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manythings

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I want to play it but have issues with the gameplay, and I cant play it until its atleast £25 becuase I feel BW need to lose money for cutting content to use as dlc.

So I will play it eventually, but the more I hear the more I hate.
Less that half of what you pay for a game goes to the developer. The rest goes to retailers, transport, storage and a dozen other things. The DLC is a measure to try and get people to buy new games over trade-ins which give a grand total of 0 to the developer.
I can pay £40 for a new game, just like others, and have to pay extra becuase I didnt get it before the 11th, how isthat fair ? iIts not buy new dlc, its bullshit.
Fadeshear and The lion of Orlais are the only things you don't get. The Black Emporium and it's quests, the Mabari Warhound and the other stuff on the Dragon Age site are still available. http://dragonage.bioware.com/da2/info/bonus_items/

BioWare/EA only gets about £18 of that £40 so you should reall be more pissed off at the retailer who is making about the same amount. They set the prices and could afford to sell for less, they just don't want to.
Sebastian isnt free, 560 mS points, like I aid its bullshit.
Which is part of the Signature edition along with the soundtrack and the in-game armory. That's not what you were talking about, that was for pre-ordering before January 11th. At no point is Sebastian necessary.
Yes and I pay the same price as them.
Neither is all the other crap, but you mentioned that.
A character > weapons.

Its bullshi, I didnt have the money then so now I pay extra.

Keep trying to justify it though, many BW fans have, I am sure letting them do crap like this will have negative effects when they realise its ok, and start going further, whats that you want to have a companion aside from the dog, money plz.
I didn't have the money either but places accept about $5 for any preorder and I paid off more when I could. You can't suddenly call them satan because you didn't want to do something, that's what preorder bonuses are for, getting people to preorder. Every developer does it. You want to talk about bullshit check out the L.A. Noire preorder stuff. It depends completely on where you preorder and if you don't preorder from the right store you get miss out on extra cases and shit.
Pre orde rbonus are BS, a reskinned suot or weapon is nothing, but htiwas a character, who was 99% on disk, I could buy new just like others and have to spend 560 MS points on top, sorry but yor excuses for BW arent working.
Infact them doing this actually makes me want to get it preowned they try and fuck me over with content I will make sure they dont get any oney for thier greed.
Well see that's exactly why they are doing it, because of the trade-in market. You're not actually a customer of theirs so they don't give a shit what you think. At best they don't care about you, at worst their going to keep making more and more exclusive content until trade-ins ARE as content free as you say they are.
I would be a customer if it wasnt for them disciminating I didnt pre order at the time.
They can keep doing that, people will just make it so they loose more than they gain by buying pre owned. Doint make it aout as though its my fault BW are being dicks about his, they werent dicks then I would buy full price, new.

I love how you defend themtoo, your doing a great job at ruining gaming, keep it up. (activision is the same as BW (evil greedy bastards) yet they are hated BW have thier own private army.
They also have a blind rabid army of trolls who will scream and retard out as hard as they can if they try to, you know, run a business. The difference between us is I get how economics works. They offer a product or service I want and so I purchase it. Once they cease to do that I will cease purchasing.
 

manythings

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this isnt my name said:
manythings said:
this isnt my name said:
manythings said:
this isnt my name said:
manythings said:
this isnt my name said:
manythings said:
this isnt my name said:
manythings said:
this isnt my name said:
manythings said:
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I want to play it but have issues with the gameplay, and I cant play it until its atleast £25 becuase I feel BW need to lose money for cutting content to use as dlc.

So I will play it eventually, but the more I hear the more I hate.
Less that half of what you pay for a game goes to the developer. The rest goes to retailers, transport, storage and a dozen other things. The DLC is a measure to try and get people to buy new games over trade-ins which give a grand total of 0 to the developer.
I can pay £40 for a new game, just like others, and have to pay extra becuase I didnt get it before the 11th, how isthat fair ? iIts not buy new dlc, its bullshit.
Fadeshear and The lion of Orlais are the only things you don't get. The Black Emporium and it's quests, the Mabari Warhound and the other stuff on the Dragon Age site are still available. http://dragonage.bioware.com/da2/info/bonus_items/

BioWare/EA only gets about £18 of that £40 so you should reall be more pissed off at the retailer who is making about the same amount. They set the prices and could afford to sell for less, they just don't want to.
Sebastian isnt free, 560 mS points, like I aid its bullshit.
Which is part of the Signature edition along with the soundtrack and the in-game armory. That's not what you were talking about, that was for pre-ordering before January 11th. At no point is Sebastian necessary.
Yes and I pay the same price as them.
Neither is all the other crap, but you mentioned that.
A character > weapons.

Its bullshi, I didnt have the money then so now I pay extra.

Keep trying to justify it though, many BW fans have, I am sure letting them do crap like this will have negative effects when they realise its ok, and start going further, whats that you want to have a companion aside from the dog, money plz.
I didn't have the money either but places accept about $5 for any preorder and I paid off more when I could. You can't suddenly call them satan because you didn't want to do something, that's what preorder bonuses are for, getting people to preorder. Every developer does it. You want to talk about bullshit check out the L.A. Noire preorder stuff. It depends completely on where you preorder and if you don't preorder from the right store you get miss out on extra cases and shit.
Pre orde rbonus are BS, a reskinned suot or weapon is nothing, but htiwas a character, who was 99% on disk, I could buy new just like others and have to spend 560 MS points on top, sorry but yor excuses for BW arent working.
Infact them doing this actually makes me want to get it preowned they try and fuck me over with content I will make sure they dont get any oney for thier greed.
Well see that's exactly why they are doing it, because of the trade-in market. You're not actually a customer of theirs so they don't give a shit what you think. At best they don't care about you, at worst their going to keep making more and more exclusive content until trade-ins ARE as content free as you say they are.
I would be a customer if it wasnt for them disciminating I didnt pre order at the time.
They can keep doing that, people will just make it so they loose more than they gain by buying pre owned. Doint make it aout as though its my fault BW are being dicks about his, they werent dicks then I would buy full price, new.

I love how you defend themtoo, your doing a great job at ruining gaming, keep it up. (activision is the same as BW (evil greedy bastards) yet they are hated BW have thier own private army.
They also have a blind rabid army of trolls who will scream and retard out as hard as they can if they try to, you know, run a business. The difference between us is I get how economics works. They offer a product or service I want and so I purchase it. Once they cease to do that I will cease purchasing.
Funny you claim that, yet support a company who is cutting content for more money. Paying more for less dosent exactly scream knowlage of economics.
Enjoy thinking your better than others though.
Oh you got me... here I was thinking I was clever, buying the preorder that offered the most content at the lowest cost... what a fool I was with my basic numeracy skills.
 

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I just met Merrill. I'm in love. :)

Not sure how I feel about the button mashing, but the combat is much more engaging because of it. On the flip side, if you're not careful and get caught up in the moment, you could end up distracted and dead.
 

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I've only played a couple hours. I got to the Dalish camp, which I thought was neat as the character I imported was my Dalish rogue from Origins, but they all have different voice actors and Scottish accents now!

This feels like a betrayal.
 

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I personally miss all the extra conversations with my teammates. Just sitting at the campsite and having hours of dialogue with my companions and such. It's still there, but only when the characters themselves wish to initiate it. I'm not saying that the characters are awful or anything, they are each unique in their own way. I just miss having random rambles with them whenever I felt like it.

So far though, I do love it.
 

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Maraveno said:
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First of all, to all the people who just post a one liner colling it "dumbed down", could you elaborate? I can't find much that's "dumbed down" at all, and many things have been vastly improved. Just stating you think "They changed it, now it sucks!" just makes you sound silly...

Now, back to the game. I was suprised at how my expectations regarding companions were quite mistaken. I was expecting to like Fenris, but he turned out to be an emo asshole. I was expecting to like Carver, but he turned out to be a raving douchebag. I was also expecting to dislike Aveline, but she's actually one of my favourites. Also, Varric is just pure awesome!
-The dialog is now summarized response text instead of the entire response.
-There are less ways to equip your character. Restrictions on non PC equipment
-Gift Giving isn't as open anymore.
-Fewer tactic slots
-Game takes place in basically one area
-Fewer skills. Herbalism, Poison making, trap making, etc. have either been removed or combined.



That's all off the top of my head......
the dialog allways was summarized response text you're a nutter with that comment (it's shorter yes but in dragon age origins one sentence usually qued 3 spoken ones)
Fewer tactic slots? have I been looking at a different interface?? and for that matter there are more spells and now also class combinations which makes micromanaging extremely more fun
yes it does take place in one area but the areas in origins usually were much less immersive
I mean do you play with a headset on I do and I can hear people whisper when I'm standing about for a second, I can hear people complain about things and doing things
Herbalism is still there rune making is still there applying runes is still there potion making is still there as is poison making

Your point is irrelevant and wrong you seem to not have played the game AT ALL from what Im reading here
No....just....no.

The dialog in DA1 was exactly what was said. There was no character voice, so you said what you selected. In DA2, there are some chat options where the words in text aren't even said. It's just an extremely over-simplified summary of it.

There are not more spells, feel free to count them all.

Every review out there claims the city to be boring and bland. Don't claim your "opinion" is any more valid than mine about this. The city is boring, and nowhere near DA1 in terms of depth.

The skills are simplified, removed, or combined. You seem to not trust me, so go ahead and read some reviews. They all claim the exact same thing. Maybe you didn't play DA1 deep enough.



You're just a fanboy who for some reason feels the need to insult people for their opinions. Thanks for calling me a "nutter". It really makes you look mature.
 

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Just not a good game, not much I can say that others haven't and hasn't been said in reviews. The biggest drawback is the idiotic world set up. You unlock some areas in one city and a few areas around it and then those are the only places you can go....really? I just keep visiting these same areas the whole time, it's just not fun or epic or engaging.

None of the allies were interesting to me, at least not nearly as much as Mass Effect or Origins, in those i would find out everything about my companions and it was fun, not DA2.

The other big problem was the story...there was no overarching story, unless I missed it? In fact after getting 15 hours into the game, I hadn't seen a single Darkspawn since leaving for Kirkwall. I just ran around doing these stupid quests, almost none of them were actually interesting.
 

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Maraveno said:
Sabiancym said:
Maraveno said:
Sabiancym said:
Jandau said:
First of all, to all the people who just post a one liner colling it "dumbed down", could you elaborate? I can't find much that's "dumbed down" at all, and many things have been vastly improved. Just stating you think "They changed it, now it sucks!" just makes you sound silly...

Now, back to the game. I was suprised at how my expectations regarding companions were quite mistaken. I was expecting to like Fenris, but he turned out to be an emo asshole. I was expecting to like Carver, but he turned out to be a raving douchebag. I was also expecting to dislike Aveline, but she's actually one of my favourites. Also, Varric is just pure awesome!
-The dialog is now summarized response text instead of the entire response.
-There are less ways to equip your character. Restrictions on non PC equipment
-Gift Giving isn't as open anymore.
-Fewer tactic slots
-Game takes place in basically one area
-Fewer skills. Herbalism, Poison making, trap making, etc. have either been removed or combined.



That's all off the top of my head......
the dialog allways was summarized response text you're a nutter with that comment (it's shorter yes but in dragon age origins one sentence usually qued 3 spoken ones)
Fewer tactic slots? have I been looking at a different interface?? and for that matter there are more spells and now also class combinations which makes micromanaging extremely more fun
yes it does take place in one area but the areas in origins usually were much less immersive
I mean do you play with a headset on I do and I can hear people whisper when I'm standing about for a second, I can hear people complain about things and doing things
Herbalism is still there rune making is still there applying runes is still there potion making is still there as is poison making

Your point is irrelevant and wrong you seem to not have played the game AT ALL from what Im reading here
No....just....no.

The dialog in DA1 was exactly what was said. There was no character voice, so you said what you selected. In DA2, there are some chat options where the words in text aren't even said. It's just an extremely over-simplified summary of it.

There are not more spells, feel free to count them all.

Every review out there claims the city to be boring and bland. Don't claim your "opinion" is any more valid than mine about this. The city is boring, and nowhere near DA1 in terms of depth.

The skills are simplified, removed, or combined. You seem to not trust me, so go ahead and read some reviews. They all claim the exact same thing. Maybe you didn't play DA1 deep enough.



You're just a fanboy who for some reason feels the need to insult people for their opinions. Thanks for calling me a "nutter". It really makes you look mature.
wait so since hawke does speak you are telling me it's wrong to short.... never mind that's just ridiculous the answers you give in DA: Origins allways get more replied than you chose for in the first place
I counted spells and sorry but you're a loser since dragon age 2 actually has ALL the old spells and then some more depending on the character you're playing
the only things gone are reaver and blood mage as far as i've seen it but your personal character specializes different from your team and I've only played a rogue so far so they might still be in there and it's logical story wise to assume why they wouldn't be in there
Most user reviews as you said so far haven't anything to go on since they were made so fast they can impossibly all have gone through the entire game like you think they did

The skills are simplified in that you dont have to wait for a resource to pop up anymore you just find one and it remains found

I don't trust you on that cause I've shown you that you were wrong, the only thing that I have found so far to be missing is trap making but Traps themselves are still there in game and nobody actually genuinely used the traps ever and that's why they were removed cause people complained about itbeing a useless skill


I am not saying you're a nutter for your opinion I am saying that you're a nutter since you just bypass the most important thing in the entire endeavour being facts
I like how you say you've counted them, but don't actually give me a number....Dragon Age Origins has over 100. I've yet to see a spell screen from DA1 with over 100 spells on it. And no, Dragon Age 2 does not have all the spells from Origins. The entire Arcane Warrior line isn't there, and I don't think Battlemage is there either....so stop making things up. If you insist to keep doing so, I'll prove you wrong when I'm off of work and I can get in game to take screenshots.

Taken from Gamespot's review since you think I'm making things up.
It's in the non-combat skills where Dragon Age II takes a step back. Herbalism, trap-making, poison-making, and other skills have been removed or restructured. There are still poisons and potions, for example, but to buy them, you must discover recipes for them and come across resource nodes as you explore. Then, you can order them from a merchant or at your home. Stealing, survival, coercion--these aspects are gone, as are those introduced in Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening, though runecrafting was restructured in much the same way poisons and potions were.
Are you going to try and tell me that gamespot is wrong and all of the above really is in the game?


You can disagree with me about the game's quality. But don't flat out lie, because you'll end up looking stupid when you're proven wrong.

P.S. lrn2punctuate
 

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I'll just say that I'm enjoying the combat a lot. I'm playing on nightmare and this game is way, way harder than DAO on that same level. The complaints about this being a hack&slash must be coming from people who haven't went beyond normal difficulty tbh.
Combat requires tactical finesse but still delivers action-wise on nightmare.

If you misplace your rogue or caster, he'll get knocked back constantly by enemy melee users and archers making it so he / she will die without being able to do anything, so positioning is pretty vital.
Some random fights will rape your ass a couple of times before you get them because another group of enemies that you didn't expect spawns on top of the first group and you weren't prepared.

I just fought an (optional) dragon boss at level 9 that took me 10 tries to get through and a different party set up. I ended up kiting away the last 10% of its health with my rogue switching to a bow and it felt like I had beaten some sort of raid boss in an MMO when it went down.

However, the game also has some problems that are likely caused by rushing the release: aoe targeting on PC is hell, there are frequent hiccups (though manageable) etc.
Companion characters also aren't as deep and engaging as they were in Origins and I'm not convinced by the fixed armor sets for them, I have to vendor tons of items because of that.

You also visit the same areas a lot of times, more variety would really do well. This is also caused by the game taking place entirely in one area of the Dragon Age world however.
 

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It's a great game overall, my only real complaint is that most of the places (caves, houses) are copy pasted. Seems pretty lazy on Biowares part.
 

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I love the game, the combat is much smoother, unlike in Da 1, where you always felt like you need one tactic to beat them all, spawning spells and skills for minutes for some fights and as soon as you just made one mistake you went down the drain not to mention the many luck chances that made a sure way to win into a sure way to loose, now combat is still a challenge, but heck is much more forgiving, but still, if you run blindly in Bows blazing and sword hacking you will loose anyway.

Like the fact that the spells now show the radius around them and in fact love the skill system with its upgrades to certain spells and with the character specific skills, instead of this "approve" skill bullshit they pulled in the first game.I like the Rival and friend System as well, it actually made the game better, now you are not constantly thinking "omg will this answer lower the approval of char x and make me loose his skill", no you can finally play and say the way you want to play and if that happens to turn other chars in rivals, well they won't leave and they still get a skill for it.

I "kinda" miss the camping site, but you still can visit and talk to other chars, so it is just split up a bit, characters still talk to each other and even have some cut scenes here and there.

I haven't played that long for now, just around 6 or 7 hours, but I agree the story is slow, however I like it that way, I hate all those Rpg's where you are the HERO and there is noone except YOU, who can save EVERYONE from >insert game endboss here<.
Its a story about survival, getting used to a new place and living and learning there, I think there is a lot more behind this story than many people give it credit for.

For the trap and poison making and such, honestly who ~ever~ used the trap skill to build a trap, who used poisons, warming salves and all that crap?
The now centralized and much easier access to the system still require to explore the maps, but you don't need to run around looking for a freaking elfroot, because you just used it up, but you desperately need one for a quest, to get a few exp. Points.