Samtemdo8 said:
Its not that I don't enjoy levity and optimism here or there, its that basically all there is is Levity and Optimism as if no one should experiance tragedy or hardships.
No tragedy or hardships? Starlord's mother dies in front of him, and his last memory of her is refusing to hold her hand (and the guilt that would fester in his heart), before he is abducted by aliens, and basically forced to survive with a group of mercenaries who threatened to eat him every day apparently. According to the guy who raised him, and even if they weren't really going to eat him, using that threat of life on a child would fuck them up seriously. Starlord even comments about that later.
Rocket was a science experiment, repeatedly cut open, limbs severed, and then reattached over and over to perfect his state. He even loses his shit in the movie about how horrific that was for him. Gammora had to serve a person she hated, simply to try and get a chance to kill him, the guy who murdered her family, and, like Starlord, basically press ganged her into serving him against her will. Batista's family was murdered, and he swore his life to avenging them. And when he finally had the chance to get his revenge, he did it by basically betraying his companions, putting all of the galaxy at risk, just for his petty vengeance...a vengeance he didn't even get, because he got his ass kicked by the antagonist. I'm not really seeing how those things are examples of a lack of tragedy and hardships.
Samtemdo8 said:
I did, in the theater. And was unimpressed by the tragic aspects of the charcaters.
Ok you're contradicting yourself now. First, you said there was only Levity and Optimism, and then you say the tragedy and hardship wasn't impressive to you. It's one or the other. You don't think the tragic backstories for the characters were handled well? Fine, that's an opinion, and you can't really argue opinion, though people on this site sure do love to do so on a regular basis. But please don't say that they didn't have tragedy and hardships, because they did. My above post for examples of said tragedy and hardships.
Samtemdo8 said:
But I still can criticize it for how uninspired it is.
Star Lord's Mom has Cancer, that is just easy. That is like the most grade school level writing to gt your symphaties.
Sure, you can say you didn't find it all that inspiring, because that's an opinion. I personally got choked the fuck up at that scene, picturing myself in that situation, and that being my mother. It was one of the things I liked in the movie actually, that they were able to hit me with an effective emotional trigger early on.
As to it being grade school writing? Really? A comic book movie, and you are criticizing them for using a "His parents died when he was young" background? That's like, 99.9% of all hero motivations in comics, hell even outside of that. It's a pretty universal human experience. For most people, they will experience their parents die. It tends to effect people significantly, and can change the way their life progresses going forward.
Samtemdo8 said:
And Groot, oh my goodness Groot the Plagiarizer:
I fail to see what the problem is with the Heroic Sacrifice trope. Iron Giant was hardly the first one to do it, and I'm sure someone could flip your example on it's head, and say that Iron Giant plagarized someone from a previous story. And then someone could do that one with another, and another, and another. Heroic Sacrifice is a common trope in storytelling, has been for centuries, hell thousands of years. Using it isn't a sign of a bad story, it's just a tool. Are you saying it's plagarized simply because they were both voiced by the same actor? Seriously I don't get this criticism at all. Which is again, different from you not liking it.