Guardians of the Galaxy V2 Trailer

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?

Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.

The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.

The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.

Implying you can't take Tree People:


And talking animals:


Seriously

One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.

Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
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1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.


2. No that is badass/awseome.

This is serious:

There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.

Yes he is:

That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.

Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.

No she wouldn't have. Superman gives her spear, Superman distracts Doomsday, she pokes him with spear and shoves it deep in him, they get away and Doomsday dies. End movie.

The film is a textbook example of poor writing, directing, and editing.

Have you forgotten that in the movie Wonder Woman had to hold down Doomsday with her Magic Lasso Rope? Leaving Doomsday binded for Superman to do the Killing Stab?

Because Superman is incapable of distracting him for 30 seconds for her to stab him? That makes no sense.

So your point is that you think Superman should not have died?

Yes. Because it's something they should've waited to do. But they want to have 500 stories in their movies. It thematically makes no sense and everyone knows he's coming back to life so it holds no weight. It was absolutely pointless.

Even if they waited establishing Superman with more movies, they still would have brought him back, it still would have been pointless.

Because there is no stakes in Superhero movies, the good guys always win, unless they pull a Game of Thrones, or worse make a movie that resets/reboots the universe like how Comics do it.

But waiting to do it would've made sense, because as it stands we barely know this character so we have no feelings for him. I mean, I guess it's kind of hard to feel for a mopey moron who spends the whole film scowling.

An exaggeration. And in Man of Steel he did smile.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?

Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.

The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.

The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.

Implying you can't take Tree People:


And talking animals:


Seriously

One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.

Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
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1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.


2. No that is badass/awseome.

This is serious:

There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.

Yes he is:

That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.

Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.

No she wouldn't have. Superman gives her spear, Superman distracts Doomsday, she pokes him with spear and shoves it deep in him, they get away and Doomsday dies. End movie.

The film is a textbook example of poor writing, directing, and editing.

Have you forgotten that in the movie Wonder Woman had to hold down Doomsday with her Magic Lasso Rope? Leaving Doomsday binded for Superman to do the Killing Stab?

Because Superman is incapable of distracting him for 30 seconds for her to stab him? That makes no sense.

So your point is that you think Superman should not have died?

Yes. Because it's something they should've waited to do. But they want to have 500 stories in their movies. It thematically makes no sense and everyone knows he's coming back to life so it holds no weight. It was absolutely pointless.

Even if they waited establishing Superman with more movies, they still would have brought him back, it still would have been pointless.

Because there is no stakes in Superhero movies, the good guys always win, unless they pull a Game of Thrones, or worse make a movie that resets/reboots the universe like how Comics do it.

But waiting to do it would've made sense, because as it stands we barely know this character so we have no feelings for him. I mean, I guess it's kind of hard to feel for a mopey moron who spends the whole film scowling.

An exaggeration. And in Man of Steel he did smile.

That doesn't excuse the film from being overtly serious, grimdark drivel. Superman is one of my favorite superheroes and to see him be so misrepresented angers me.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

So, basically as trite and cliche as the first one?

Its also the most blatently "Disney-ish" of all the Marvel movies.

The comic books themselves are probably nothing like the movies.

The Guardians of the Galaxy count a raccoon and a walking, "talking" tree among their members. If the comics aren't like the movies, and took that shit seriously, then they must be hot garbage.

Implying you can't take Tree People:


And talking animals:


Seriously

One, a talking raccoon does not equate to a fucking talking lion, especially when he is voiced by Liam Neeson and is that world's version of God.

Two, I think we both know what I meant by serious.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/567ef66439f22bfd05d850ecc1927a90

1. There is also talking Beavers in the movie, and in the sequals talking Rats/Ferrets.


2. No that is badass/awseome.

This is serious:

There is nothing badass or awesome about Snyderman.

Yes he is:

That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.

Than she would have been stabbed by Doomsday.

No she wouldn't have. Superman gives her spear, Superman distracts Doomsday, she pokes him with spear and shoves it deep in him, they get away and Doomsday dies. End movie.

The film is a textbook example of poor writing, directing, and editing.

Have you forgotten that in the movie Wonder Woman had to hold down Doomsday with her Magic Lasso Rope? Leaving Doomsday binded for Superman to do the Killing Stab?

Because Superman is incapable of distracting him for 30 seconds for her to stab him? That makes no sense.

So your point is that you think Superman should not have died?

Yes. Because it's something they should've waited to do. But they want to have 500 stories in their movies. It thematically makes no sense and everyone knows he's coming back to life so it holds no weight. It was absolutely pointless.

Even if they waited establishing Superman with more movies, they still would have brought him back, it still would have been pointless.

Because there is no stakes in Superhero movies, the good guys always win, unless they pull a Game of Thrones, or worse make a movie that resets/reboots the universe like how Comics do it.

But waiting to do it would've made sense, because as it stands we barely know this character so we have no feelings for him. I mean, I guess it's kind of hard to feel for a mopey moron who spends the whole film scowling.

An exaggeration. And in Man of Steel he did smile.

That doesn't excuse the film from being overtly serious, grimdark drivel. Superman is one of my favorite superheroes and to see him be so misrepresented angers me.

He is also my favorite, but I am not too offended because of:

1. My own tastes.

2. That at least this Superman is no where a disservice to him compared to Superman At Earth's End.

Or his Portrayal in the Dark Knight Strikes Again.

Heck the Superman in the Comic Act of God is an even worse version of movie Superman. At least the movie Superman did things.

 

[Hawki]

I really liked Guardians but even I wont pretend the ending wasnt stupid. Though Quill is half-human, since his mother is human.

Yes, he's half-human, but it's basically an arse-pull. Quill being half...whatever, can basically be used to justify anything within the setting now. Aspyxiation? Gunfire? Poison? I mean, he survived being zapped by the stone because of his biology (and the "power of friendship"...gah!), so what else can he withstand?

That fight was awful. Also they should've given Wonder Woman the kryptonite spear, because that's what any intelligent person would do.

I'm not defending the fight, but I can't blame the sequence of events. Bats isn't good for much, Wonder Woman has Doomsday bound, Supes has the spear. Oh sure, you could try to switch weapons, but that's risking a lot in the heat of the moment.

Which is funny, because the final fight in Guardians is even more rediculous. Ronan has a stone that can kill all life on Xandar, so why not smuggle himself in? Why launch a full assault?

and they spoiled the "twist" of two Terminator movies in a row (the, arguably, only inspired parts of those movies).

Both twists? I know John was "spoiled" in Genisys, but what twist in Salvation? Marcus Wright? I think most people could guess the twist long before it was revealed.

I'd also argue that there's a lot to like in both movies, flawed as they are. They're still light-years ahead of Rise of the Machines.

I find the movie to be childish,saccharine, and unbelieveably corny and definately not a good representation of what a Superhero movie should be.

I'm not sure if one can really say what a movie "should be." I'm not even sure if Guardians qualifies as a superhero movie - it's more a "space adventure." But yes, I agree with the assessment.

The same movie that starts with the kid having to deal with his Mum dying of cancer. The same movie that has two characters who have lost their entire families to the various bad guys. Not really sure how much better a movie gets by having the characters spend half the screen time mopping around coming to terms with their lose.

No tragedy or hardships? Starlord's mother dies in front of him, and his last memory of her is refusing to hold her hand (and the guilt that would fester in his heart), before he is abducted by aliens, and basically forced to survive with a group of mercenaries who threatened to eat him every day apparently. According to the guy who raised him, and even if they weren't really going to eat him, using that threat of life on a child would fuck them up seriously. Starlord even comments about that later.

Rocket was a science experiment, repeatedly cut open, limbs severed, and then reattached over and over to perfect his state. He even loses his shit in the movie about how horrific that was for him. Gammora had to serve a person she hated, simply to try and get a chance to kill him, the guy who murdered her family, and, like Starlord, basically press ganged her into serving him against her will. Batista's family was murdered, and he swore his life to avenging them. And when he finally had the chance to get his revenge, he did it by basically betraying his companions, putting all of the galaxy at risk, just for his petty vengeance...a vengeance he didn't even get, because he got his ass kicked by the antagonist. I'm not really seeing how those things are examples of a lack of tragedy and hardships.

I'm not saying that those moments aren't there, but at least for me, they all fall flat.

Peter gets some gravitas with his mother, but the eating thing is played for laughs, including his reaction to it. Rocket does get a breakdown of "I don't even know what I am," but it only comes up when he's drunk, and IIRC, never brought up again. If he's tormented by his experiences, it barely even shows. Then we get other characters, but it's hard to sympathize with them because their problems stem from Ronan, and Ronan is a terrible villain, even by the standards of the MCU.

And I know that people like saying "I don't want a mopey character all film" (nevermind that excellent films have been made on that premise), but if BvS is going to one end of the spectrum with its angst, Guardians is at the other end, and systemic of the MCU's failings as a whole - terrible villains and a lack of gravitas/consequence.

 

[Saelune]

I really liked Guardians but even I wont pretend the ending wasnt stupid. Though Quill is half-human, since his mother is human.

Yes, he's half-human, but it's basically an arse-pull. Quill being half...whatever, can basically be used to justify anything within the setting now. Aspyxiation? Gunfire? Poison? I mean, he survived being zapped by the stone because of his biology (and the "power of friendship"...gah!), so what else can he withstand?

Well, how about what he has been shown to be capable of in the comics? He is not a new character made for the movie. I prefer it when movies respect the source material.

 

[Harrycanyon1982]

Baby Groot is awesome and Drax is just more Drax and Mantis looks great.

Looks awesome and love the first one! looks almost better than the original and hope for another Howard cameo.