How to ask a girl out (Operation 7)

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Canid117

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SimuLord said:
Canid117 said:
SimuLord said:
I was making a light joke to loosen up the thread but sure go for the super serious advice if you want.
Why should BonsaiK have all the fun?
... LOOK A BUNCH OF PUPPIES!



The Escapist is where its at for relationship advice on the web... for some reason...
 

Naheal

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Just fucking ask. The worst she can do is say "no" or potentially slap you. If she says "no", she's not interested. If she slaps you, either you did it wrong, or she's someone who's not worth your time.

Pirate Kitty said:
The same way you'd ask any friend out somewhere.

Treating someone you fancy like a special project is a bad idea.

They are simply someone you want to spend some time with to see where a friendship can go and if there's potential for it to be anything else.
This is probably the best advice here. If either of you, or both, are coffee drinkers, hit up a local Starbucks or something. It's socially intensive and you can actually get to know one another.

Protip: If you run out of things to talk about in the first fifteen minutes, you're better off as friends rather than anything significant.
 

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Good morning blues said:
Serious advice: don't ask her out, ever. You have too much invested in this, which a) sets you up for a more substantial disappointment and b) is both noticeable and unattractive.

You have put far too large an emotional investment into this girl that nothing has ever happened with. It is completely impossible that you will not be disappointed, either by the relationship not happening, or by the relationship not living up to your expectations.

Asking someone out isn't something you prepare yourself for; if you find someone attractive, you ask them out, and you do it before you get to be friends with them. Yes, you will get shot down. Pretty quickly, you'll realize that when you get shot down, you're no worse off than you were before you asked.
To be fair, this is heavily dependent upon the individual. Some are readily capable of having harbored significant interest toward one person, yet remained completely rational and nonchalant in the process. In the majority of cases, we are in agreement. I only seek to attach the aforementioned because it has been my experience. Of course, it is a rarity, and in regards to the TC, I am not certain it relates to his scenario.
Not only does the way the OP is written pretty much completely dispel that possibility, I very seriously doubt that it is a possibility with any individual.
 

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SimuLord said:
Canid117 said:
SimuLord said:
I was making a light joke to loosen up the thread but sure go for the super serious advice if you want.
Why should BonsaiK have all the fun?
Actually, it's the goatee. I have one too sometimes, and when I do, I pull like crazy. I reckon the chicks have all seen the cutscenes in the first C&C game, they know the secret buried power of some well-maintained facial hair.
 

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Canid117 said:
The Escapist is where its at for relationship advice on the web... for some reason...
I look at it this way---why mentor teens in a formal setting where some asswipe will say I'm being "inappropriate" telling it like it is? I'm like that cool uncle who comes over and tells you and your friends what's what---y'know, the one your mom hates and wonders "how could a guy like my husband have such an awful brother?"
 

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Yosharian said:
Will not work. Too soon. You're almost certainly on the friends ladder with this girl (at the moment). It's going to take a bit of hard work before you can ask her out on a formal date like a lunch/dinner.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE FRIENDS LADDER. The "friends ladder" is a myth perpetrated by guys who don't understand women and how to date them.

Ahem. Carry on.
 

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if your friends with her then just say "lets go to a movie when your free" or something along those lines, not too expenive as you may sound a bit desperate, just something cheap and fun, then see how things go from there...... i know what i said is easier said than done though, it can be really hard to pluck up the courage.

good luck man, hope you get some boob action in the near future ;)
 

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
MY PLAN NOW (Revised):
Engage in conversation, near the end, ask if she would like to get some lunch/dinner on meh... it must works!
Seriously when it comes to asking people out never under any circumstance have a 'plan' because it never works out the way you want it too, if your gonna ask her just do it it's gonna save you so much time and energy. Then when all is said and done the L4D tournament go just fine for you.
 

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Try and be casual. "Do you want to have some lunch some time?"

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I should try that myself, actually.
 

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Perhaps you could say you want to go somewhere (Cinema/have a coffee/eat out at pizza hut etc) and whilst your talking about were you want to go, ask if she wants to go and if she want's to bring anyone along. If she doesn't want to bring anyone else, it's a date, if she brings someone along, it's not a date, but you've spared her feeling awkward about rejecting you, and hopefully she'd appreciate you for that.
 

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Yosharian said:
SimuLord said:
Yosharian said:
Will not work. Too soon. You're almost certainly on the friends ladder with this girl (at the moment). It's going to take a bit of hard work before you can ask her out on a formal date like a lunch/dinner.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE FRIENDS LADDER. The "friends ladder" is a myth perpetrated by guys who don't understand women and how to date them.

Ahem. Carry on.
Just your opinion.
Wrong. If you're getting friends-laddered, you suck at getting women.
 

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ok. im a fourteen year old, who beleives i cannot date yet. there is a girl who i beleive as well i am madly in love with. she talks to me. i talk to her. this is all after last year i asked her out on valentines day and was shot down. even if she says no, you can still be friends, which in term can lead to something happening. just go with what you think is right. dont listen to us "smart" people
 

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Why do you need to straight up ask her out?

Why not hang out for a day or so even with friends, see if she's into you in any way.

Then ask her if she fancies going for coffee/ice cream/food/to see a movie/anything with you......so it's just the 2 of you.........see if she still likes you.

Then ask her if she wants to take it further/ask her out.

At the end of the day she can only really basically say yes or no(whatever she says will boil down to a yes or no answer)
So all this planning and building yourself up could be for nothing if she already doesn't want to go out with you OR because you spent so long 'planning' that she decided to go out with someone else which it sounds like has happened the previous 5/6 times!?



TLDR man up and ask her =P
 

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
ShadowDude112 said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
ShadowDude112 said:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.239740-I-need-your-help-Making-my-head-work-again#comment_form

ShadowDude112 said:
I asked a girl out on Friday. I just told myself I could do it and also told myself to not be a pussy. There you go. Hope that helps.
I had to quote myself. Same basic thread. Just ask her out. It's not rocket science, it's not brain surgery, it's not rocket surgery and it's not brain science. It's not that hard. Just do it.
I had to sort of repost it... I didn't really like that one, I feel this one heads it off better.
You have two things you can do. You can either post in this thread http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.117161-Relationship-problem-thread?page=1 or you can stop being a pussy and just ask her. Your choice.
You don't understand how much I want to stab you for that post. (Joke) I posted that one 2 days after she broke up, I am atleast waiting 2 weeks. If I don't I will have a 99% chance of getting shot down midflight.

dont joke. he deserves it.
 

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WrongSprite said:
Movies are suicide, you want to actually be able to talk to her.
Seconded, at a date you are meant to be able to show your personality. At a movie, you are essentially sitting silently next to each other, all attention put on an outside source, no eye contact or interaction. No real opertunities for escalation (because the whole puttting your arm round her thing is stupid). Recipe for awkwardness.
Whatever your date is, make sure that its easy to touch her. Not in a creepy way obviously. If you are going out for a coffee, sit beside her not opposite, maybe avoid dinner. Go to the park or something.
The reason for this is that you want to escalate to build attraction, or else you will be left in the friend zone. Escalation just means taking it to the next level, but this can be on a very small scale. Touch them on the arm frequently (but not for a creepy length of time), if you are crossing a road, hold their hand. As the date progresses, just keep building up. Touch their face, hair, stomach, lower back, hug them, high five them, tickle them, whatever seems appropriate.
This will work if AND ONLY IF you don't come off as creepy, and the best way to do this is have a playful vibe about yourself. Alternatively, make the touches very brief and have no "value", ie. if you are going to touch them on the arm, don't look at your hand, don't let it linger, make it seem natural etc.
THE REASON FOR THIS: When you finally want to "seal the deal" (ie. go in for a kiss), you want her to be comfortable with you touching her. If going in for the kiss is the first time you are really getting close, then it will come off as being wierd. The whole point of escalation is that it gives a natural progression.

Digi7 said:
Okay, MASTACHIEFPWN...

Just by your username and the fact you are participating in a Left for Dead 2 tournament are enough for me to assume you're a bit of a dork.

However, cuteness ALWAYS wins over being a confident badass in any girl's books whos worth being with. Don't get me wrong, be confident, but not a jerk. Be romantic, kind, funny and sensitive. If you have wanted her for this long just tell her that, it will make her feel special. Make sure you look good on the day you ask her. Shave, cut and wash your hair, wear nice clothes and smell nice. Don't stutter or fidget. Just relax.

Take it easy, don't seem to eager, it will put her off. Just ask softly, preferably just as you part. It's easier on the both of you. If she wants to say no, or wants to think about it, she has time to come up with an answer. It is NEVER fair to put someone on the spot, and she may say something she doesn't really want, which will make it harder for both of you.

Which brings me to my next point: There is NO point in having a relationship that one of you does not want. Don't labour the point.

If you have liked this girl for this long you are obviously very emotionally attached to her. Don't let yourself be crushed if she says no. Accept it, learn to let it pass, and move on.

And my most IMPORTANT TIP:

ALWAYS BECOME EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO A GIRL BEFORE YOU ASK HER OUT.

Girls are very emotionally driven beings. First off, are you even friends with this girl? If not, forget about it, or at least hang out for a while first and get to know each other. If you are, what's the tone of your relationship? Can you identify that?

Good luck anyway, mate.
Some of this is ok advice but one thing I would say would be: How often (rom coms not witstanding) do you see the girl dating the confident badass while the "cute" guy sits on the sidelines pining about why this girl only dates douchebags when he would be so much better for her?
This is not to say "be a douchebag", but douchebags do often possess certain qualities that are attractive to women: confidence, spontaneity, humor, social proof (ie. large circle of friends). Similarly, guys attempting to be "cute" often mistake bad qualities (awkwardness, a submissive attritude, fear of escalation) for good ones. They will essentially make themselves, at best, the gay best friend, or anything from the best-friend-that-fancies-you to the lapdog. However, some of the qualites are positive, girls do like nice guys. However, its a very particularl kind of nice. The nice that you would be to your best friend, not the nice that you would be if you met the Queen/President.
The answer is to have the best of both worlds. Be confident, spontaneous and funny, but also have the good kind of nice, try and build an emotional connection.