I betrayed my fellow PC gamers...

[roflcopter788]

halo is a great game but the
problem is all 3 are basically the same game

 

[TOO S0BER]

The only console I've ever owned was a NES, a looong time ago. I'm a PC gamer through and through and regularly preach the superiority of PCs over consoles. I've been playing games for a long time, and with FPS games I've been onboard since Wolfenstein 3D.

Recently, my curiosity was sparked by all the Halo bashing that's been going on around here. I've been taught to think of Halo as an inferior copy of what PCs had a long time ago. Very few of my friends have consoles and they generally express their distaste for console FPS games when instigated. So I decided it was time to see how bad it was. I went out and rented Halo: Combat Evolved for PC. After coming home I installed it and started it up. Several hours later, I realized how much time had passed and also...

...I was having fun. A lot of fun. I like Halo

The game flows nicely, looks good for its age, the weapons are satisfying, the story is decent enough, the protagonist is archetypical but does his part. The two weapon system is fairly nice and I don't remeber seeing it in older PC games. Likewise with the shield system. Vehicles are fun enough. The enemies actually exhibit some degree of intelligence. For a game from 2001, it's pretty damn good.

So, why exactly are people bent on slamming this game? Am I missing some fatal flaw in its design? Do the sequels take a turn for the worse? Or is it just a force of habit?

Well first of all you get Trolls that like to argue for argueing's sake. Next you get Wii and PS3 fanboys who flame Halo because it's Xbox 360 and PC only (I think deep down they wanna play it and they cant). For some reason I can't imagine a lot of people hated Halo 2 for some reason and they judge Halo 3 a little too harshly based on Halo 2. I honestly don't know why people hate Halo 2. I thought it was pretty good with the plot twist with the Covenant (Avoiding spoilers in case you decide to rent Halo 2 for the PC). I guess people didn't like playing as *character name censored for spoilers* in half the missions in the game.

 

[TMAN10112]

Halo and it's sequals are fun. Their not as good as many if not most other high end games, but it's really enjoyable when your playing with a few friends. I still don't see why people rank on the game as if the had some personal vendetta agianst the it(or bungie) for some reason.

 

[TOO S0BER]

I don't understand why there's such an ugly stigma with liking the game and series. Like most people, I never went out proclaiming its glory to the mountains. I bought my special edition copies, played it online without incident(mute button is a beautiful thing), enjoyed the series, and eventually moved on to something new to take my interest.

Games aren't a holy crusade about who's right or wrong and how persons who use consoles for gaming are inferior, drooling idiots. Live and let live, or at least take the stick out of your ass about other people's interests. Dane Cook still sells out arenas doing his stand up, but that doesn't mean that I need to be out there picketing people and letting them know I think their comedy preference is stupid.

Totally agree with you. Not quite sure why PC gamers, PS3, 360, etcetera think their platform is best. Each system has its goods and bads. Ps3 is expensive, has very few titles (that are exclusive that is), but has very nice graphics and a good engine. 360 Has possibly the strongest lineup of games but it tends to break....often. Wii is interesting because of it's controller setup and i don't hear much about it breaking. Wii is more family oriented and therefore, imo, doesn't have a lot of good games (again that is IMO), but because it's Family oriented titles are not going to be very good from a teenager standpoint that likes blood and gore. PCs are a bit tougher. Pcs have, maybe, the BIGGEST lineup of games as it has stuff from Xbox, PS, and Nintendo, along with it's own exclusive stuff. But the problem with PC gaming is your computer needs to be up to date and that is EXPENSIVE as hell. And it also takes a fairly knowledgable standpoint on technology. I.E. installing and stuff (Yes, clearly i don't know a lot of the technical stuff). And as a rebuttle for Consoles, you don't need to worry about installation issues for consoles. But yeah, I think the main reason why people get so upset is because, and im like this too, there are titles on other platforms that they can't play. There are titles on the PS3 i'd like to play, but cant. I don't totally FFFFFFF on the PS3 though. I just go "oh well. Maybe (emphasize on Maybe) i'll buy a ps3 one day."

Another problem is people are so unaccepting of other's opinions. But as far as internet forums go, that's a given. And that's just how people are and I don't think that is ever going to change. Well...as far as gaming goes and there are still separate platforms at least.

 

[Caliostro]

Death is too fucking nice for people like you.......



... jk... Seriously, if you like the game, enjoy it, best of luck with it. I don't get this retarded unwritten "law of loyalty" towards gaming systems... And operative systems... And everything nowadays... If you like the Wii but think LittleBigPlanet is the best thing sliced bread, good for you. If you have a PC and think Halo is sex in binary form, then by all means.

Also Halo DID come out for the PC, so it's also a PC game... Which makes this thread ultimately moot...

 

[The Wooster]

The only console I've ever owned was a NES, a looong time ago. I'm a PC gamer through and through and regularly preach the superiority of PCs over consoles. I've been playing games for a long time, and with FPS games I've been onboard since Wolfenstein 3D.

Recently, my curiosity was sparked by all the Halo bashing that's been going on around here. I've been taught to think of Halo as an inferior copy of what PCs had a long time ago. Very few of my friends have consoles and they generally express their distaste for console FPS games when instigated. So I decided it was time to see how bad it was. I went out and rented Halo: Combat Evolved for PC. After coming home I installed it and started it up. Several hours later, I realized how much time had passed and also...

...I was having fun. A lot of fun. I like Halo

The game flows nicely, looks good for its age, the weapons are satisfying, the story is decent enough, the protagonist is archetypical but does his part. The two weapon system is fairly nice and I don't remeber seeing it in older PC games. Likewise with the shield system. Vehicles are fun enough. The enemies actually exhibit some degree of intelligence. For a game from 2001, it's pretty damn good.

So, why exactly are people bent on slamming this game? Am I missing some fatal flaw in its design? Do the sequels take a turn for the worse? Or is it just a force of habit?

You know, this is a nicely written, funny post but Jesus fucking Christ with a fucking jetpack use the god damn search button. There are more topics on Halo being under/over/super/rated than actual members of the forum.

Also. I agree, I'm a PC user ubermensch and I still appreciate Halo's A.I.

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Even discussions on the subjective can be refuted; otherwise, what would separate P.D.Q. Bach from J.S. Bach? Kenny G from John Coltrane? The Fall of Reach from The Satanic Verses?

The objective knowledge that they're different?

 

[I Stomp on Kittens]

I liked the second one the most cause it was the first one i played....and never stopped playing

 

[yonsito]

Halo did get a lot of hate for the lazy port. It ran very slowly even on powerful machines and didn't even look that good (compared to other pc games). It looks a lot better on the pc than on the xbox.

It's a fun game, you don't have to feel guilty about it.

 

[Ace of Spades]

I betrayed PC gaming a while ago after it betrayed me. Three bad ports in a row was more than I could take, but if you found a fun game, then more power to ya.

 

[The Wooster]

Even discussions on the subjective can be refuted; otherwise, what would separate The Fall of Reach from The Satanic Verses?

Actually now you mention it, very little. They're both self indulgent monstrosities masquerading in the flesh of murdered trees.

 

[Wicky_42]

I absolutely loved Halo 1 back in the day - easily the best shooter (I knew of/had played)at the time, and even now I'll play the better levels for nostalgia and coop fun (Library, Legendary, AR and pistol only or Assault on the Control Room, or Silent Cartographer all stick in my mind to this day).

Halo 2 was less interesting and whenever I get it out to play I sit there and think 'what level do I want to play? err - which one was good? err...' The multiplayer was ok, and the faster shield regen helped the game flow more.

Halo 3 worked story-wise for me - maybe I just got into it more than most seemed to have, and so I loved the single player - though I have to say I don't own it, just completed it a few times. Playing Halo 3 with a bunch of mates just freaking rocks though - so much customisation, so many game modes... Predator style games are awesome (fast juggernaut with perfect camo, plasma sword and spartan laser ]... though that's not hard to work out

All three games had decent AI, capable of taking cover to regen shields, clamber over objects to gain better arcs of fire, and in Halo 3 synchronise grenade attacks - which are freaking awesome when you see it happen on you - awesome and full of pain. Let's be honest - that's far more than CoD offers, just to throw a name out there.

Having said all that, I'm a PC gamer now, don't own anything other than my beloved N64 and a rickety old original Xbox, both mainly for nostalgia (F Zero X is by far the best racing game in existence... imo.

There's nothing wrong with liking games that people like to slag off, and often people like to band-wagon against a certain thing just cause there's a wagon there to band on. Halo might not be original in any aspect, and might not have taken huge steps forward in gameplay or design over its series, but it does a type of first-person shooting very well, and refined it over the course of its run, and for that it shouldn't be slammed.

 

[Lancer723]

People slam it because of the people that hail and worship it.

It is an acceptable game, but if people see people on one end of the scale then they have to run to the other end for no reason other than they want to seem different but end up falling into one of any number of generic categories.

This.

 

[geldonyetich]

Seems to me that we lost touch with the real reason why we hate Halo.

The game is fine. You know, for a 2001 game, it was quite innovative, and stands as a decent enough game itself even today. You can still boot it up and get a decent play out of it much like you could Marathon before it: sure, it's not cutting edge by 2008 standards, but it's solid enough.

It was the XBL players, souring the online experience, that made being called a "Halo player" so degrading. We hated those XBL dweebs, never the game, but it seems some of us have lost this subtle difference.

 

[sneakypenguin]

I liked the second one the most cause it was the first one i played....and never stopped playing

I still play 2 over 3 and 1. I personally just thought the multiplayer was the best. It's easy to jump into, yet there are so many strategies to use.(plus the battle rifle was like the right hand of God. It may not be realistic, and it does have an auto aim but when I play with friends we have the most fun with it compared to anyother game.