How far should "It's my body, I can do what I want" go?
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I view that as being punished for what my mother did, My mother would have done this too me. In a way my mother is the punisher. *figuratively speaking of course.* Even if it is accidental. If you believe in god, god is punishing you for the sins of your mother. If you don't your still being put in a shitty position for something you didn't do.zehydra said:
Drinking while pregnant is like welding without a welder mask... you could do it, but why the fuck would you?
Answer: your a raging alcoholic/raging sparks-in-face...oholic.
(Also, im sure theres a name for it, but i dont know it, so its gonna be called a welder mask)
Answer: your a raging alcoholic/raging sparks-in-face...oholic.
(Also, im sure theres a name for it, but i dont know it, so its gonna be called a welder mask)
It should stop as soon as it starts to hurt another body in you, interferes with the caregiving you have for another body, or you are not capable of making judgement.
If it only affects you, I couldn't care less. However, people don't understand what that means. If what you are doing will cost me money to support you or for your health care it becomes my problem. A pregnant women is responsible for TWO people no matter what though. I have a feeling child services will end up visiting that house at some point. The child will probably be put into the system if this is what his mother, family, and family friends are like. :? (
What happened here certainly isn't morally right. One of the big pro-choice arguments is that growing up in an orphanage is a bad life for the child, well giving a kid birth defects and being born to an alcoholic unfit mother certainly isn't good for the child. Theres a moral limit to what we allow people to do them selfs.
Someone mentioned suicide and in the same way when so one tells you their contemplating suicide you don't just say "Go for it, your grown up enough to make your own decisions". Even when you take the moral dilemma of a pregnant women out of the equation, theres still plenty of stuff we shouldn't allow people to do themselves.
Someone mentioned suicide and in the same way when so one tells you their contemplating suicide you don't just say "Go for it, your grown up enough to make your own decisions". Even when you take the moral dilemma of a pregnant women out of the equation, theres still plenty of stuff we shouldn't allow people to do themselves.
Pretty much this. It comes down to the future of the child. If the mother chooses to keep the child for whatever reason then they give up the right to abuse their own body until the child is born. By drinking/doing drugs/whatever while pregnant they are ruining the child's future, not their own.Bakuryukun said:
I think this whole thing is something best left to the parents: I can't imagine having a baby growing inside me and willfully harming it. Also, when the word 'parasite' was brought into this argument it might as well have ended there: anyone who calls a human child at any state a parasite doesn't really know what's going on and would be well noted to recall that they were once born from a woman and are thus parasites b their own definition.
If you're responsible for the life of another and you willingly take on that responsibility, then it should be illegal to bring harm to it. That child could be born with all sorts of problems, and it's sickening. If you do not want the child, then please... don't have it. It's an option.
I disagree with that statement. It's connected to the mom it's not born yet. Not considered legally a person yet, you can argue that though.Bakuryukun said:
Do not get me wrong. I do NOT condone people drinking/abusing themselves, and the unborn child when they are pregnant. Technically you can stop them because they are becoming a danger to themselves, in this case that is.
Fun fact for the idiots who want to keep calling unborn humans "parasites."
Parasite
-noun
1.
an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
If you know any medical professionals that call human fetuses parasites please tell them they are idiots.
Parasite
-noun
1.
an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
If you know any medical professionals that call human fetuses parasites please tell them they are idiots.
I guess if you want to ruin your body, go ahead, unless your pregnant and keeping the child.
You shouldn't make you child suffer for your own selfish stupidity.
Simple.
You shouldn't make you child suffer for your own selfish stupidity.
Simple.
It seems that any attempt to enforce this would come across as highly Orwellian in nature.BonsaiK said:
By the way, this has been bugging me for a while...What is your avatar of?