How many homophobic people are there actually?

[DudeistBelieve]

Loads of people are still homophobic. How many people support gay marriage, but think it's 'murky territory' when it comes to homosexuals adopting children?

I'll tell you: Lots.

Is that homophobia or just ignorance?

There's a difference?

I generally associate homophobia with hate and gay bashing. But a hypothetical person that feels it's okay for them to marry but a little iffy on letting them raise adopt a child... ehhh that persons heart isn't hate filled they're just ignorant to the reality that the kids will probably end up being okay.

 

[the27thvoice]

I have no idea. I can't remember the last time sexuality was even mentioned in a regular conversation. It's just not a big deal here (Norway).

Then what is the big social social issue in Norway?

Islam seems to be getting the most flak. It's getting better, but there is a very vocal minority who are convinced Norway will be under Taliban rule in about five years if muslims get accepted. This isn't politically acceptable to say, so there's no big political party saying it, but I can't talk to ten people in a row without anyone bringing the muslim danger up.

And while it's become very acceptable to be lesbians, I still hear of the guys who are beaten half to death for holding hands. As society as a whole accepts homosexuality, those who don't just get worse to compensate it seems.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

Personally me and my mates will happily co-locate with homosexual people (ie be in the same bar within earshot) and a couple of my freinds are gay. But what we don't like are the ones who make a big deal about it... Not a fan of camp people, they are just irritating, and obnoxious, and I dont like the seemingly large ammount of the gay community who seem to think its great to constantly bring up the topic of their sex life in full graphical representation... strait guys don't go round casually bringing up that kind of stuff every 5 minutes, so why do gay guys do it to us? Other than that there is not a problem!

 

[FalloutJack]

Funny thought: I'll bet homophobes are as afraid of being outed as homosexuals now.

 

[aba1]

I have no idea. I can't remember the last time sexuality was even mentioned in a regular conversation. It's just not a big deal here (Norway).

Same here (Canada) I think it is mostly a states and thirds world thing

 

[Zen Toombs]

Loads of people are still homophobic. How many people support gay marriage, but think it's 'murky territory' when it comes to homosexuals adopting children?

I'll tell you: Lots.

This.

There's a lot of subtle and not-so-subtle prejudice sent towards people who are not-straight.

 

[applesandoranges]

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[Monkeyman O'Brien]

I'm curious here, and I want to sound neutral because I really do want to know. Given how many times and in how many ways the definition of marriage has changed over the years, what is it about this particular change that concerns you?

How it has changed in centuries past is not my concern. Its definition within my life time is my only concern. And that definition is a union of a man and a woman which has legal benefits/responsibilities and strong religious overtones.
I have no problem at all with homosexual/lesbian couples getting all the legal rights and responsibilities to it under a different heading. Of course, my ultimate solution[footnote]Which will never happen because it would require both sides to get their heads outta their asses and compromise. Which lets be honest, both sides are too fucking stupid to do.[/footnote] would be for a countries president/prime minister/ruling warlord to go the whole separation of church and state way, thus declaring that they, as a representative of the government, have no right to judge on religious matters. So the title of Marriage becomes a issue of the church. So therefore, under the law, all marriage type unions carry the same name regardless of the sex of both parties. So legally speaking its civil unions all round. Leave the "marriage" issue to the church.
And I would be happy with that compromise simply because it would stop all the whining and wasting of tax payer money on something that is totally unimportant.

I'm going to say this delicately, because I don't want you to think that I'm attacking you, but do you know that the actual word "tranny" is itself a pejorative word? It's not a word that you should be using in a discussion on how you aren't bigoted, because by god are people going to jump on you.

Nope. The word tranny may be offensive to some people but is is most certainly not a pejorative in itself. It is simply a contraction of Transsexual/Trangender/Tran-whatever-fucking-title-they-want-to-be-known-as-this-week as I am not learning a whole assload of terms for a bunch of people who can not even decide themselves what is the correct word this week. And they always get so goddamn pissy if you use the wrong one.
Fortunately for me the escapist head mod agrees with me as I got a warning over turned because he agreed with my definition.
Some people may view the word Jap as offensive but to most it is simply a contraction of Japanese. Same with Yank, auzzie, brit, etc. All these words by themselves are fine. They would only be offensive if used offensively.
Some people may find the word tranny offensive but ultimately that is their problem. Not mine.

Oh and please don't both with the delicate speech stuff man. I find constant apologies only make people muddle their wording. Feel free to say whatever you want.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.353894-Reverend-Execute-Homosexuals#14049953


Yeah. There's a lot of it.

 

[Sandytimeman]

Maybe this is just the case for me, but now-a-days whenever I see someone saying that they are a "proud homosexual/bisexual whatevs'" I always think "so? Is that still the rage these days?". I have rarely, if ever, seen any homophobic activity where I live, so I'm always confused as to why there still are so many that feel so proud in announcing their sexuality. I'm 17, and I think that about 50% of all the girls I've met are bisexual.

But once again, this may just be me. How is it where you people live?

Missouri for one, Kansas for another. Basically anywhere there that is called the bible belt as far as the US goes. I am a homosexual who hides it, because I'd lose my job, my family, my friends if they found out. Its extremely un-friendly towards homosexuals here.

Also in the middle east and several other countries its still a capital offense to be gay. (refer to chart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory

 

[Zen Toombs]

The real problem, online at least, is that unless you pretty much are willing to personally suck off at least 100 gay men then you are considered a homophobe.
Look at all the half wits to resort to calling people a homophobe if they disagree with gay marriage. I personally am against gay marriage. Does not mean I hate or fear gay people. I am not religious either. I simply disagree with them wanting to change the definition of marriage.

The first thing you say is obviously hyperbole, so I'll ignore that. As for your gay marriage thing, why do you think it's a problem for two people who love each other to show the public that they commit to each other, and have it be recognized by the government? And why should it be called something else just because the participants are slightly different?

Spoiler: To be honest, I personally don't see there being too much difference between the disapproval of gay marriage now and the disapproval of interracial couples in the past.

But you obviously think differently, and I wanted to know what your reasoning is because I am a curious kitty.

However, I do take serious umbrage with "tranny". Really? Is it truly so hard for you to be just slightly not-rude?

EDIT: THE ABOVE HAS ALREADY BEEN NINJA'D. READ IF YOU WANT TO SEE A FUNNY SATURDAY MORNING BREAKFAST CEREAL COMIC, BUT OTHERWISE YOU CAN MOVE ALONG.

I am apprehensive when it comes to gay people, I just don't know what to do. However, I don't hate them, nor do I hate anyone

Why are you apprehensive, if I may ask? As far as I can tell, most people in the not-straight community are pretty much the same as those in the straight community, just that they like to have sex with different things.

Just so you know, I'm not saying this condescendingly, or Xly or Yly or Zly, I'm actually just curious.

Enough to make a difference.

Lets work on changing their minds, ey?

Hear hear!

 

[Trunipbob]

I think there are more homophobic-phobics than actual homophobes these days.
people are more worried about being politically correct and not offending people. it's everyone's right to be gay or bi or straight or whatever, but it's not alright to be against these things.
whenever someone does speak ill of someone else's orientation they are shouted down by the angry mob who proudly spout their case and belittle the offender calling them a relic or a homophrobe or saying they have an issue because they aren't comfortable with their own sexuality.

do I agree with homosexuality? nope.

do I have gay friends? yup.

do they know I think it's wrong? yup.

are we mature enough to not let this affect our friendship? yup.

have we argued about whether or not they should be aloud to by married? damn straight we have.

what's me beef with gay marriage? it is and always has been the "sacred bond between a man and a woman" if thy want to be legally recognised as a couple, fine, but don't destroy what other have held dear for hundreds / thousands of years in the process.

 

[Vault101]

Isnip.

youre allowed to speak out your belifs..

and Im allowed to question them, apealing to the fact your veiw is not a popular one doesnt make any criticism of that veiw any less vailid

also....hahaha hetero people have been destroying marrage on our own....adding gays wont change a thing

 

[Zen Toombs]

I'm curious here, and I want to sound neutral because I really do want to know. Given how many times and in how many ways the definition of marriage has changed over the years, what is it about this particular change that concerns you?

How it has changed in centuries past is not my concern. Its definition within my life time is my only concern. And that definition is a union of a man and a woman which has legal benefits/responsibilities and strong religious overtones.

I think your solution of "turn marriage into a religious thing, make 'gay marriage' legal but have the governmentally acknowledged term for marriages -straight or gay- be 'civil union'" is a good and decent one. However, I'm confused as to why you only concern yourself with the definition of marriage that it is now. As has been said, what marriage is has changed a whole lot over the years, especially within living memory. To restrict oneself to the strict interpretation of what you see in front of you seems to be looking at it the wrong way.

At least for me, the core of marriage is and has been the public acknowledgment of a union between people that love and care for each other, and the gender/sex/race/hat preference of the participants seems irrelevant to me. So long as the term the government uses is marriage, why can't homosexual couples be married?[footnote]An irrelevant point: people being married should be called marriage because "civil unioned" doesn't have the same ring to it.[/footnote]

The word tranny may be offensive to some people but is is most certainly not a pejorative in itself.

Also, I looked the word up on google and the first page was Wikipedia.[footnote]The next... many were porn sites, so yeah.

Should have seen that coming.

Moving along.[/footnote]

Here is what the page says:

Tranny (or Trannies) may refer to:

Transformer, an electrical device
Transgender person (considered pejorative)
Transistor radio, a small portable radio receiver using transistor-based circuitry
Transmission (mechanics), a component of a motor vehicle
Transvestite, a person who cross-dresses (considered pejorative)
Ford Transit (slang), a range of Ford panel vans, minibuses, and pickup trucks
Middlesbrough Transporter Bridge, bridge across the River Tees, England
Photographic transparency, made using reversal film
"Transylvania" short form for McFly song "Transylvania"

I understand that there is a lot of confusing lingo and so forth, but transgender is an umbrella term that isn't an insult. It's not about having to be PC (that would be needing to be absolutely correct on specifically what minor variation you're talking about), it's about being not insulting or rude. If you aren't meaning to be insulting, it takes the same effort to type "transgender" as opposed to "tranny". If you are meaning to be insulting, then trying to hide behind "but I'm just trying to be all edgy and not PC" insults the intelligence of both of us.

 

[theseworlds]

I don't think it's an issue in Australia. Most people don't care. Of course, if I see a guy prancing around, with a shrill voice, afraid to step in puddles, that ticks me off. You know, being overly feminine in public to the point of absurdity. I've got no problem with gays, so long as they don't showcase in that way. I'm pretty sure everyone around me finds it annoying, even gay people I know.

 

[Meight08]

In Holland we pride ourselves on the fact that we are the first country to ever legalize same sex marriages
90% view it as moral and we have 82% of the poplution saying gay-marriage should stay legal and even the most die-hard christian political parties oppose LGBT discrimination
Even better the amount of gay marriages are dropping because we have married most of them already.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

In Perth, Australia, i find people around my age - 17 - say they are homosexual (Or more commonly, Bisexual) as it is fashionable. Its like that Kony thing; People say that they are "X" to be with the "in" crowd.

I have met two homos in my life so far; Both gay, both in a relationship.

In the hundreds of people ive met, only two were gay. Most were people saying "IM BI COZ ITS FINE" or something.

It is from this that stems my Homo"Phobia"

On a related note, i hate that word. "Homophobia"..

I was under the impression that "Phobia" meant "Morbid Fear" Or "Irrational Fear".
I dont fear homosexuality. I just hate it.

Or am i reading that wrong?

EDIT: I feel that i should point out that the last two or three times ive posted on a homosexuality topic, ive gotten "Warnings" from moderators for "Protecting Minority on the Escapist".

First of all; people who report me for voicing my opinion? You suck. DX

Secondly; I find that being against homosexuality is actually in a minority here. By reporting me for being against "Me bashing Minority" means that you are in fact, bashing my Minority.

Thirdly, this is my opinion. By giving me (Yet Another) warning, you negate my opinion, making and hope of this thread becoming a discussion lost. A one sided discussion isnt a discussion, after all.

Finally; I aint trollin', dont bother reporting me for that either.