The song is wrong, all that Canada really did in 1812 was hold the line against the American invaders until the Brits finished up with Napoleon and came back to lay the smack down on those upity colonials.PumpItUp said:And the White House burned, burned, burned,
And we?re the one?s that did it!
It burned, burned, burned,
While the president ran and cried.
It burned, burned, burned,
And things were very historical.
And the Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies
Waa waa waah!
In the War of 1812!
- The War of 1812 by the Arrogant Worms
Be proud Canadians. We burned the White House! Why? Because the Americans thought that they could take Canada for themselves. And what did we do? Held up a lit match and said "FUCK YOU!"
Always makes me happy when I hear Americans who have no idea about the War of 1812. American politicians, so embarassed they refused to teach their children that the lost to the Brits and the Canadians. Heh heh.
Well pretty close! Considering Angles, Saxons, Romans, Vikings, Picts and Celts were all killing each other at the same time during some periods! I was going by general rulership of the country.scumofsociety said:Bold bits edited by me, apologies, doesn't look as clear as I though it wouldrossatdi said:Nicely caught. The Saxons having done a remarkable job of putting the Celts and Picts (Britons) to the sword. Isn't it something like:
Celts & Picts
Romans
Romano british
Saxons Angles (possibly before saxons, I'm not quite sure on this) & vikings
Saxons
Normans from 1066
Well, technically in 1812 it would be British Empire. Canada was merely part of us.PedroSteckecilo said:The song is wrong, all that Canada really did in 1812 was hold the line against the American invaders until the Brits finished up with Napoleon and came back to lay the smack down on those upity colonials.PumpItUp said:And the White House burned, burned, burned,
And we?re the one?s that did it!
It burned, burned, burned,
While the president ran and cried.
It burned, burned, burned,
And things were very historical.
And the Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies
Waa waa waah!
In the War of 1812!
- The War of 1812 by the Arrogant Worms
Be proud Canadians. We burned the White House! Why? Because the Americans thought that they could take Canada for themselves. And what did we do? Held up a lit match and said "FUCK YOU!"
Always makes me happy when I hear Americans who have no idea about the War of 1812. American politicians, so embarassed they refused to teach their children that the lost to the Brits and the Canadians. Heh heh.
If Britain didn't come and save out asses we would all be Americans right now, they would have kept coming and we would have eventually given up, we really had NOTHING to lose in that war and eventually we would have noticed that. The American's wanted to "liberate" us, not "conquer" us, despite the reality of the situation and probably would have treated us well upon victory.
Yeah, the late roman/dark ages were pretty much a free for all...rossatdi said:Well pretty close! Considering Angles, Saxons, Romans, Vikings, Picts and Celts were all killing each other at the same time during some periods! I was going by general rulership of the country.
No, we don't teach American history over here AFAIK (we have enough of our own without having to learn everyone elses), It's just what we pick up from...er...dunno, probably stuff like Sesame Street and bugs bunny cartoons. My knowledge of the revolution is entirely formed by a cartoon in which Bugs helps his nephew write a report on the revolution for school. He gets an F.Rajin Cajun said:In fact they have very skewed views which I can only take as their Public Education's form of Propaganda?
Well I think most people who know a little more (bearing in mind American history is not taught to everyone in the public education system over here) know that the US was politically mostly a three way split between Britain, France and Spain until the British Americans bought out the French and scared off the Spanish.Rajin Cajun said:I find that most people especially Europeans who claim to know American history usually don't. In fact they have very skewed views which I can only take as their Public Education's form of Propaganda? I have heard from more then one person that America was made up almost entirely of English Puritans when the English were only a minority irregardless of how the Founding Fathers were a majority English they just happened to be more educated then the average Dutchman, Frenchman and German who were here in droves already. Also the Puritans were considered a rather bizarre fringe group religiously in America and didn't really leave the New England area until they pretty much died out.
Maybe it is just the people I have happened to talk to but there are some very crazy views of America's History.rossatdi said:Well I think most people who know a little more (bearing in mind American history is not taught to everyone in the public education system over here) know that the US was politically mostly a three way split between Britain, France and Spain until the British Americans bought out the French and scared off the Spanish.Rajin Cajun said:I find that most people especially Europeans who claim to know American history usually don't. In fact they have very skewed views which I can only take as their Public Education's form of Propaganda? I have heard from more then one person that America was made up almost entirely of English Puritans when the English were only a minority irregardless of how the Founding Fathers were a majority English they just happened to be more educated then the average Dutchman, Frenchman and German who were here in droves already. Also the Puritans were considered a rather bizarre fringe group religiously in America and didn't really leave the New England area until they pretty much died out.
I thought the French were more than willing to help anyone get one over on the British for free...revenge for us kicking them out of their colonies and just general European (proxy) warfare.rossatdi said:until the British Americans bought out the French
[a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase"]Well kind of.[/a]scumofsociety said:I thought the French were more than willing to help anyone get one over on the British for free...revenge for us kicking them out of their colonies and just general European (proxy) warfare.rossatdi said:until the British Americans bought out the French
Most Americans I've met have a pretty crazy view of their own history! (Lived in Ohio for a year).Rajin Cajun said:Maybe it is just the people I have happened to talk to but there are some very crazy views of America's History.![]()
Oh there is no doubt about it hence why I was all inclusive with my "crazy views of history" I have heard some rather bizarre tales from people who spout their nonsense as fact.rossatdi said:Most Americans I've met have a pretty crazy view of their own history! (Lived in Ohio for a year).Rajin Cajun said:Maybe it is just the people I have happened to talk to but there are some very crazy views of America's History.![]()
Interesting stuff. If only us Europeans weren't so set on slaughtering each other every 50 years or so we'd have pretty much the entire globe sewn up. *cries*rossatdi said:[a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase"]Well kind of.[/a]
One might argue that the combination of endemic warfare, high precipitation & resource levels as well as a Judeo-Christian social dynamic lead to them essentially controlling all of it!scumofsociety said:Interesting stuff. If only us Europeans weren't so set on slaughtering each other every 50 years or so we'd have pretty much the entire globe sewn up. *cries*rossatdi said:[a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase"]Well kind of.[/a]
I would definitely argue that. It's just a shame that we didn't quit while we were very much ahead.rossatdi said:One might argue that the combination of endemic warfare, high precipitation & resource levels as well as a Judeo-Christian social dynamic lead to them essentially controlling all of it!