How many pathetic video gamers do you know?

[SillyBear]

By cutting out every other parts of peoples post you prove that you didnt show interrest in the rest. Its a bit like say, listening in real life to a guy having a speech. Then when he is done you pick at the fact that he used wrong grammar in second sentence from top.

Sorry you have a problem with me directly addressing the only part of your post that was worth replying to.

I will not do it to you in the future!

 

[EradiusLore]

Gaming really is dangerous. I can't think of any other entertainment based hobby that chews so much time and can completely destroy a person. I don't know any bookworms or film buffs that are as pathetic as these people.

Be safe people! Game in moderation.

Mate, the reason I didn't reply to the rest of your post was because it was full of stuff like this. Thank you, Captain Obvious. If I really believed games were sign of the devil and that everyone who uses them is anti-social, I wouldn't be a signed up to a gaming website, would I? I'm sorry you misinterpreted me, but the stuff you are posting to me is really really not anything like what I was saying.

oh ok, well point out the bit i misinterpreted as pretentious, ignorant and altogether nothing like what you were saying.

wouldn't be: "Gaming really is dangerous." or "can completely destroy a person" or maybe " I don't know any bookworms or film buffs that are as pathetic as these people."

remember the owning up to your own responsibility thing i talked about? well saying one thing then denying it when someone calls you out is covered under that.

 

[SillyBear]

I'm calling them as I see them.

Have a look at this video. I know it's old and long, but it does present a relevant counter-point that might open your mind a bit:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5327497459334792260#

Ah, let me just pop my edited post here, and if you have a problem with that you can call me names again, thus proving you are the most intelligent person here.

I am in favour of gaming in moderation. Like most things. Spending 12 hours a day in game isn't healthy.

That's really all I'm saying. I'm sorry you misinterpreted me due to my poor wording of my words.

oh ok, well point out the bit i misinterpreted as pretentious, ignorant and altogether nothing like what you were saying.

wouldn't be: "Gaming really is dangerous." or "can completely destroy a person" or maybe " I don't know any bookworms or film buffs that are as pathetic as these people."

remember the owning up to your own responsibility thing i talked about? well saying one thing then denying it when someone calls you out is covered under that.

I edited that post about 15 minutes ago and gave an explanation for my poor choice of words. Drop it.

 

[SillyBear]

Such a shame when a thread gets derailed into a game of back and forth...

I agree. The people here are really good at doing this. It doesn't matter how many times you try to explain that you poorly chose your words, they'll keep replying to you and keep insisting you are ignorant and (insert cliched "intellectual" insult here).

I don't really know why they can't just address the OP instead of talking about a post I edited and corrected 15 minutes ago.

If it makes her happy, who are you to judge?

This point has never made sense to anything to me. If someone is being self destructive, their friends have the imperative to step in and help them out.

By the way, my friend is actually incredibly unhappy at the moment. I know this because I am her friend. I'm pretty sure you don't know her, but maybe you do. Who knows.

 

[Vault101]

this is why Im not into MMO's I can see myself becoming like this

 

[Appleshampoo]

From what I've gathered from the posts you've made, it can be summed up with something like this -

'This girl isn't living life the way I feel she should any more, and thus it's bad. Please help me stop her from living her own life and come back to living life how I say it should be lived.'

Forgive me if I'm way off the mark there, but that's what it seems to me.

However, I'm willing to be it's just a case of very bad wording and not getting your real point across which I'm guessing is this -

'This girl used to be really close to me, now she's become a recluse and I'm really getting worried she's going to forever screw her life up and never be happy in the future and this isn't right.'

Anyway, I was a lot like you have described her to be. 12+ hours a day on Warcraft, never went out blah blah blah. Well, I barely went out anyway, but whatever. For some people like me, socialising on a game like Warcraft is FAR more enjoyable than doing it in real life. I generally just don't like people and the cruel things they can do with little to no reason.

I too found love on Warcraft once, and that lasted for over a year. Although we did only live a 30 minute drive from each other, so that's a bonus I guess.

But anyway, after being addicted for so long I finally had enough and just kinda...stopped being addicted. I've never understood addiction personally, I either do something or I don't.

So I cut my play hours down, got a job, met a new girl, had a baby, and now...well, still doing the baby part.

I still play Warcraft, quite a lot, but never does it come before reality to me now. Kid wants something? Log off and away I go to save the day as Super dad. And so on.

While I get you're worried, perhaps the best you can do is just be patient and hopes she does what I did and just decides to focus on real life, or maybe play with her to spend some time with her?

If all else fails, hope she plays PvP server, roll the opposite faction and gank her until she rage quits forever.

 

[pearcinator]

Just 1 of my mates but he has aspurgers so he has a reason for being a strange pathetic young man.

 

[SillyBear]

I edited that post about 15 minutes ago and gave an explanation for my poor choice of words. Drop it.

well tbh its not even a half decent explanation for spouting a load of **** in a very general and misinformed way about A LOT of people. your an idiot. at least when im wrong i have the guts to come out and say it, and when im being a pretentious **** insulting god knows who i have the goodwill to apologies for being a tool, but i guess thats what makes me different from you.

oh and P.S. stop miss quoting me, if your going to gut peoples well formed arguments so you can nitpick little parts then at least have the decency to put peoples quotes in the correct quote box

I apologise for being an idiot and having no good will for human kind. I also apologise for the crisis in Darfur. I love you.

 

[Corekrash]

Just thought of another one for this topic. Some years back I knew a guy in my old guild who would play during every single free hour he had, to the point that he would literally pass out from exhaustion. Fortunately, some months later he landed a job and reprioritized his life, only playing for a few hours in the evenings. He never gave it up, but I honestly didn't think he would change and I was happy to see him turn things around

 

[EradiusLore]

I apologise for being an idiot and having no good will for human kind. I also apologise for the crisis in Darfur. I love you.

im going to ignore the obvious sarcasm in there and say good! dont do it again

 

[Nikolaz72]

By cutting out every other parts of peoples post you prove that you didnt show interrest in the rest. Its a bit like say, listening in real life to a guy having a speech. Then when he is done you pick at the fact that he used wrong grammar in second sentence from top.

Sorry you have a problem with me directly addressing the only part of your post that was worth replying to.

I will not do it to you in the future!

I ment generally.. Nitpicking is not seen as a positive trait on online forums. . . Especcialy not this one. I cannot imagine a forum that actually features people that enjoy those replying or quoting them nitpicking.

 

[Latinidiot]

Gaming addiction really is dangerous. I can't think of any other entertainment based hobby that chews so much time and can completely destroy a person. I don't know any bookworms or film buffs that are as pathetic as these people.

Be safe people! Game in moderation.

Edit: a lot of people are trying to pick debates with me over the way I worded this post. I am pointing out the fact that gaming addiction is dangerous and millions of people (and many on this website) are affected in negative ways by it - lots of the time they don't even know it.

tl;dr:


I am in favour of gaming in moderation. Like most things. Spending 12 hours a day in game isn't healthy.

Moderation is and always has been the magic word.

 

[Tharwen]

I don't know anyone like this, but that's probably because almost all of my friends are at school and have parents to keep them active. I used to play with a friend but stopped because I got bored. Now a load of my school friends are starting again and pressing me to join them. I don't really want to because I hate the idea of only playing one game for months at a time again.

I know a few people who met their current boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse in World of Warcraft, if that's what you mean. I don't play it anymore, but there's nothing inferior about socialising in World of Warcraft (or another MMO) vs going to parties or whatever you want her to do instead.

Sorry, that's just not true. There's far more to conversation than just talking, and besides, chances are that she only talks to the same group of people every day and that's not likely to be fulfilling at all.

 

[Mavinchious Maximus]

I used to be addicted to the total war series after my dad died (very recently to be in fact) I used the games to cope with his death by not thinking about it.(Really don't like thinking about the fact that one of my closest living relatives died suddenly out of no where.) But one day I realized that my life was going no where. So I socialized with friends I kept on hold for five months.

Tragic events will always change your life. It mite take one to change your friends life OT.

 

[Corekrash]

By cutting out every other parts of peoples post you prove that you didnt show interrest in the rest. Its a bit like say, listening in real life to a guy having a speech. Then when he is done you pick at the fact that he used wrong grammar in second sentence from top.

Sorry you have a problem with me directly addressing the only part of your post that was worth replying to.

I will not do it to you in the future!

I ment generally.. Nitpicking is not seen as a positive trait on online forums. . . Especcialy not this one. I cannot imagine a forum that actually features people that enjoy those replying or quoting them nitpicking.

I'd like to think there is such a place on the internet. A hideous ragebot dumping ground filled with nothing but heated, yet ultimately pointless, fighting over even the most trivial things.

 

[Fiery Killer]

Honestly, you seem a little too concerned about how others enjoy their lives.

Now, I used to be just as bad as this person. I had a relationship online who was on the other side of the country (I was in North Carolina at the time with her in Arizona.) and I lived the same lifestyle as her. I interacted with friends I met online and our conversations were not at all limited to the game, and we didn't interact on just WoW itself. (Added on xbox, messengers, myspace etc., yes this was back when people used myspace.) And we really got to know and enjoy each other's company.

Eventually I broke up with her for reasons unrelated, and people stopped coming on each for their own reason, so I ended up quitting. Afterwards, I found a group of friends in real life, and got a real girlfriend.

But honestly, am I any happier now than I was back when I isolated myself at the computer? Not really. Back then, I never complained. I was content with my life.

My point is, don't bash on a whole lifestyle that you've never at all experienced nor understood. Even if her life is a complete wreck, if she's happy that way more power to her. In the end as long as we're happy with our lives not much else matters.

 

[Therumancer]

First of all: This is not an attack thread. The word pathetic is used here in its literal sense and I am not attacking video gaming or anyone here.

Recently, a friend of mine has gone from the title "gamer" to being just plain pathetic. She, like many people, has fallen into the grasp of World of Warcraft. She plays the game all day, has met a "boyfriend" on it (who doesn't even live in the same country), and constantly puts real life as a secondary to the video game.

There's an event on? She can't go, because she is doing a raid. More and more she refuses our offers to go and socialise and have fun. I recently visted her house and it was really, really sad. Nearly every anecdote she tells is WoW related, and I am starting to dislike being around her.

She has almost entirely escaped into video gaming. She doesn't need to do anything now. She doesn't need to try and find a male, because she has this "boyfriend" online. She doesn't need to find work or anything and she is on government wages.

I find myself getting angry about the whole situation. It's downright awful and she has turned from a fun, hard working person into a lazy, moody and selfish (and if I am being honest, pathetic) person.

So, I'd like to ask the question, do you guys know anyone who is like this? Are any of you yourself like this? Also, if anyone is feeling kind, any advice on what I should do here in regards to my friend? Why did this happen to her?

Sorry to bring the tone down with an unhappy thread, but I'd love to talk about it! This really is the down side to gaming and it is something we should all discuss.

Well, like everything it's a matter of perspective. What you are describing is a pretty typical hardcore, or serious gamer. It's important to understand that gaming, especially MMORPGs can be a hobby as opposed to something that someone "also does". This is also incidently why hardcore gamers tend to look down on people who don't put in the same kind of time and dedication and yet want to be able to succeed in games as well as they do.

To be honest, I think the problem your having is that people simply change, and her interests no longer coincide with yours. This can happen with a lot of things other than gaming. As time goes on, this might change again, but as things are now, you need to either accept that or move on. Being judgemental about it says more about you than it does about her.

As you point out she's in a position where she's no longer working, and apparently obtaining income from another source like social security or unemployment, I'm gathering something more akin to the former if this is a permanant-type situation. People who get into positions like that generally find hobbies, which can include gaming, or have their existing hobbies take on a new life. Indeed it's probably a good thing in most respects, as people who can't find something to invest the energy they had when they were working and such tend to wind up in even worse places.

That's just my opinion on the subject from what your saying. It seems to me that your issue is largely that you don't share the same interests to the same extent, so as a result you disapprove of someone giving those things their attention as opposed to you and the things you want to do... but I can only go by what's being said here.

But then again also understand that my career such as it was went down the toilet, I'm disabled, and spend stupid amounts of time and money (money I can only spend by living at home) on things like gaming, with no clue what kind of shape I'm going to be in within the next decade. I can easily see how someone goes from being a massive geek to well... what
your talking about. With that comes perspective and I think your being far too judgemental. If your friend is unaware of the situation, it's one thing, it's another when it's happens with understanding, for good or ill.

 

[KaosuHamoni]

Just 1 of my mates but he has aspurgers so he has a reason for being a strange pathetic young man.

I take offense to that. I have Asperger's, yet, you don't see me spending all day, every day playing WOW or Guild Wars.

It's no excuse, and, essentially, you're saying that everyone who has Asperger's, is a strange, pathetic person.

That's a rather large demographic to insult, you know.

[sub]Note: I have played WOW. For 1 hour. I got bored, and decided that if this if the best that MMO's have to offer, then I don't like MMO's.[/sub]