calm and non-cowardly. Because the just friends things means ethier your not as good as you think you are or you are a coward but a shoulder to cry on. Life lesson. Good doesn't mean meak.
Really though the good side is aways better even if it's a sinister way of doing it. You just have to be sure when you are trying to be the good guy you stay good calm and non-cowardly. Because the just friends things means ethier your not as good as you think you are or you are a coward but a shoulder to cry on. Life lesson. Good doesn't mean meak.
No, its not that nice guys come last its just people mistakenly believe that because they are a nice guy nice things should happen to them.
And if the reason you avoid doing selfish or bad deeds is just because you think life is going to give you a high five and bring you cookies for being a good person then to use the much overused phrase "you suck at life!"
And if the reason you avoid doing selfish or bad deeds is just because you think life is going to give you a high five and bring you cookies for being a good person then to use the much overused phrase "you suck at life!"
Women don't know what they want in the first place. It's not news. I got into a argument with a girl on this forum pointing out that half of what she wanted totally clash with the other half. She then reply that it's supposed to be our job to be psychic and know what they want on amasterchevyman said:
To ALL WOMEN:
It doesn't work that way. Never was, never will. Get over it.
This is the truth. People may not like it but it's fact. Maybe some of the girls here do prefer nice guys, but I still firmly believe these girls are a small minority. As I say it's simple math; how many girls have you slept with, how many girls has the misogynist school douche slept with? Girls prefer him, now you need to figure out why.Udyrfrykte said:So much sugarcoating and unicorn rides on fluffy marshmallow clouds in this thread.
Change who you are when trying to get a girl hooked. Why? Because your true self atm is probably a pussy or a loser.
Be slightly arrogant, confident, a bit cocky. Don't talk in a asking way, talk in an ordering/decisive way (ofc, do it with some rational thought). Take up boxing, thaiboxing, MMA (for the love of god, not aikido or something silly like that) and get roughed up a bit in sparring there too, increase your masculinity.
Work on your looks. Since you apparently got female friends ask them to give you a makeover (yeah, seriously). Take advantage of that part of your life. Looks aren't everything at all, but it will give you an easier time 'opening' a girl.
Eventually when you get laid more and the girls you wanna get, your confidence will rise, but you will still be a nice guy.
It's somewhat of a snowball effect actually!
There's so much more to write, but there's my point.
Man up. I don't know how many times I've the attraction of girls from my handsome buddies by just being there and being such a hairy chested alpha male that I am.
... Actually, I want to write more:
Here's the difference between nice and pussy:
You are your girlfriend are walking down the street. Some guy squeezes your girlfriends boob.
Pussy: Gets kinda frightened and either just walks on with a "what a douche" to his gf, or barely dares to confront him with a "jerk!" while walking away (or something)
Nice: Does not accept that kinda behaviour. Does something violent or at least confrontive (is that a word?). Asks girlfriend afterwards if everything is all right, takes her home and cuddles her while watching a movie.
Being in the 'friend zone' just means you have the 'feelings' and 'nice guy' thing down, but you're not attractive enough for them to want you. Sad but true.
Nice guys finish last if they're in competition with someone who isn't afraid to be an opportunist and get their hands dirty for a reward. (Which may well be getting their hands dirty in a different way)
Nice guys finish last if they're in competition with someone who isn't afraid to be an opportunist and get their hands dirty for a reward. (Which may well be getting their hands dirty in a different way)
Ahahaa, I see this all the time: girls go for complete jerks, then break up with them because they're a jerk, and find another jerk to go out with. Or they get back with the jerk just to later break up and come back to the two seemingly repeated decisions mentioned prior.Eliam_Dar said:
My brother is a complete asshole who doesn't think of anyone but himself (At all times), girls are all over him. All of them attempt to change him. All of them fail and move onto another jerk to rinse and repeat.
And yes, I've experienced and seen many other friends & friends of friends in real life and online that persistantly do this. Almost seems to me that the girls are into some silent form of BDSM.
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. If you feel angry reading this, then congratulations: you need to take this advice because deep down you know it's true. Peace.Treeinthewoods said:This is the truth. People may not like it but it's fact. Maybe some of the girls here do prefer nice guys, but I still firmly believe these girls are a small minority. As I say it's simple math; how many girls have you slept with (24 but I'm a stud), how many girls has the misogynist school douche slept with? (7 because he's small and hairy) Girls prefer him (actually they don't in my case but y'know), now you need to figure out why.Udyrfrykte said:So much sugarcoating and unicorn rides on fluffy marshmallow clouds in this thread.
Change who you are when trying to get a girl hooked. Why? Because your true self atm is probably a pussy or a loser.
Be slightly arrogant, confident, a bit cocky. Don't talk in a asking way, talk in an ordering/decisive way (ofc, do it with some rational thought). Take up boxing, thaiboxing, MMA (for the love of god, not aikido or something silly like that) and get roughed up a bit in sparring there too, increase your masculinity.
Work on your looks. Since you apparently got female friends ask them to give you a makeover (yeah, seriously). Take advantage of that part of your life. Looks aren't everything at all, but it will give you an easier time 'opening' a girl.
Eventually when you get laid more and the girls you wanna get, your confidence will rise, but you will still be a nice guy.
It's somewhat of a snowball effect actually!
There's so much more to write, but there's my point.
Man up. I don't know how many times I've the attraction of girls from my handsome buddies by just being there and being such a hairy chested alpha male that I am.
... Actually, I want to write more:
Here's the difference between nice and pussy:
You are your girlfriend are walking down the street. Some guy squeezes your girlfriends boob. (Me: does that really happen? Not in Kent, certainly)
Pussy: Gets kinda frightened and either just walks on with a "what a douche
Nice: Does not accept that kinda behaviour. Does something violent or at least confrontive (is that a word?) (Me: confrontational). Asks girlfriend afterwards if everything is all right, takes her home and cuddles her while watching a movie.
This is harsh but kinda true. You can be a nice guy and still have the courage to ask someone out. You just gotta feel that you really can do it. In fact you're being a nice guy by asking them out (if you do it kindly).JanatUrlich said:
Lal dude! im a nice guy and my life is great! im so far from the last place that i can almost kiss the 1st! And im doing great with girls and they all love my "mr. nice" attitude....
So that as others said is just some kind of weird excuse you have for your friend zone problem.....
you may be nice or an asshole...but both ways if you dont know what you are doing....then you are not getting any ^_^
So that as others said is just some kind of weird excuse you have for your friend zone problem.....
you may be nice or an asshole...but both ways if you dont know what you are doing....then you are not getting any ^_^
Nice guys don't always finish last, take it from me! I'm an arsehole AND I'm lonely! A lot of it comes from the fact that I act like a dick to try to cover my obvious insecurities which are still, well, obvious, so they don't get covered by me being a dick!
Ahhh, fun times, fun times.
A lot of it comes from the fact that I act like a dick to try to cover my obvious insecurities which are still, well, obvious, so they don't get covered by me being a dick! Ahhh, fun times, fun times.
I love how this thread has become so routine that we all come to say our prearranged lines despite the OP having no actual discussion value. How has this thread not been locked?
My line in this thread goes as follows:
Not everyone treats everyone the same. Has it ever occurred to you that the jerks are actually nice to girls and just mean to you? Not everyone reacts to situations and events the way you do. How do you think the "jerks" manage to have friends? If they were really that unlikeable, they wouldn't. And as someone else said, women are people. They're just like you and me, lumping them all into one group is ridiculous.
My line in this thread goes as follows:
Not everyone treats everyone the same. Has it ever occurred to you that the jerks are actually nice to girls and just mean to you? Not everyone reacts to situations and events the way you do. How do you think the "jerks" manage to have friends? If they were really that unlikeable, they wouldn't. And as someone else said, women are people. They're just like you and me, lumping them all into one group is ridiculous.