How do you get through to racists who have utterly dejected the term "racist"?
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Hey, just because the minority of hicks in the South are extremely vocal about their stupidity, doesn't mean we all are. I live in the South, and I can count the number of them I've met on one hand.Gecko clown said:
OT: Oh racism, you pop up so often nowadays. I didn't actually watch the video, but I can get the idea of what these ladies said. I would like to ask them why they even bothered to post this video. Did they think they'd start something great? Like a mass-movement to "retake" their rights as white people? Or were they just bored and wanted to stir something up, poke an already sore subject of racism. At least if you're going to put yourself out there, do a good job of it. Don't go spouting off your opinions like facts unless you want to be shouted at for being an idiot/bigot.
Why aren't more of you talking about the OP's misuse of the word "dejected" in the thread title?
Seriously guys it's really bugging me. I can't even pay attention to these racists.
Seriously guys it's really bugging me. I can't even pay attention to these racists.
Always fun in America to hear white folks talking about genocide. I always want a native to roll up and ask
"A what country?"
OT: Teach their kids better is all i can think of
"A what country?"
OT: Teach their kids better is all i can think of
I hate to be that guy, but it itches so bad.... Dejected doesn't mean what you think it means. You were thinking rejected. Even ejected might have worked. No blame; easy mistake.
OT: There are some people there is just no getting through to. As you get older, you start to realize that stupid is very real, very common, and isn't going anywhere (any time soon). To remain optimistic, you'll have to put faith in evolution. Videos like this can definitely put that faith in peril. It certainly made me feel... (wait for it) ...dejected.
OT: There are some people there is just no getting through to. As you get older, you start to realize that stupid is very real, very common, and isn't going anywhere (any time soon). To remain optimistic, you'll have to put faith in evolution. Videos like this can definitely put that faith in peril. It certainly made me feel... (wait for it) ...dejected.
Well they do raise some valid points, but "white genocide?" "white countries?" "final solution?" What absurdity is this? What the hell is a "white country?" I don't know of any "white countries." Also I've never heard of anyplace that excludes white people. White people have never been discriminated against so there's no need to actively discourage the behaviour.
But... that's not strictly true.canadamus_prime said:
As an example, people are attacked for being white, it does happen. It's not surprising either, you'd expect it to happen like anything else. There's no point making light of certain people's problems in life just because they were born as part of a certain "group" (as though race or gender or some such is a kind of club where everyone meets together now and then to share collectively in their collective resources) and you feel that group has it well overall or some such. It doesn't balance anything, it doesn't help anything.
And of course, plenty of white people have been discriminated against by other white people, which may be worth mentioning also as an aside.
And when we don't have dissenting voices, voices on both sides of an issue, everything goes to **** because there no checks or balances. It's inevitable. Nothing wrong with questioning things and making sure things stand up to scrutiny and looking at other views.
There's no need for oversimplification either just because it hurts one's brain to have to face the complicated realities.
Okay, first things first: we need to get their terminology right.
Beeing looked at funny, because you say you don't want any more blacks in your country is not genocide.
This is genocide
Second of all: The Nazis didn't want to kill 6 million jews, they wanted to kill all jews. They just got to six million before they were stopped.
Perhaps it is because I'm german, but using words like genocide in such a trivial context just makes me incredibly sad and angry. Maybe those idiots should visit places where such events occured to get some perspective. Sadly there are enough of those throughout the world.
Was that video technically racist?
it did not seem racist to me, xenophobic and just crazy yes but not racist.
if anything the most racist thing in it would be assuming it's only racism if white people do it, such as their example with marrying within ones own "race". the other people wanting to marry within their own race are equally racist.
it did not seem racist to me, xenophobic and just crazy yes but not racist.
if anything the most racist thing in it would be assuming it's only racism if white people do it, such as their example with marrying within ones own "race". the other people wanting to marry within their own race are equally racist.
What might be meant there is how white people invading somewhere is shown as a bad thing. There might be a point there if it wasn't much more common for white people to be the invaders than the invaded (the only reversals of this that come to mind are the Moorish conquering of Iberian peninsula and the Mongol invasion of eastern Europe).Andy of Comix Inc said:
Yeah, if they're idiots.Andy of Comix Inc said:
You don't. Their minds are made up. Whether that's "made up" in the sense that they're concluded or in the sense that they're fictional, I'll let you decide.Andy of Comix Inc said:
Guys, here's the problem: they are right.
It is all one way. Consider the following: it is acceptable for black men to make racial slurs against white men, but not the other way around. That is racism; it's racist against whites. It states that blacks have more rights than whites.
The way to solve racism is not to go in ham-fisted and demand that white people "accept" black people, or asians, or whatever little group you fight for. That is what makes white people walk over to the nazi booth and read their pamphlets on ethnic cleansing.
The way you solve it, in fact, is to shut the fuck up. You stop using words like "hate crime", and stop defining people by their skin colour. A black man getting shot by a white guy is not a "hate crime", it's murder. An asian who gets robbed at knife-point is not the victim of a "hate crime", they're victims of a mugging.
Until the 'pro-minority' people learn that, all they're doing is digging a hole that they'll never climb out of.
It is all one way. Consider the following: it is acceptable for black men to make racial slurs against white men, but not the other way around. That is racism; it's racist against whites. It states that blacks have more rights than whites.
The way to solve racism is not to go in ham-fisted and demand that white people "accept" black people, or asians, or whatever little group you fight for. That is what makes white people walk over to the nazi booth and read their pamphlets on ethnic cleansing.
The way you solve it, in fact, is to shut the fuck up. You stop using words like "hate crime", and stop defining people by their skin colour. A black man getting shot by a white guy is not a "hate crime", it's murder. An asian who gets robbed at knife-point is not the victim of a "hate crime", they're victims of a mugging.
Until the 'pro-minority' people learn that, all they're doing is digging a hole that they'll never climb out of.
While that is true, there's a big difference between Men's Rights and men's rights. You have any number of people working to support the rights of men, and that is of course a noble endeavor, but the Men's Rights movement is simply a backlash against women having more rights than they used to. Similar to the way groups with things like "Family" "Values" or "Traditional" in their name are usually only interested in spreading homophobia, or countries with "People's" or "Democratic" in the title tend to be accused of human rights abuses and tyranny.SeanSeanston said:
Assuming that the group that has been in power all that time has suddenly stopped being in power and all problems caused during that time have been resolved, yes.SeanSeanston said:
If there's one thing I took from this, it's the same thing I've taken from every major social or cultural movement since I was born (1980):
People love to be Victims.
It's probably the biggest addiction on the earth. There are documentaries devoted to how difficult it is to be Born rich [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0342143/]. And the people who are rich found this to be galling, apparently [http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/style/biting-the-silver-spoon-that-feeds-him-on-film.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm].
This video is trying to appeal to the side of whites that want to be the victim, with "making sense" in the beginning, as some people say. I'm sure that everyone who lives in a pretty diverse area has felt some form of racism. But as people who live to play the victims, a few of us hold on to those incidents more than others. For every white person who can cite stories about being abused because of their ethnicity, they probably couldn't count the incidents where other people just accepted them or rejected them based on who they are. Same for blacks. Same for Asians.
Also, for people who don't know, South Africa is basically the reverse USA. With the white population being around 29 or so percent. Hell, a quick search in the US Census shows that America's black population is only 13%. More whites make up the population of South Africa than Blacks make up the population if the USA. But yeah, that's a black country.
People love to be Victims.
It's probably the biggest addiction on the earth. There are documentaries devoted to how difficult it is to be Born rich [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0342143/]. And the people who are rich found this to be galling, apparently [http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/style/biting-the-silver-spoon-that-feeds-him-on-film.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm].
This video is trying to appeal to the side of whites that want to be the victim, with "making sense" in the beginning, as some people say. I'm sure that everyone who lives in a pretty diverse area has felt some form of racism. But as people who live to play the victims, a few of us hold on to those incidents more than others. For every white person who can cite stories about being abused because of their ethnicity, they probably couldn't count the incidents where other people just accepted them or rejected them based on who they are. Same for blacks. Same for Asians.
Also, for people who don't know, South Africa is basically the reverse USA. With the white population being around 29 or so percent. Hell, a quick search in the US Census shows that America's black population is only 13%. More whites make up the population of South Africa than Blacks make up the population if the USA. But yeah, that's a black country.
You don't? You just educate everyone else, and wait for these sad fuckers to die.
Most of us have heard the jokes about racist grandparents right? It's because they're a product of a different upbringing, and they see no problem with it. People tend to stick with the things they already do. Once they get a community around them, they're very hard to stop. The effort it would take to engage such vile people to knock some sense into them really isn't worth it. I mean, seriously, is anyone here interested in spending a long period of time to rehabilitate these people until they're at the bare minimum of a decent human being?
We ignore stupid people like this, and occassionally laugh at them. Because that's better than crying.
Most of us have heard the jokes about racist grandparents right? It's because they're a product of a different upbringing, and they see no problem with it. People tend to stick with the things they already do. Once they get a community around them, they're very hard to stop. The effort it would take to engage such vile people to knock some sense into them really isn't worth it. I mean, seriously, is anyone here interested in spending a long period of time to rehabilitate these people until they're at the bare minimum of a decent human being?
We ignore stupid people like this, and occassionally laugh at them. Because that's better than crying.
