I'm sorry, I didn't know that games that try to bring in real emotion suck. I'll remember to bash every game this year that has even an ounce of emotion in it. Thanks for the tip!HK_01 said:
Homefront Reviews - Average so far... 72%
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So I assume you were also unimpressed with the sections in Half-life 2 involving metrocops beating up random civilians, and massacring a captured and defenceless resistance cell with machinegun fire?HK_01 said:
(Of course, it could be you're one of the comparatively uncommon Escapists who didn't like/hasn't played HL2, but in that case my point still stands for other people.)
That's not emotion. Well, it is, but it's achieved through very blatant manipulation. It's about the same "emotion" as the shooting of civilians on an airport in MW2, or having a scene where puppies are shoveled into an oven. The Koreans are simply depicted as almost comically evil in this game.Saucycardog said:
Hey, what can you do, the first 4 seconds it takes to build any first impression will always out weigh the impression made in the long run...=/Saucycardog said:
Anyways, the only reason some of you keep making threads about this game is because you think it's been unfairly miss judged, if it hadn't been you might not have even been interested in the first place.
I actually expect the game to be good. From what I see, it looks polished with a fun setting. I do want to play it. However, I can definitely wait until it drops in price. Why? Well, no matter how good it is, it will probably ring of Call of Duty. Modern day military shooter, with all the details that we have come to expect of that genre. I'm sure Homefront will add its own elements to make it fun and unique, deserving the title of something more then, "Clone", but still, I have the recent Call of Duty's and Battlefield. Even if Homefront is better then both, it's still treading some similar ground. The campaign will likely be short, because a game like that requires a constant string of detailed set pieces, and the tropes will probably be familiar. I'm sure that I will enjoy the campaign, but that's still a lot of money for an inevitably short campaign. Games of this genre generally are strongest in the multiplayer arena, and in addition to already needing to play more Black Ops and Battlefield: BC2, I am interested in Crysis 2, that will add another COD-like multiplayer. The CoD style multiplayer is great, the popularity of it if anything should be an indication of its strength. However, no matter how much you love Chinese food, having it for breakfast, lunch and dinner will get on your nerves. I have other COD-like formats for multiplayer, and Crysis 2 multiplayer will be enough for oversaturation to begin with (I mainly want Crysis 2 for the single player). That will make Homefront multiplayer completely redundant, and it wouuld not be realistic of me to expect Homefront single player to be strong enough, in a sea of games with similar tone, , to justify the starting price. Let it come down in price, and Ill enjoy it.
Well this is a FPS and not a RPG, so it has to take certain liberties to try to build character and emotion. Besides, that was just the beggining of the game so there is probably much more focused and defined emotion in the rest of the game since they now have the exposition covered.HK_01 said:
On reviews:
MS-XBOX-WORLD (nice of their logo to leave out all punctuation, forcing me to insert some) review didn't impress me that much, to be honest. They devoted the majority of the review to the singleplayer, with the result that I now know how good the campaign is but know little of the multiplayer. In a game like this, which is clearly trying to succeed in both the SP and MP aspect (like Halo), I think equal portions of the review should be devoted to both.
Also, they score a game based on the following categories:
Gameplay
Graphics
Sound
Longevity
...something is missing from that list. Beginning with S.
XboxAddict has the same problem when it comes to lacking a "story" subcategory, but on the other hand they covered that lots in the written review. In fact, the written review was brilliant. It covered all the reasons why he liked the game and backed up his arguments. I'll be looking at XboxAddict's reviews from now on. I also think I'm gonna try Homefront.
So basically, Haters: look at the reviews before spouting your indignant rhetoric. Don't make baseless assumptions. You come across as arrogant idiots half the time (at least).
MS-XBOX-WORLD (nice of their logo to leave out all punctuation, forcing me to insert some) review didn't impress me that much, to be honest. They devoted the majority of the review to the singleplayer, with the result that I now know how good the campaign is but know little of the multiplayer. In a game like this, which is clearly trying to succeed in both the SP and MP aspect (like Halo), I think equal portions of the review should be devoted to both.
Also, they score a game based on the following categories:
Gameplay
Graphics
Sound
Longevity
...something is missing from that list. Beginning with S.
XboxAddict has the same problem when it comes to lacking a "story" subcategory, but on the other hand they covered that lots in the written review. In fact, the written review was brilliant. It covered all the reasons why he liked the game and backed up his arguments. I'll be looking at XboxAddict's reviews from now on. I also think I'm gonna try Homefront.
So basically, Haters: look at the reviews before spouting your indignant rhetoric. Don't make baseless assumptions. You come across as arrogant idiots half the time (at least).
Actually I was refering to the zealotry from both sides. I don't care who likes this game or not, I like many others are simply tired of the same checklist mechanics for every shooter release.Korten12 said:
Some comments on the other hand are worse than just plain denial.
More like, "someone disagrees with me, I must now insult their mother."
Notice how SOME of the people trying to stand up for the game, and fair enough if they want to, seem to prefer bashing on the people who are criticising it, rather than debunking the actual criticism.
'Typical escapist responce'
'First person shooter haters'
'Minecraft players'
'You just say that because there's guns in it'
Typical, pointless... hopeless responces.
I would put more stock in a 90/100 review if every AAA game didn't get them. I have no doubt that homefront will be some level of fun, but I keep on buying games that I think will be really good and getting disappointed. For example: Two Worlds 2, they have a map that you can't visit most of, horse riding is a gimmick, boats are an even bigger gimmick, the final boss battle is a gimmick that sucks if you're not a tank with a shit ton of health. I'm going to hold on to my money after shogun 2 and be careful about buying the games I want.
....Korten12 said:
Wow. Just wow. It doesn't even look like you were trying to avoid proving my point. As far as I'm aware the Escapist is one of few places where these kind of objections ever even come up, so good on them for wanting better I say.
If your game of the year wasn't Guild Wars 2, I would lose all hope.
With all of that money they spent marketing it I wouldn't be surprised one bit if some of that money went to reviewers pockets. The game doesn't even look that good. I'm waiting for honest user reviews.
Yeah I saw your point. People defending it, typicall post insults to those attacking. Though it wouldn't be as bashing if they actually looked into it more and then bashed it. Like someone said above us:ZombieGenesis said:
This is the problem, the attackers are causing the defending to act how they do.
You make a fair point. While I wouldn't put down all of the responces to being purely 'reactionary', there are plenty of statements against the score as opposed to the review. That said, those videos previously provided do summarise just about everything I would have said about it...Korten12 said:
But I can understand why what appears to be simple objection must be upsetting. While I wouldn't defend anything perpetuating the 'same old' design, I get that some may have interest in this game beyond the basic mechanics.
Perhaps those planning to invade the US?
Who knows, but I can't deny that people have the right to defend what they like.