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SilentVirus

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spartan231490 said:
What she did, is she had a specific target audience: teenage females.
Hmmm... I never realized being sexually brutalized, many attempts at committing suicide for the attention of a guy, and distancing yourself from family for a guy who DESPERATELY wants to drain your blood and life is appropriate for teenage females. I respect her for trying to break from the vampire norm, but she added too many clichés by doing so. It's just an easily controversial, easily criticized, easily clichéd book.
EDIT: I even read the first book.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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spartan231490 said:
I thought the movies were pretty good. . .
For book movies. lol
You do know the Godfather, clock work Orange, and to Kill a Mocking Bird were all based on BOOKS right?
 

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Right. It's well written to make money, not well written to be an aesthetically pleasing form of art. So yes. It's badly written.
 

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*facepalm*

Well... Everyone likes something, even if it is terri- I mean not up to my standards. I just wish everyone would stop talking about it.
 

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You know what, I don't really care if people enjoy the Twilight series. As far as I'm concerned, it's an average book series that some people enjoy and others don't. Like all books everywhere. I've never read the series, and I don't plan to anytime soon because I've no interest in it, so no one try to convince me. I'm serious.

But if anyone that's older than the age of thirteen tries to defend the Twilight movies, you seriously need to analyze your idea of what a good movie is supposed to be, then never talk/reproduce with anyone ever again ever. The end.
 

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It's not just that the vampires are sparkly. It's also poorly written, poorly characterized, poorly plotted, uninteresting, unoriginal and often unintelligent. The films are worse as they are also poorly acted, poorly cast, poorly directed and feature pathetic effects. I'm sorry, I know you're entitled to your opinion, but they fail every single test of a book or films quality.

Yes they are poorly written, doesn't matter who you're aiming it at, there are basic tenants of writing and she misses them all. You want a better writer aimed at teenage girls in more or less the same genre (IE: Fantasy)? Go track down some books by a woman named Tamora Pierce. Her Song of the Lioness Quartet and Wild Magic Quartet are her best. They're romance-based books aimed at teenage girls, but she has an interesting prose, well written characters and a unique and engaging world.

And I'm sorry to (evil) harp(o) on this (everyone who got the evil harpo reference, you're awesome), but if you're going to take away what makes them Vampires, why call them Vampires? Seriously, all they adhere to is the whole blood drinking aspect. Rewrite a few things, like why they need to drink blood, and call them something else and no one would think they're vampires. Because they're not.

In conclusion, you're entitled to your own opinion, but if you like teenage vampire romance and would like to see it better in every way, I recommend you check out a TV series entitled Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Not the movie. Never the movie. The TV show.

So to summarize: Yes they suck by the standards set down by...well everyone. If you want something better in the same vein, check out Buffy the Vampire Slayer and anything by Tamora Pierce.
 

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bahahahahahahahahahaa...hahahahaa sry just had to do that
But seriously if you to like something then to hell with the others.
 

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I honeslty don't care about Twilight. I dont hate it, I dont like it, I just dont care. The first movie I saw I thought was allright, and the second one I watched was a little boring.

You cant get pissed at someone for trying to rewrite a vampire or a werewolf.,
The only guidelines are that a wolf has to have wolflike characteristics and a vampire has to like blood and hate sun.

Its a book for girls, not guys. Your not cool if you hate it.
 

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I thought they were really good. except the second one which was 300 pages of depressing crap devoid of any real plot. and the movies arent very good. but overall the series is pretty good
 

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I found the first movie hilarious, and the trailer for the third movie made the dudes I hang with nod in approval.
I don't think people who like twilight are dumb, I just don't like the fan girls who will literally jump and attack those who say twilight sucks.

The only real thing that kinda ticks me is they freaking sparkled >.> I can understand if the light hurt them or they just psychologically couldn't go into the light, but.. sparkled? It kinda makes them into kittens when you say they sparkled, and vampires should never be kittens... or badgers..
 

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Tdc2182 said:
I honeslty don't care about Twilight. I dont hate it, I dont like it, I just dont care. The first movie I saw I thought was allright, and the second one I watched was a little boring.

You cant get pissed at someone for trying to rewrite a vampire or a werewolf.,
The only guidelines are that a wolf has to have wolflike characteristics and a vampire has to like blood and hate sun.

Its a book for girls, not guys. Your not cool if you hate it.
Its not rewriting. Its using a name to sell a product. Just as the title of this thread is used. This is a bad thing, things should stand on their own merits and not simply use someone/something elses reputation. A vampire has an attached stigma. The author removed all of this and created a character without flaws. I find this particularly unacceptable.
 

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As much as I dislike Twilight, I can't deny its popularity. I won't spend money on the series, since I read the first book and didn't like it, but I don't like ranting about it around people that do like it. I'll make fun of it for people that don't like it, but I believe that people should like what they like to.

The only thing I really hate about Twilight are the hardcore fans that don't understand that people are free to like and make fun when they want. I would wear a "team" t-shirt that says a different vampire name on it, but I'm afraid someone would attack me. That's pretty bad.
 

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Besides what it did to vampire mythology, there's also the fact that it's a love story about two characters that are more bland than chewing on cardboard. They "love" each other because one of them is pretty, and the other one has blood that smells REALLY good. Yeah, that's all that's important in a relationship. Doesn't matter if your partner is dumb as a post, or controlling and abusive.
 

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Oh my god I thought I was the only person on this site to like twilight. I've wanted to start a thread like this for a long time but always thought I would be ridiculed.
 

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I never have been able to understand why vampires MUST be scary. The myth may have been started that way, but it's just that...a myth. It looks at vampires from a different perspective...what is so wrong with that?

I liked the books more than the movie, though I generally like books more because they explain more. I am a fan of anything vampire though, I don't set standards.
 

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I read the first Twilight book while working at a bookstore. Not entirely awful, but it read like fanfiction for vampire novels, minus any decent blood, sexiness, or even halfway making sense (vampires do not fucking sparkle in the sun. They burst into flames. End of story.)

Really, I hate the fans. I worked the release of the final Twilight book, and by the end of it I wanted to leap over the counter of the cafe and strangle anyone who said the words 'vampires', 'awesome', or 'Edward'. Agh. Seriously, I'd hoped and prayed that teen girls had more sense. I was proven very very wrong, and it nauseates me.

I own a copy of Meyer's book 'The Host', and quite enjoyed it. Her take on an alien invasion was actually kind of cool.

But she took vampires and targeted a demographic that's overly impressionable.

Team Jacob? Team Edward? I'm on Team SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT YOUR SPARKLY VAMPIRES BEFORE I KILL YOU ALL.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Konrad Curze said:
So what you are saying is. Since her target audience is a bunch of fucking retards its okay that she just stole every single part of her books from far better authors without even trying to link her "plot points"?

No. Just no.
Please report to the concentration re-education camps for sterilising processing.

And as for the Mercedes whatever books. Yes, they are shit but they are relatively unknown compared to Twilight.
In fact most urban fantasy is utter horseshit but Twilight is the biggest fish in that foetid, open sewer pipe of a pond so it attracts the most hatred.
I am seriously going laugh in the face of the next person who claims that The Escapist is more intelligent or more enlightened or whatever. This website has about as much intelligence and tolerance for different ideas as an amoeba in an SS uniform.
I actually laughed out loud when I read this. So true! A great, big chocolate chip cookie for your excellent simile!

But yeah, don't expect to change people's minds one way or the other. If people on the internet have decided they like/dislike something, nothing will ever stop the tide of nerd rage while they try to defend their position, informed or not.

"Never fight with a pig. You'll both get dirty and the pig will love it."
 

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spartan231490 said:
I used that for the heading cuz I knew it would attract attention, and prolly hatred as well. That said, almost everyone I know hates twilight because the vampires are sparkly. I like the fact that Stephanie Meyer didn't just rewrite dracula, but decided to reinterperit the legends. Why does everyone jump on the fact that she did this? Nobody complains that the book Peeps changed the myths. Nobody complains that the Mercedes Thompson series and Alpha and omega series changed the werewolve myths. Is it just that these people are looking for some reason for thier hatred of the series?

Many people also complain about the books because they are "poorly written". This is not true. What she did, is she had a specific target audience: teenage females. Knowing this, she didnt waste her time trying to write with language or themes or dialogue they wouldn't understand. I have seen soooo many books with a good premise ruined because the author set their sights too high and was unable to write well enough to do what they tried to do. For these reasons, I respect Stephanie Meyers for being innovative, and for not trying to write a book in a way she was unable to accomplish.
I thought, hmm, this person must be different from all the other twilight idiots, why else would they be posting in the escapist, under the name "spartan". Then, you had to use 'prolly' on me, in the first sentence. That one word re-established my hatred, and I read the rest of the post in such.

Stephanie Meyer didn't recreate vampires, a recreation would be if she used scientific terms to explain long-held vampire lore, or if she added new lore, like say, dogs always freak out around vampires! (it's a crude example, but bear with me). What Meyer did, was butcher vampires, mixing and matching the parts she wanted. I once dreamt that I was a vampire, there was an explanation that the vampirism changed peoples blood patterns, in that vampires can't produce their own blood and so must drink others whenever possible, and that they lose any 'blood types' as their body converts any blood into a special 'vampire blood'. This blood is incredibly more efficient at pumping around the body compared to normal blood, and as a result, Vampires can run and jump and fight faster and higher and better then any normal people. That, was in a dream, when I was asleep, when my brain's logic centre was turned off, Meyer came no-where near that detail.

Immortality? Yes, so he can always look an Adonis (that word's out of the book)
Blood-feeding? Yes, but he can control his most basic instincts for survival
Can only feed on blood? No way! that'd be icky! They're vegetarians!
Dies in sunlight? No way, he becomes even cuter! tee-hee.

There are other books, targeted at teenagers. Catcher In The Rye, being hailed as a fantastically written book about alcoholism, rebellion and prostitutes for good measure. Just because you have a teenagers as a target audience, doesn't mean it has to be dumbed down. I'm only 17 and I've read such texts as Fight Club (which is actually incredibly theological), To Kill A Mockingbird and hell, I've even read a book over 1000 pages (it got terribly repetitive). You say that she 'dumbed it down for a teenage audience', but teenagers aren't that stupid, hell, kids aren't that stupid! Dr Seuss piled in themes and ideas that the reader picked up subconsciously. Subconscious reading, for 4 year olds, whereas in Twilight the reader gets told everything they need to know, lead along, pulled by the hand of Meyer, using such examples like "He was dreamy" or "He was an Adonis". Now, I'm not sure these are direct quotes, but they're uncreative enough to almost guarantee that Meyer used them.
 

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Actually, I don't hate Twilight or the fans as much as I hate Stephanie Meyer. It's her attitude toward the craft of writing, what she's created, and her fanbase that draw my ire.