Hate.

[Scout Tactical]

I confess, I'm a lover, not a hater, but I'm part of a whole KINGDOM of Loathing.

 

[TeeBs]

I don't "hate" anyone. People saying they hate historical figures always confused me. I feel no emotion towards Hitler at all. I didn't know the guy. Do I support what he did? Of course not. Not in the slightest. I view him as a historical figure and refrain from judging him on a personal level.

I hate Hitler, I hate everything Hitler did, and that among many reasons is a deterrent of me killing jews.

Im all for lovey doby world peace, but its not like I am going to pretend that I am going to try to phase out a natural human emotion.

Do you hate his art?

didn't get accepted to school, but he wasn't without talent
/missing the point


Hates an intregal part of our personalities, we shouldn't delve too deep into it, (and be haters [a term I loath]) but we shouldn't totally deny it.

I am not impressed.

That is a beautiful painting.

Yea but I seem to be impacted more by simplistic or out there stuff like Minimalism and Surrealism but thats just me.

 

[MakerOfRoads]

We can try to weigh the good and the bad all day. All I am trying to get across is that religion and ignorance are not synonyms of each other. Which seems like really reasonable terms.

True enough.

While (most) religion's founding ideal is faith, you are correct in saying that religion and ignorance don't mean the same thing.

Just for clarification though,

"faith [feɪθ]
n
1. strong or unshakeable belief in something, esp without proof or evidence"

Just sayin'...

 

[TeeBs]

I hate Hitler, I hate everything Hitler did, and that among many reasons is a deterrent of me killing jews.

Im all for lovey doby world peace, but its not like I am going to pretend that I am going to try to phase out a natural human emotion.

Do you hate his art?

didn't get accepted to school, but he wasn't without talent
/missing the point


Hates an intregal part of our personalities, we shouldn't delve too deep into it, (and be haters [a term I loath]) but we shouldn't totally deny it.

I am not impressed.

Yeah, buy you don't hate it. There are some things Hitler did that you are apathetic towards. Anyways he did more things, like the famous "Hitler firetruck"

OK maybe my last comment gave the wrong idea so I will state what I meant that hate can be used as a motivator to do good.

 

[Dwarfman]

I only really hate 2 things anymore.

Stupidity. People who are willfully ignorant.

And going off that, Religion.

Nothing imo, is worse for humanity. Religion and superstition.
FUCKING hate it.

Some people would say that religious comment is ignorant.

How so?

You have nothing to base your opinion off, since you haven't lived in a world without religion or superstition. So you actually have no way of knowing if the world would be better off.

Therefore, you made a very ignorant comment.

Whether it was willful or not, is debatable.

I do have something to base my opinion off of.
And I said nothing about the world being better off.
I know the world has pretty much never been without the taint of religion, as is evident by the fact every sect of humanity has some form of superstition, that ill give to you.

But, the effects of religion have been far reaching and terrible. And the effects are still apparent today. Personally, i believe they outweigh the benefits.

One of the easiest, biggest, and easily relatable incidents if the massive technological gap cause by the dark ages.

You tell me. Is many thousands of people wallowing in misery, poverty, and dying of deseases and conditions that can be remedied as easily as WASHING YOURSELF, good? Did that make the world better off? What about the witch hysteria that went on after that? Is burning innocent people to death because they were women, did that make the world a better place?

No it certainly did not.

My point was only that the guy who quoted you first, may think your statement was ignorant, because there is zero way of knowing if the alternative is any better.

I never said I disagreed with you. Even though I do, but that's not what we are arguing about.

Actually the Dark Ages was caused by the fall of the Roman Empire due to barbarian invasions and internal conflict. It was the church which took the knowledge from the ashes and preserved it, kinda like the Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout. Alas just like the Brotherhood of Steel they were very slow at sharing their knowledge.Many of our early intellectuals were monks and nuns or were in the churches favour. Copernicus for instance whilst not a monk worked very closely with his uncle who was a bishop, his uncle also secured his educatiuon. Galileo as well was a personal friend of the Pope at the time who agreed with all of the mans teachings. Alas the cardinals who were greedy for power felt their power would be undermined by Galileo and the Pope if the intelectual continued his work! Alas that's human nature for you.

The act of washing was taken very seriously by the church. Afterall did not Christ bathe? Most of the superstitions regarding to washing were based upon traditional pagan myths.

As for witchburning...yeah you got me there. The only thing that I can say about that is during the course of history the church realised people were going overboard and started educating their inquisitors in the art of Law.

 

[badgersprite]

You've pretty much just summed up my philosophy, OP. I've never experienced anything close to hatred. I would know if I had. But I find if I'm getting to that sort of place of negativity, it's time for me to move on and take a look at myself and my priorities.

I can't control other people; the only person I can change is myself.

...Wow. I sound like a self-help author. :/

 

[crudus]

I hate when people tell me my religion is wrong. So far only Christian missionaries and some peers have done this; although, it does lead to something I love.

 

[Blind Sight]

"HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE."

Cookies for reference.

It's a natural human emotion, based on what we like and dislike. There's enough I dislike about this world that yes, I will continue to hate.

 

[Kortney]

I don't "hate" anyone. People saying they hate historical figures always confused me. I feel no emotion towards Hitler at all. I didn't know the guy. Do I support what he did? Of course not. Not in the slightest. I view him as a historical figure and refrain from judging him on a personal level.

I hate Hitler, I hate everything Hitler did, and that among many reasons is a deterrent of me killing jews.

Im all for lovey doby world peace, but its not like I am going to pretend that I am going to try to phase out a natural human emotion.

Do you hate his art?

didn't get accepted to school, but he wasn't without talent
/missing the point


Hates an intregal part of our personalities, we shouldn't delve too deep into it, (and be haters [a term I loath]) but we shouldn't totally deny it.

I am not impressed.

That is a beautiful painting.

Yea but I seem to be impacted more by simplistic or out there stuff like Minimalism and Surrealism but thats just me.

Fair enough, but I don't think that changes anything. That painting is beautiful. It's not my preferred style at all either, but I can acknowledge the talent there. Fantastic piece of art.

 

[TeeBs]

We can try to weigh the good and the bad all day. All I am trying to get across is that religion and ignorance are not synonyms of each other. Which seems like really reasonable terms.

True enough.

While (most) religion's founding ideal is faith, you are correct in saying that religion and ignorance don't mean the same thing.

Just for clarification though,

"faith [feɪθ]
n
1. strong or unshakeable belief in something, esp without proof or evidence"

Just sayin'...

Ignorance: the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.

Given all the knowledge that we know is factual, most of which Christians learned about in science such as evolution. They just choose to believe something different, but they have the knowledge of the other possibility. That is why they call it a leap of faith.

 

[MakerOfRoads]

Mostly because it assumes all religious people....ALL of them, not just 'God's Country' folk, are stupid, which assumes blame on religion as a whole. Nothing is wrong with believing in...well, anything you want to believe in. The problems come from when you use it as a crutch in your life, or a panacea explanation machine.

I personally hate assumption, ignorance, popularity. Though, I could argue all 3 start in the same place: "This is X because Y said so" sums it up rather well. It's like the master key to stupidity

I know not all religious people are stupid. A brother of mine is actually a very intelligent person, well above average, and a "died in the wool" believer.
And for the most part, in a perfect world, you are correct on the second bit as well. Normally there isn't anything wrong with believing in whatever makes you happy, as long as it does. True enough.

But, the problem comes in when your exposed to other people. Belief without proof by its very nature sets you up to be misled by others. If you can't hold those in charge accountable for their actions and decrees, why would you go along with it?

And one more thing about the first bit, yes, your right not all of them are stupid. But I've lived in "the south", and while not all of them are dumb, enough of them are.

 

[MakerOfRoads]

\Ignorance: the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.

Given all the knowledge that we know is factual, most of which Christians learned about in science such as evolution. They just choose to believe something different, but they have the knowledge of the other possibility. That is why they call it a leap of faith.

They just CHOOSE to believe in something different, yes. They CHOOSE to believe something thats based, that was created purely from, faith.

That sounds like willful ignorance to me.

 

[Dwarfman]

I only really hate 2 things anymore.

Stupidity. People who are willfully ignorant.

And going off that, Religion.

Nothing imo, is worse for humanity. Religion and superstition.
FUCKING hate it.

Some people would say that religious comment is ignorant.

How so?

You have nothing to base your opinion off, since you haven't lived in a world without religion or superstition. So you actually have no way of knowing if the world would be better off.

Therefore, you made a very ignorant comment.

Whether it was willful or not, is debatable.

I do have something to base my opinion off of.
And I said nothing about the world being better off.
I know the world has pretty much never been without the taint of religion, as is evident by the fact every sect of humanity has some form of superstition, that ill give to you.

But, the effects of religion have been far reaching and terrible. And the effects are still apparent today. Personally, i believe they outweigh the benefits.

One of the easiest, biggest, and easily relatable incidents if the massive technological gap cause by the dark ages.

You tell me. Is many thousands of people wallowing in misery, poverty, and dying of deseases and conditions that can be remedied as easily as WASHING YOURSELF, good? Did that make the world better off? What about the witch hysteria that went on after that? Is burning innocent people to death because they were women, did that make the world a better place?

No it certainly did not.

My point was only that the guy who quoted you first, may think your statement was ignorant, because there is zero way of knowing if the alternative is any better.

I never said I disagreed with you. Even though I do, but that's not what we are arguing about.

Actually the Dark Ages was caused by the fall of the Roman Empire due to barbarian invasions and internal conflict. It was the church which took the knowledge from the ashes and preserved it, kinda like the Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout. Alas just like the Brotherhood of Steel they were very slow at sharing their knowledge.Many of our early intellectuals were monks and nuns or were in the churches favour. Copernicus for instance whilst not a monk worked very closely with his uncle who was a bishop, his uncle also secured his educatiuon. Galileo as well was a personal friend of the Pope at the time who agreed with all of the mans teachings. Alas the cardinals who were greedy for power felt their power would be undermined by Galileo and the Pope if the intelectual continued his work! Alas that's human nature for you.

The act of washing was taken very seriously by the church. Afterall did not Christ bathe? Most of the superstitions regarding to washing were based upon traditional pagan myths.

As for witchburning...yeah you got me there. The only thing that I can say about that is during the course of history the church realised people were going overboard and started educating their inquisitors in the art of Law.

You are correct sir, but why did you quote me?

Ahhh...yeah sorry 'bout that, I saw the conversation thread and decided to make a comment. Your quote was the most recent posting in the converation at the time and I also thought your comment was pretty relevant. No offence intended.

 

[Raiha]

i believe that is necessary. if there were no hate, love could not exist. they are two halves of an equation. without one, the other simply cannot exist.

 

[Lem0nade Inlay]

I hate those who hate...

Side note: Does that mean I hate myself?

Hmm...

HOLY SHI-



OP: I agree...I used to use the word "hate" a lot, casually. But now I try to use it as little as possible, I still disagree with people, and I like to argue and debate. But if it gets out of hand I let it go, and I try not to be insulting to another person, ever.