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I don't get why anyone would defend such a horribly written movie. Nothing makes sense in the whole movie. And, I love Synder's movies including Man of Steel and Sucker Punch. But BvS is something I really can't believe exists.Samtemdo8 said:Or Doomsday would have the endurance to remove it before the Kryptonite kills him.Gordon_4 said:Or you know she could have thrown it at Doomsday while Superman distracted him. You know since as someone trained with traditional Ancient Greek arms would surely know how to throw a javelin.Samtemdo8 said:Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.Kenbo Slice said:That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.Samtemdo8 said:Yes he is:Kenbo Slice said:There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.Samtemdo8 said:1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.Bob_McMillan said:One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.Samtemdo8 said:Implying you can't take Tree People:Bob_McMillan said:The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.Samtemdo8 said:Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.Hawki said:So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?![]()
The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.
And talking animals:
Seriously
Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/567ef66439f22bfd05d850ecc1927a90
2. No that is badass/awseome.
This is serious:
Think about it may only pierce the flesh but could not fully penetrate through and he just rips it off, and worse he crushes the spear.
Honestly all these complaints is because of that fact Superman died, when we all know he's coming back to setup Justice League.
I knew this before the movie even came out, I knew this when Doomsday was first revealed.
You are just exaggrating the movie's bad qualities. I have seen this movie 3 times, the 3rd being the Dircetor's Cut.Phoenixmgs said:The trailer was so good, I've probably watched it like 10 times now. Guardians is easily my most anticipated movie. I can't wait to see/hear all the songs on the soundtrack and I hope Gunn finds a great place to use the Bowie song from the cut scene.
I don't get why anyone would defend such a horribly written movie. Nothing makes sense in the whole movie. And, I love Synder's movies including Man of Steel and Sucker Punch. But BvS is something I really can't believe exists.Samtemdo8 said:Or Doomsday would have the endurance to remove it before the Kryptonite kills him.Gordon_4 said:Or you know she could have thrown it at Doomsday while Superman distracted him. You know since as someone trained with traditional Ancient Greek arms would surely know how to throw a javelin.Samtemdo8 said:Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.Kenbo Slice said:That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.Samtemdo8 said:Yes he is:Kenbo Slice said:There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.Samtemdo8 said:1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.Bob_McMillan said:One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.Samtemdo8 said:Implying you can't take Tree People:Bob_McMillan said:The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.Samtemdo8 said:Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.Hawki said:So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?![]()
The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.
And talking animals:
Seriously
Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/567ef66439f22bfd05d850ecc1927a90
2. No that is badass/awseome.
This is serious:
Think about it may only pierce the flesh but could not fully penetrate through and he just rips it off, and worse he crushes the spear.
Honestly all these complaints is because of that fact Superman died, when we all know he's coming back to setup Justice League.
I knew this before the movie even came out, I knew this when Doomsday was first revealed.
$668million doesn't read like under-performing to me, it seems a very respectable return for the character's first foray into film since the dismal Superman Returns. You should have gotten Man of Steel 2.Samtemdo8 said:You are just exaggrating the movie's bad qualities. I have seen this movie 3 times, the 3rd being the Dircetor's Cut.Phoenixmgs said:The trailer was so good, I've probably watched it like 10 times now. Guardians is easily my most anticipated movie. I can't wait to see/hear all the songs on the soundtrack and I hope Gunn finds a great place to use the Bowie song from the cut scene.
I don't get why anyone would defend such a horribly written movie. Nothing makes sense in the whole movie. And, I love Synder's movies including Man of Steel and Sucker Punch. But BvS is something I really can't believe exists.Samtemdo8 said:Or Doomsday would have the endurance to remove it before the Kryptonite kills him.Gordon_4 said:Or you know she could have thrown it at Doomsday while Superman distracted him. You know since as someone trained with traditional Ancient Greek arms would surely know how to throw a javelin.Samtemdo8 said:Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.Kenbo Slice said:That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.Samtemdo8 said:Yes he is:Kenbo Slice said:There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.Samtemdo8 said:1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.Bob_McMillan said:One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.Samtemdo8 said:Implying you can't take Tree People:Bob_McMillan said:The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.Samtemdo8 said:Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.Hawki said:So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?![]()
The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.
And talking animals:
Seriously
Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/567ef66439f22bfd05d850ecc1927a90
2. No that is badass/awseome.
This is serious:
Think about it may only pierce the flesh but could not fully penetrate through and he just rips it off, and worse he crushes the spear.
Honestly all these complaints is because of that fact Superman died, when we all know he's coming back to setup Justice League.
I knew this before the movie even came out, I knew this when Doomsday was first revealed.
I know the movie has flaws, but goddamn this isn't Spiderman One More Day level of awful. I know how awful a Superhero property can get and BvS comes no where near close. But like I said the reason BvS is what it is is becuase of WB.
1. Because WB really wants to make a movie franchise of DC properties fast.
2. Because Man of Steel underperformed so they got cold feet and wanted Batman, Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, and Doomsday, and all the characters to set up future movies. Becasue Batman sells. We could have gotten Man of Steel 2 but no put Batman in there.
Either this or Warner Bros trailers.Samtemdo8 said:At least you can give Video Game Trailers this, they never spoil the end.Silentpony said:Did they just give away the big monster and battle in the trailer? Like that's the shit we're not supposed to see! Show us something besides the epic finale!
But WB was aiming for that movie to be a billion dollar box office smash, because again the Box Office standard that they helped established with the Success of The Dark Knight and the Lord of the Rings films.Gordon_4 said:$668million doesn't read like under-performing to me, it seems a very respectable return for the character's first foray into film since the dismal Superman Returns. You should have gotten Man of Steel 2.Samtemdo8 said:You are just exaggrating the movie's bad qualities. I have seen this movie 3 times, the 3rd being the Dircetor's Cut.Phoenixmgs said:The trailer was so good, I've probably watched it like 10 times now. Guardians is easily my most anticipated movie. I can't wait to see/hear all the songs on the soundtrack and I hope Gunn finds a great place to use the Bowie song from the cut scene.
I don't get why anyone would defend such a horribly written movie. Nothing makes sense in the whole movie. And, I love Synder's movies including Man of Steel and Sucker Punch. But BvS is something I really can't believe exists.Samtemdo8 said:Or Doomsday would have the endurance to remove it before the Kryptonite kills him.Gordon_4 said:Or you know she could have thrown it at Doomsday while Superman distracted him. You know since as someone trained with traditional Ancient Greek arms would surely know how to throw a javelin.Samtemdo8 said:Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.Kenbo Slice said:That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.Samtemdo8 said:Yes he is:Kenbo Slice said:There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.Samtemdo8 said:1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.Bob_McMillan said:One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.Samtemdo8 said:Implying you can't take Tree People:Bob_McMillan said:The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.Samtemdo8 said:Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.Hawki said:So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?![]()
The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.
And talking animals:
Seriously
Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/567ef66439f22bfd05d850ecc1927a90
2. No that is badass/awseome.
This is serious:
Think about it may only pierce the flesh but could not fully penetrate through and he just rips it off, and worse he crushes the spear.
Honestly all these complaints is because of that fact Superman died, when we all know he's coming back to setup Justice League.
I knew this before the movie even came out, I knew this when Doomsday was first revealed.
I know the movie has flaws, but goddamn this isn't Spiderman One More Day level of awful. I know how awful a Superhero property can get and BvS comes no where near close. But like I said the reason BvS is what it is is becuase of WB.
1. Because WB really wants to make a movie franchise of DC properties fast.
2. Because Man of Steel underperformed so they got cold feet and wanted Batman, Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, and Doomsday, and all the characters to set up future movies. Becasue Batman sells. We could have gotten Man of Steel 2 but no put Batman in there.
hermes said:Either this or Warner Bros trailers.Samtemdo8 said:At least you can give Video Game Trailers this, they never spoil the end.Silentpony said:Did they just give away the big monster and battle in the trailer? Like that's the shit we're not supposed to see! Show us something besides the epic finale!
They couldn't avoid showing the big bad in BvS and Suicide Squad, and they spoiled the "twist" of two Terminator movies in a row (the, arguably, only inspired parts of those movies).
Also, I agree that there is very little badassery in looking at a constipated Supes angst sadly through a shaky lens. I would take a dozens "disney-ish" Guardians movies over a single Snyder version of self serious "dark age" comics every day of the week (or, for what is worth, over the current comic version of Guardians)
Not sure he did exaggerate the movie's bad qualities, he said it was poorly written and it fucking was. The Director's cut didn't make it any less of an utter mess it just spent a little bit longer spreading the mess around.You are just exaggrating the movie's bad qualities. I have seen this movie 3 times, the 3rd being the Dircetor's Cut.
Funny, "man-childish decadence" is what I think every time I hear someone defend Batman v Superman or describe it as "edgy"...Samtemdo8 said:Man-childish decadence is what I think of Guardians of the Galaxy.hermes said:Either this or Warner Bros trailers.Samtemdo8 said:At least you can give Video Game Trailers this, they never spoil the end.Silentpony said:Did they just give away the big monster and battle in the trailer? Like that's the shit we're not supposed to see! Show us something besides the epic finale!
They couldn't avoid showing the big bad in BvS and Suicide Squad, and they spoiled the "twist" of two Terminator movies in a row (the, arguably, only inspired parts of those movies).
Also, I agree that there is very little badassery in looking at a constipated Supes angst sadly through a shaky lens. I would take a dozens "disney-ish" Guardians movies over a single Snyder version of self serious "dark age" comics every day of the week (or, for what is worth, over the current comic version of Guardians)
No she wouldn't have. Superman gives her spear, Superman distracts Doomsday, she pokes him with spear and shoves it deep in him, they get away and Doomsday dies. End movie.Samtemdo8 said:Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.Kenbo Slice said:That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.Samtemdo8 said:Yes he is:Kenbo Slice said:There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.Samtemdo8 said:1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.Bob_McMillan said:One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.Samtemdo8 said:Implying you can't take Tree People:Bob_McMillan said:The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.Samtemdo8 said:Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.Hawki said:So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?![]()
The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.
And talking animals:
Seriously
Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/567ef66439f22bfd05d850ecc1927a90
2. No that is badass/awseome.
This is serious:
Have you forgotten that in the movie Wonder Woman had to hold down Doomsday with her Magic Lasso Rope? Leaving Doomsday binded for Superman to do the Killing Stab?Kenbo Slice said:No she wouldn't have. Superman gives her spear, Superman distracts Doomsday, she pokes him with spear and shoves it deep in him, they get away and Doomsday dies. End movie.Samtemdo8 said:Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.Kenbo Slice said:That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.Samtemdo8 said:Yes he is:Kenbo Slice said:There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.Samtemdo8 said:1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.Bob_McMillan said:One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.Samtemdo8 said:Implying you can't take Tree People:Bob_McMillan said:The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.Samtemdo8 said:Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.Hawki said:So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?![]()
The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.
And talking animals:
Seriously
Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/567ef66439f22bfd05d850ecc1927a90
2. No that is badass/awseome.
This is serious:
The film is a textbook example of poor writing, directing, and editing.
Mabye I am not too offended and bothered at the whole Martha bit because it concerns Batman and lately I have had it with Batman in general.Laughing Man said:Not sure he did exaggerate the movie's bad qualities, he said it was poorly written and it fucking was. The Director's cut didn't make it any less of an utter mess it just spent a little bit longer spreading the mess around.You are just exaggrating the movie's bad qualities. I have seen this movie 3 times, the 3rd being the Dircetor's Cut.
'Save Martha'
That's all that needs to be said for that movie, Marvel could get away with something like that because THEY get that Superhero movies are a bit dumb and a bit goofy (and GOG puts that fact front and centre) but you can't spend the entire time making your Superhero franchises devoid of levity and fun and super grim and then have scripting as dumb as 'save Martha'.
There is not one single plot point that makes sense. Like why does Lois investigate a bullet and not the bombing? Why is Lex even using some very ever so slightly different bullets anyways? Why does Lex bomb the Capitol? Why does Lex need help to bring in a krytonite that I'm sure he can just smuggle in quite easily yet gets super easy access to the Kryptonian ship? Literally nothing makes sense. And, I noticed that right away when watching the movie, it's not like I saw some YouTube video like How it Should've Ended or Honest Trailers and was like "oh yeah, that doesn't make sense, this movie now sucks".Samtemdo8 said:You are just exaggrating the movie's bad qualities. I have seen this movie 3 times, the 3rd being the Dircetor's Cut.
I know the movie has flaws, but goddamn this isn't Spiderman One More Day level of awful. I know how awful a Superhero property can get and BvS comes no where near close. But like I said the reason BvS is what it is is becuase of WB.
1. Because WB really wants to make a movie franchise of DC properties fast.
2. Because Man of Steel underperformed so they got cold feet and wanted Batman, Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, and Doomsday, and all the characters to set up future movies. Becasue Batman sells. We could have gotten Man of Steel 2 but no put Batman in there.
What is wrong with the idea of her investigating a bullet? Isn't that evidence on its own? You can trace where the bullets came from these days right?Phoenixmgs said:There is not one single plot point that makes sense. Like why does Lois investigate a bullet and not the bombing? Why is Lex even using some very ever so slightly different bullets anyways? Why does Lex bomb the Capitol? Why does Lex need help to bring in a krytonite that I'm sure he can just smuggle in quite easily yet gets super easy access to the Kryptonian ship? Literally nothing makes sense. And, I noticed that right away when watching the movie, it's not like I saw some YouTube video like How it Should've Ended or Honest Trailers and was like "oh yeah, that doesn't make sense, this movie now sucks".Samtemdo8 said:You are just exaggrating the movie's bad qualities. I have seen this movie 3 times, the 3rd being the Dircetor's Cut.
I know the movie has flaws, but goddamn this isn't Spiderman One More Day level of awful. I know how awful a Superhero property can get and BvS comes no where near close. But like I said the reason BvS is what it is is becuase of WB.
1. Because WB really wants to make a movie franchise of DC properties fast.
2. Because Man of Steel underperformed so they got cold feet and wanted Batman, Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, and Doomsday, and all the characters to set up future movies. Becasue Batman sells. We could have gotten Man of Steel 2 but no put Batman in there.
Because she was at the site of the shooting/massacre and wanted to know who was responsible for it. She was curious about the bullet. She investigated both.Phoenixmgs said:There is not one single plot point that makes sense. Like why does Lois investigate a bullet and not the bombing?
Because he makes more money when people use his products. Maybe the bullet has better armor-penetration qualities than other bullets. He doesn't want to use a competitors product. He felt like it.Why is Lex even using some very ever so slightly different bullets anyways?
To fuck with Superman. To kill the Senator that would not give him what he wanted. To try and turn the public against Superman.Why does Lex bomb the Capitol?
Shipping things into the country legally is far cheaper and easier than smuggling it in. If Kryptonite was legal he could sell his Kryptonite weapons to very rich people/companies. The military guy (can't remember his rank or branch) had less scruples than Senator Finch.Why does Lex need help to bring in a krytonite that I'm sure he can just smuggle in quite easily yet gets super easy access to the Kryptonian ship?
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with investigating the bullet, but that plot point goes literally nowhere and investigating the Capitol bombing could've went somewhere and brought Lex's bad side to public light so there isn't so much freaking hate against Superman and so Supes could get some relief feeling positive at least once in the movie. That whole Africa scene doesn't even need to exist because literally the ONE thing Man of Steel did setup was the fact that very powerful aliens (both bad and good) exist and at least having a conversation about what should happen as it's not nearly that improbable that Superman could switch sides and/or more aliens coming eventually. Not to mention the destruction that occurred to Metropolis and asking the question if Superman should just leave. With what has happened already and what is known, why would you stop Lex bringing in Krytonite when it's very conceivable humans might indeed need it for actual defense purposes and Lex isn't suspected of anything nefarious yet? The movie just follows no logic whatsoever. I was totally psyched to see the movie opening night (being a huge Snyder fan, really liking MoS, and there's fucking Batman too) and I really couldn't believe what I saw.Samtemdo8 said:What is wrong with the idea of her investigating a bullet? Isn't that evidence on its own? You can trace where the bullets came from these days right?
He blows up the Capitol just to fuck with Superman while leaving himself open to be found out?twistedmic said:Because she was at the site of the shooting/massacre and wanted to know who was responsible for it. She was curious about the bullet. She investigated both.
Because he makes more money when people use his products. Maybe the bullet has better armor-penetration qualities than other bullets. He doesn't want to use a competitors product. He felt like it.Why is Lex even using some very ever so slightly different bullets anyways?
To fuck with Superman. To kill the Senator that would not give him what he wanted. To try and turn the public against Superman.Why does Lex bomb the Capitol?
Shipping things into the country legally is far cheaper and easier than smuggling it in. If Kryptonite was legal he could sell his Kryptonite weapons to very rich people/companies. The military guy (can't remember his rank or branch) had less scruples than Senator Finch.Why does Lex need help to bring in a krytonite that I'm sure he can just smuggle in quite easily yet gets super easy access to the Kryptonian ship?
And to eliminate Senator Finch, who didn't let him do whatever he wanted.Phoenixmgs said:He blows up the Capitol just to fuck with Superman while leaving himself open to be found out?
Other than the stated fact that Kryptonite was radioactive, making it similar to shipping uranium or plutonium across country borders.There's no reason krytonite should even be illegal and I doubt Lex cares about paying some extra smuggling money to get something in.
You should check out the works of Garth Ennis, even if you don't enjoy them you'd probably find them fascinating.Samtemdo8 said:hermes said:Either this or Warner Bros trailers.Samtemdo8 said:At least you can give Video Game Trailers this, they never spoil the end.Silentpony said:Did they just give away the big monster and battle in the trailer? Like that's the shit we're not supposed to see! Show us something besides the epic finale!
They couldn't avoid showing the big bad in BvS and Suicide Squad, and they spoiled the "twist" of two Terminator movies in a row (the, arguably, only inspired parts of those movies).
Also, I agree that there is very little badassery in looking at a constipated Supes angst sadly through a shaky lens. I would take a dozens "disney-ish" Guardians movies over a single Snyder version of self serious "dark age" comics every day of the week (or, for what is worth, over the current comic version of Guardians)
Man-childish decadence is what I think of Guardians of the Galaxy.
I rather watch something that is closer to Watchmen than Modern post Renissance, Hanna Montana Disney.