I don't like the ESRB

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L3m0n_L1m3

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wolfgamesstudios said:
p.s. cortanas 'private areas' are barely even visible so wtf??
Sorry, but you kind of lost your credibility right there. I'm quite reminded of Mass Effect, which had a 8 second sex scene that showed NO nudity (aside from half a second of ass). If cortana showed any of her 'private areas', Halo would be pulled down, due to parents complaining. The ratings are there mostly to warn parents of what they're buying for their child. Normally they don't care, but if they do like some parents, they'll want to know.
 

Ajna

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Bored Tomatoe said:
I'm 15. My dad is cool. This enables the purchase of any game, because he knows that all of my innocence died the moment I started using the internet.
Different ages, same situation. ^.^
 

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I think there should be a rating between "T" and "M," like what they added between "E" and "T." The reasoning being that I think a lot of violent games are rated "M" because they're marginally worse than something the ESRB thinks a 13-year-old can handle.

Care to have any ideas on what to call this new rating?
 

skywalkerlion

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wolfgamesstudios said:
p.s. cortanas 'private areas' are barely even visible so wtf??
It's actually kinda funny, cos Cortana doesn't have any realistic no-no parts (as if she has a skin tight shirt on). Like, she doesn't even have a vagina and she's probably the soul reason the game got it's M rating.
Smagmuck08 said:
Enigmers said:
I think there should be a rating between "T" and "M," like what they added between "E" and "T." The reasoning being that I think a lot of violent games are rated "M" because they're marginally worse than something the ESRB thinks a 13-year-old can handle.

Care to have any ideas on what to call this new rating?
Uhh..is it E 13+? Sorry to come off arrogant, I'm just guessing >.>
 

VicunaBlue

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Well, looking at your post, you seem to be one of my easily-distracted, parent-hating teenage brethren, so this should distract you: "TITTIES! HELL! I SAID A BAD WORD I'M COOL AND TYPE IN ALL CAPS!"

Naw I'm not an asshole. This really isn't the place you should be whining. Alot of people here got made fun of in high school and take it out on younger people by being Grammar Nazis, and I shudder when I think of the thirty-years-olds here who think they have some kind of moral highground and take it out on anyone under 17. As for the ESRB, only shallow parents who don't know their children very well listen to it. If you really want an M game, get it from a friend or do bambi eyes.
 

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orannis62 said:
The ESRB is not perfect, but it's a necessary evil. Think about it: this VOLUNTARY organization decides to stop, then the government will step in. Do we really want Hillary Clinton rating our games?
This. Fuck Clinton
 

dtthelegend

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"are we NOT protected under the (second?) constitution to print/ read (make and play) freely?

lol because our forefathers believed that the right to bare arms should be the FIRST most important thing we could have. even before free speech.

/sarcasm

ESRB will be here forever. As long as there are mothers/politicians/tv stations/schools, there are those who will be in the ESRB.

Did you know that the people who MAKE the games participate in the rating aswell?
really. Look up the rating process.no really, ill wait.
See? its not so bad, you just have to be honest as a game developer.

And why does it matter if a game is M or if it's E or T? that's to HELP people from getting content that children aren't ready for. Period. Now, Im no nazi when it comes to games, I played perfect dark when it first came out and I was in middle school. But, there are some kids out there who would not be able to handle all of the new content coming out. I mean look at MW2. you can have the option of being a terrorist. Most little kids aren't ready for that.
 

HellsingerAngel

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I can understand some of the complaints put onto the table here. I also agree with some of the counter points.

The ESRB is awesome, that is solid fact. It's put some structure to what games are published and has made it so America can have a wide veriaty of games. This can clearly be seen with consol games in the early 90s which were, for the most part, games that would only be rated T these days. Now we have a library as diverse as the people who play games. But, much like film, and what I can only imagine was the same evolution process, there needs to be restrictions to certain content for particular viewers.

However, I do agree that the ESRB needs to have clearer guidelines as to how games get their ratings. They certainly give a vague description of the consensus of experts, but there is nothing stopping them from making some terrible mistakes in the process. The other thing the confuses me is the ages on the higher ratings. Why are M games rated 17? Some of the content is grosely over what most children should be allowed to see, while other games barely cross the threashold of T rating. I think it would be more suitable for M to be rated 16+ (Halo), then have the adult rating come into play more often at 18+ for truly horrific games (Gears of War).
 

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THIS THREAD MUST GO DOWN!!!

OT: If I only posted that I would of got a probabtion.
EvenMoreOT: Yes ESRB gets in the way of my gaming needs but I only need to be 3 more years older for the M thing to be a thing of my past. I think your Halo thing is true in some points. The first time you see Cortana in Halo she's not naked. In fact it looks like she's wearing "cyber" clothes. Also the swearing does happen and you can hear the swears. Hit a marine? "B**terd" Violence can't be seen to much but shooting a gun is violent. Violent video games don't need blood! Its because of the guns!

This is a rant thread but a very good one as well.


Bottomline: One single thread won't change anything. Also, is this thread made beacuse you can't play Halo?


P.S. Welcome to the Escapist!
 

lacktheknack

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If you're so sure that it's fine for you to play, then just play.

I played Mass Effect at 15. I saw the love scene at 15. My parents didn't really care.
 

InfernoJesus

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I buy my games from a small gaming store that completely ignores ESRB ratings and sells mature games to 10-year-olds. Because of this, I don't care what the ESRB does.
 

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wolfgamesstudios said:
-snip- and wtf is up with banning games? thats so stupid!! are we NOT protected under the (second?) constitution to print/ read (make and play) freely? -snip-
For starters, the Second Amendment is the right to bear arms in order to keep the local militia in working order. I think you want the First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech. Although I don't stopping little kiddies from playing games because it will (supposedly) warp their fragile minds (debatable) falls under the 1st Amendment. The 1st Amemdment guarantees no censorship or limitation from the government. They aren't censoring games and the things are getting bought (except by anyone under age whatever)so the government won't intervene.

Anyway, the moment you hit the right age (whatever it is in America, 18 in Britain) you stop caring
 

Phoenix Arrow

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DistinctlyBenign said:
I'm 21.

I don't care what rating a game has.

EDIT: Also, you clearly don't understand the constitution if you think this falls under the second amendment.
I like you. :D

On topic. People like the OP make me angry. It's people like that which give gamers a bad reputation. You're not 18 (or 21 or whatever). It's not up to you to decide what's suitable for you. If it was then any kid could just pick up Manhunt, play through it, murder some school chums etc. The concept is identical. We all had to live with it until we got old enough so you should do too.
Actually, I haven't been ID'ed for anything ever. Well, apart from getting into clubs but they ID everyone so meh.
 

Teh Ty

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If it didn;t exist, there would be a ban on video games. And if you can;t get it, buy it somewhere you can't
 

Et3rnalLegend64

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Have you seen the lawsuits that idiots can make? You definitely want the ESRB, even if you can't play your M rated games just yet. The alternative is that every game features rainbows and the most violent thing you can do is hug someone. Put up with it. If you're so adamant, then try to convince your parents that you're mature enough to play. Otherwise, you have to just wait.

And cool it a little too. Everyone else said that we're gonna make fun of you for acting (and typing) like the stereotypical, immature, prepubescent brat on Xbox LIVE.