How could they screw this up??? Favorite game series that just went to hell.
- Thread starter captainaweshum
- Start date
Recommended Videos
Have one that I think no one mentioned yet: Alien vs Predator.
The first one was quite original and absolutely horrifying. Playing as an alien was goddamn awesome and took more than a little time to master, but once you got used to the lightening fast speed and wall running, you were almost afraid of yourself. Playing as a marine was a total lesson in fear. I sat a friend in front of the game, trying to coerce him to play the marine campaign, but he soon refused to continue even before meeting his first alien.
Boy was I disappointed when I got AvP 2... Gimped alien controls and booring levels. Only redeeming thing about it was that you got to live the entire alien life-cycle.
I didn't even bother with the latest installment. Haven heard much good about it.
The first one was quite original and absolutely horrifying. Playing as an alien was goddamn awesome and took more than a little time to master, but once you got used to the lightening fast speed and wall running, you were almost afraid of yourself. Playing as a marine was a total lesson in fear. I sat a friend in front of the game, trying to coerce him to play the marine campaign, but he soon refused to continue even before meeting his first alien.
Boy was I disappointed when I got AvP 2... Gimped alien controls and booring levels. Only redeeming thing about it was that you got to live the entire alien life-cycle.
I didn't even bother with the latest installment. Haven heard much good about it.
Series that were abused and potentially "ruined", eh? I'm game.
Lets remove my obvious choices first...
-Mario anything (I might be the only person alive who did not like Mario 64 and onward)
-Final Fantasy (is it just me? Or are many of the Squeenix off-brands just lower budget copies of the recent Final Fantasy games?)
-Warcraft (Way to destroy your own franchise Blizzard. Sacrificed on a bloody altar to the Cash Cow)
-First Person Shooters in General (It would take me all day to explain)
-Tales of . (It's nice to see Namco-Bandai do utter jack shit to make a new game in the last 9 years. Symphonia was good, Abyss was excellent, and Vesperia made me want to gouge my ears out at the music. Eternal Sonata continued this tradition by being a clone of these in all but name. Seriously.)
Now to more narrow niche titles...
-Suikoden (haven't played Tierkreis, but it lacks the series' continuity and lore WHICH IS WHY I LIKE THE SERIES IN THE FIRST PLACE. If you have to make a spinoff, do something with Flik and Viktor, those guys were badass and fun to watch.)
-Armored Core (one dumb gimmick after another...)
-Mana series (this is one of the most sodomized series ever put forth by Squeenix. The only series that took it worse was Final Fantasy 7, which shouldn't have been a series in the first place. Get some good story writers and a half-decent action-RPG and you would have a winner for sure on today's good-RPG-starved markets.)
-Deus Ex (One of my personal all time favorite games, now reduced to a cliche action game...though I haven't heard much about it since last year. It looks like it is utterly boned already)
-Super Smash Bros (Yes. I hate Brawl. It seems to completely fail to grasp what it was that made the first two games so amazing. It isn't BAD, but I could never find myself enjoying it.)
Game series that didn't really ever suck but went to Hell anyway.
-Tribes
-SWAT
-X-COM
-Space Flight Games (Uhh...how about Freespace 3? Without it sucking please.)
Lets remove my obvious choices first...
-Mario anything (I might be the only person alive who did not like Mario 64 and onward)
-Final Fantasy (is it just me? Or are many of the Squeenix off-brands just lower budget copies of the recent Final Fantasy games?)
-Warcraft (Way to destroy your own franchise Blizzard. Sacrificed on a bloody altar to the Cash Cow)
-First Person Shooters in General (It would take me all day to explain)
-Tales of . (It's nice to see Namco-Bandai do utter jack shit to make a new game in the last 9 years. Symphonia was good, Abyss was excellent, and Vesperia made me want to gouge my ears out at the music. Eternal Sonata continued this tradition by being a clone of these in all but name. Seriously.)
Now to more narrow niche titles...
-Suikoden (haven't played Tierkreis, but it lacks the series' continuity and lore WHICH IS WHY I LIKE THE SERIES IN THE FIRST PLACE. If you have to make a spinoff, do something with Flik and Viktor, those guys were badass and fun to watch.)
-Armored Core (one dumb gimmick after another...)
-Mana series (this is one of the most sodomized series ever put forth by Squeenix. The only series that took it worse was Final Fantasy 7, which shouldn't have been a series in the first place. Get some good story writers and a half-decent action-RPG and you would have a winner for sure on today's good-RPG-starved markets.)
-Deus Ex (One of my personal all time favorite games, now reduced to a cliche action game...though I haven't heard much about it since last year. It looks like it is utterly boned already)
-Super Smash Bros (Yes. I hate Brawl. It seems to completely fail to grasp what it was that made the first two games so amazing. It isn't BAD, but I could never find myself enjoying it.)
Game series that didn't really ever suck but went to Hell anyway.
-Tribes
-SWAT
-X-COM
-Space Flight Games (Uhh...how about Freespace 3? Without it sucking please.)
Fallout. And although I hate Fallout III, that's not where the series went to hell. Honestly, it broke as early as Fallout Tactics. We got two good games out of the franchise, I'd prefer if they'd just let it rest after that.
The Elder Scrolls. Arena was amazing, and so was Daggerfall. While I was ambivalent to Morrowind, at least I had fun the whole game through. Oblivion was a major disappointment.
As for Silent Hill, I really don't think it's all that much worse now, just... very different.
And to end my post with a punchline: Duke Nukem.
The Elder Scrolls. Arena was amazing, and so was Daggerfall. While I was ambivalent to Morrowind, at least I had fun the whole game through. Oblivion was a major disappointment.
As for Silent Hill, I really don't think it's all that much worse now, just... very different.
I beg to differ. The first game was great. X-COM: Terror of the Deep was embarassing.Atmos Duality said:
And to end my post with a punchline: Duke Nukem.
I guess i am being a bit to mean to SH3. I was just expecting something better. Not just the last game repackaged with my favorite bits cut out.Jennacide said:
As for Valkyrie my beef with it was despite the fact i was getting 100% sin on every map i got the instant failure ending for not killing my companions. Which bothered me. If i am strong enough to beat my enemies without the feather and still collect the total sin i needed for each map why does it matter if i kill my friends or not. It never says that you must kill your friends just that it can make it easier.
In Lenneth it flat out states "You need to send one hero per chapter to fight in the war" giving indication that yes you do need to do this. Since Hel doesn't tell me she needs the souls of my companions and gives no clear indication that i must sacrifice people, only that i must collect sin i thought it was alright to just overkill my enemies. Something i got really good at.
Only to be punished despite doing exactly what the game wanted me to do.
AGGGH.
That and there was no more dungeons or towns to explore and solve.
Deus Ex: Invisible War was terrible compared to the first, hopefully the new one goes back to its roots, although there are rumors it might be semi-sandbox, which could be an improvement.
I think Doom 3 got kind of a raw deal. if it wasn't called Doom, and if there wasn't a huge amount of hype over it, I think most people would have recognized it for what it is- a decent, if generic, shooter.
Red Faction I think is my pick. The first one had really tight gunfights, even if the AI was stupid. The weapons were all classic. I couldn't even play the second, where I at least finished Invisible War. They focused too much on the B-grade storyline, which I think Guerrilla is guilty of too. Guerrilla wasn't bad, but they're trying to make Red faction something other than a shooter, which is kind of missing the point.
EDIT: Definitely second Warcraft, they cocked up with the third.
I think Doom 3 got kind of a raw deal. if it wasn't called Doom, and if there wasn't a huge amount of hype over it, I think most people would have recognized it for what it is- a decent, if generic, shooter.
Red Faction I think is my pick. The first one had really tight gunfights, even if the AI was stupid. The weapons were all classic. I couldn't even play the second, where I at least finished Invisible War. They focused too much on the B-grade storyline, which I think Guerrilla is guilty of too. Guerrilla wasn't bad, but they're trying to make Red faction something other than a shooter, which is kind of missing the point.
EDIT: Definitely second Warcraft, they cocked up with the third.
Halo series, hands down. First game was so bloody awesome, fresh and epic that the hype towards the second installment was indescribable, but when it hit the shelves and I played it I couldn't believe that what I had hoped for turned out to be was a gold sprayed piece of plastic shit huge disappointment.
That also explains why I owned Halo 3 for well over a year before I decided to play it, and it goes without saying that it was another disappointment.
ODST didn't really make up for it either, as I consider it being the worst title so far in the series.
No, I don't look forward to Halo: Reach, just in case you wondered.
That also explains why I owned Halo 3 for well over a year before I decided to play it, and it goes without saying that it was another disappointment.
ODST didn't really make up for it either, as I consider it being the worst title so far in the series.
No, I don't look forward to Halo: Reach, just in case you wondered.
Final Fantasy is one. I still like them well enough and unfortunately, I will forever be a slave to Square Enix and I will forever play each one that comes out buuuut...there hasn't been one lately that's SUPER good in every aspect. :/
Resident Evil too. I love that series. Love love love. But I must admit that the plot's starting to get stupid...-glares at RE5- I liked it, but near the end, it just...fell apart with a giant "WTF" at the end.
Resident Evil too. I love that series. Love love love. But I must admit that the plot's starting to get stupid...-glares at RE5- I liked it, but near the end, it just...fell apart with a giant "WTF" at the end.
Paper Mario.
The original game on N64 was, and still is, on my list of best games EVER. A simple and fun RPG with so much fun packed in to it, I played it forever and had a nerdgasm when I beat the game. The gamecube one was also fantastic, but I think there were a few moments in the game that we're abnormally difficult. Small complaint in the grand scheme of things though.
And then comes this giant sack of shit Super Paper Mario. And THEY TOOK AWAY THE TURN BASED COMBAT. Seriously, you can't just take the main element of a game and make it the complete opposite. My guess is they did for 2 reasons, to show of the wii remote's controls and to appeal to the retarded gamer who can't comprehend turn based combat.
Now you just jump on enemies and hit them with hammers and stuff.....I can't remember completely, I haven't played wii in forever, let alone that bad game. And they had some stupid 3D affect in the game.....yeah, a game that was made to be 2D is now 3D. Boy do I just love running around without using strategies.
Thanks Nintendo for taking a hammer to Paper Mario's face. Oh yeah, and if you want to make another one, the first step would be to make it on a system with a real controller.
The original game on N64 was, and still is, on my list of best games EVER. A simple and fun RPG with so much fun packed in to it, I played it forever and had a nerdgasm when I beat the game. The gamecube one was also fantastic, but I think there were a few moments in the game that we're abnormally difficult. Small complaint in the grand scheme of things though.
And then comes this giant sack of shit Super Paper Mario. And THEY TOOK AWAY THE TURN BASED COMBAT. Seriously, you can't just take the main element of a game and make it the complete opposite. My guess is they did for 2 reasons, to show of the wii remote's controls and to appeal to the retarded gamer who can't comprehend turn based combat.
Now you just jump on enemies and hit them with hammers and stuff.....I can't remember completely, I haven't played wii in forever, let alone that bad game. And they had some stupid 3D affect in the game.....yeah, a game that was made to be 2D is now 3D. Boy do I just love running around without using strategies.
Thanks Nintendo for taking a hammer to Paper Mario's face. Oh yeah, and if you want to make another one, the first step would be to make it on a system with a real controller.
I have to disagree, I thought Resistance 2 was much better. The only two problems I had were no co-op story mode and you could only carry two weapons. Everything else was great. Especially since Nathan Hale had more than 4 lines. Dont get me wrong, I loved the first one, I just think 2 is better. Hopefully they bring back the weapon wheel in the next one though.Yossarian1507 said:
Just to feel smart (i'm not) i'll answer that because I actually know the answer!TheTim said:
Square Enix was going bankrupt and Final Fantasy was meant to be their last game, but it was such a huge success it took them right out of the poor house, a series was born.
Leisure Suit Larry.
When the creator of the original game is saying he is glad he has NOTHING to do with the most recent one (Box Office Bust just so you know), you know something is REALLY wrong.
http://www.allowe.com/Larry/BOB.htm
When the creator of the original game is saying he is glad he has NOTHING to do with the most recent one (Box Office Bust just so you know), you know something is REALLY wrong.
http://www.allowe.com/Larry/BOB.htm