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jasoncyrus

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domble said:
Sorry for the sensationalist title, but I really want to discuss this idea I've had.

I was thinking[footnote]These thoughts were in no way aided by ANY illegal substance. Honest.[/footnote] about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.

This means that anything that can happen will happen.
Statistically speaking, doesn't this mean that there must be a God? Or at least something approximately the same?
I mean God is, what, a creature that can manipulate matter at the molecular level?
It would also mean that every religion is the right one.

I'm not a religious man, I don't really mind if there's a God or not. But I just think it's something worth wondering about.

What do you all think?
By your logic that also means that I am every god that ever existed or concieved in a thought.

Nice try but no. Running along those logic lines you come to a wall of sheer reality shredding improbably where there are being that can penetrate any other realities, and realities that can never be penetrated. Thus resulting in a cataclysmic paradox/reality loop of constant atomisation&reformation.

Also, how the hell did you manage to change my signature with a link? Epic hax.
 

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jasoncyrus said:
domble said:
Sorry for the sensationalist title, but I really want to discuss this idea I've had.

I was thinking[footnote]These thoughts were in no way aided by ANY illegal substance. Honest.[/footnote] about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.

This means that anything that can happen will happen.
Statistically speaking, doesn't this mean that there must be a God? Or at least something approximately the same?
I mean God is, what, a creature that can manipulate matter at the molecular level?
It would also mean that every religion is the right one.

I'm not a religious man, I don't really mind if there's a God or not. But I just think it's something worth wondering about.

What do you all think?
By your logic that also means that I am every god that ever existed or concieved in a thought.

Nice try but no. Running along those logic lines you come to a wall of sheer reality shredding improbably where there are being that can penetrate any other realities, and realities that can never be penetrated. Thus resulting in a cataclysmic paradox/reality loop of constant atomisation&reformation.
Y-yeah...what he said.
 

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Supreme Unleaded said:
ELxSQUISHY said:
That is definitely one way to look at it lol.
seconded

Oliver90909 said:
Certainly undeniable. But someone has yet to prove he exists in this dimension!
also seconded.

Untill there is proof that he still exists in this demention and that alternate universes are acually proven, like proven not a theory, then i remain a objective athiest (or something like that, i can't remeber the real term).
Agnostic? Lol i remember it from hot fuzz.
 

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jasoncyrus said:
domble said:
Sorry for the sensationalist title, but I really want to discuss this idea I've had.

I was thinking about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.

This means that anything that can happen will happen.
Statistically speaking, doesn't this mean that there must be a God? Or at least something approximately the same?
I mean God is, what, a creature that can manipulate matter at the molecular level?
It would also mean that every religion is the right one.

I'm not a religious man, I don't really mind if there's a God or not. But I just think it's something worth wondering about.

What do you all think?
Also, how the hell did you manage to change my signature with a link? Epic hax.
It's his footnote, it appears at the bottom of quoted posts.

I've now deleted it.
 

domble

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guardian001 said:
domble said:
about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.
A cat in a radioactive box does not constitute concrete proof.
I'm not sure I understand the reference...

I did hear somewhere that every action or inaction creates an alternate universe, or something along those lines.
 

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Wow I never really thought of it that way...I've always been fascinated by the concept of alternate univeres and time travel (or a mixure of the two, wich is hard to explain what I mean by that) but, I never thought of it that way.

Either way I'm going to go steal a few things from other universes (the girl of my dreams, the universe where I have every video game and console ever, and tons of money, and the universe where I am the sexiest man alive.) Be back....eh...well never...I'll post from the other side, PEACE OUT!!!
 

TerminalVelocity14

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How about this?
If there were no God, there would be no atheists.
The point is that humans can create nothing. To create means to make from nothing or nothingness. We can't do that, even in our own heads. Try it now. Invent a color based on no other color in existence. Invent a sound or a type of animal. Can't do it? We need a frame of reference or a base to build from. So if there were no God, what could we build our belief in one from? Hmm? An immortal, all-powerful and all-wise being. What frame of reference do we have?

I don't know if you get my point or not.
 

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I don't believe in alternate universes. There really isnt any proof for it, in the sense you could use the same evidence to claim "aliens must have done this."

Which would make you a Scientologist, and thus, wrong.
 

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Your entire theory is based on the idea that there are even any alternative universes out there. And even if that were so, according to this theory, this would only explore derivates of our history - not change the very matter of existance so that Gods or magic could be formed.
 
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I think it makes an interesting argument. It's similar to the way that some scientists argue that the universe is infinite. This clearly should mean that whatever huge statistics you throw up against the likelihood of a race of bread people existing, in an infinite universe they must exist.

Then again, it is more likely to be the concept of an infinite universe that is flawed than the other arguments being right.
 

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What if in every universe each person in this one is a god, so there would be an infinite amount of universes with each person on this Earth with the world they imagine. It would be with every person ever born in the history of this mankind. And someone who was never born of this Earth but in another was the god of this one.

Look at me just ramblin' on.
 

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domble said:
I'm not sure I understand the reference...

I did hear somewhere that every action or inaction creates an alternate universe, or something along those lines.
Schrodinger's cat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat#The_thought_experiment], which is the only thing I can think of that comes even close to proving this sort of idea.

Edit:URl tag failed....
 

Berethond

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domble said:
guardian001 said:
domble said:
about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.
A cat in a radioactive box does not constitute concrete proof.
I'm not sure I understand the reference...

I did hear somewhere that every action or inaction creates an alternate universe, or something along those lines.
No, but because our universe has such a small chance of existing, that if just about anything was different nothing could exist. For example, if protons were .02% times heavier, they would destabilize and all atoms would cease to exist. The presence of "dark matter" always provides a lot of evidence towards the multiverse theory.

In short, their are two explanation on how we exist by looking at it on that level:
1) A benevolent creator.
2) Multiverse theory.

I read an article about it the other day, I'll see if I can find it.
guardian001 said:
You should read my post. I'll really try to find that article.
 

jasoncyrus

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Berethond said:
jasoncyrus said:
domble said:
Sorry for the sensationalist title, but I really want to discuss this idea I've had.

I was thinking about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.

This means that anything that can happen will happen.
Statistically speaking, doesn't this mean that there must be a God? Or at least something approximately the same?
I mean God is, what, a creature that can manipulate matter at the molecular level?
It would also mean that every religion is the right one.

I'm not a religious man, I don't really mind if there's a God or not. But I just think it's something worth wondering about.

What do you all think?
Also, how the hell did you manage to change my signature with a link? Epic hax.
It's his footnote, it appears at the bottom of quoted posts.

I've now deleted it.
Ahhh I understand now :)
 

domble

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Glefistus said:
guardian001 said:
domble said:
about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.
A cat in a radioactive box does not constitute concrete proof.
The box wasn't radioactive, the gas was.

Anyways, what proof i there, we only hypothesized there can be, Physics will always be theory thanks to the impossibility of seeing anything past the molecular level.
lol I need to reiterate that this WAS IN NO WAY ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUBSTANCES WHICH HAD ENTERED MY BODY.

The idea just stuck with me for some reason, I don't feel I can discuss it face to face with anyone cos they'll think I'm mad.
 

jasoncyrus

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Berethond said:
domble said:
guardian001 said:
domble said:
about how we proved that there are an unlimited number of alternate universes.
A cat in a radioactive box does not constitute concrete proof.
I'm not sure I understand the reference...

I did hear somewhere that every action or inaction creates an alternate universe, or something along those lines.
No, but because our universe has such a small chance of existing, that if just about anything was different nothing could exist. For example, if protons were .02% times heavier, they would destabilize and all atoms would cease to exist. The presence of "dark matter" always provides a lot of evidence towards the multiverse theory.

In short, their are two explanation on how we exist by looking at it on that level:
1) A benevolent creator.
2) Multiverse theory.

I read a paper about it the other day, I'll see if I can find it.
As the old saying goes, life always finds a way. We'd exist...just in a radically different form.
 

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I'm not religious myself. I do think however that to think that there is no sort of omnipotent power out there is rather narrow minded. Just like to think that we are the smartest beings in creation is also narrow minded.

The universe is an incredibly vast place that we will not explore a fraction of a percent of in our life times. So i have no doubt that there is some sort of 'God' somewhere. Not sure if that was really on topic or not