I like twilight.
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I'm sorry but you fail at life people how like twilight. You guys are the reason why the last vampire movie that was decent is Daybreakers, and that wasn't even that good. So just shot your self or just don't see eclipse. Now I'm going to watch Blade 3 and Lesbian Vampire Killers. That's right they suck. then I'm going to watch Black Dynamite then Black Jesus. NO IT'S NOT OFF TOPIC you (unnecessary words).
Ok I usually avoid these flamalicios twilight threads.spartan231490 said:
Its not because I dont like twilight, its because I've had no contact with it. Vampires are cool, but I just havnt had one of the movies pass my way / or books.
Neither have I sought them out, because I know it is a contentious topic, and many who are into vampire stuff have lotsa hate for it.
I propose then that you try, in only a few lines to writing something which will convince me to seek out the movie/book and try it.
I started reading the books once. What put me off was Bella's inexplicable hatred for her father, especially her childlike insistence not to call him dad (though to be honest, I call my mother by her first name, though it's not out of spite).
I love my parents, and have none of the hate of authority that all peers seem to have. Whenever I'm around somebody complaining about their parents, it makes me uncomfortable and, more than anything else, sad that they're unable to connect with the people it should be easiest to connect to. So that's why I didn't like Twilight.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and in terms of the film, what was up with the climatic battle? Big, epic vampire battle, then Ashley Greene shows up and rips off the bad guy's head. Took her about half a second. Did Edward not think of this?
I love my parents, and have none of the hate of authority that all peers seem to have. Whenever I'm around somebody complaining about their parents, it makes me uncomfortable and, more than anything else, sad that they're unable to connect with the people it should be easiest to connect to. So that's why I didn't like Twilight.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and in terms of the film, what was up with the climatic battle? Big, epic vampire battle, then Ashley Greene shows up and rips off the bad guy's head. Took her about half a second. Did Edward not think of this?
You could write a dissertation on everything wrong with Twilight. It disregards the basic tenets of plot and story structure. It's filled to bursting with pointless and repetitive description. It misinterprets classic literature, specifically Wuthering Heights (a character study on relationships between mentally unstable people) and Romeo and Juliet (an outright satire of stupid kids doing retarded things in the name of love), then endlessly repeats those misinterpretations in lieu of depth or ideas. I could keep going for paragraphs.
But none of that matters. A series has every right to be terrible and people have every right to love it anyways. There will always be screaming fangirls. There will always be bad writers. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I hate Twilight for a very simple reason. It idealizes obscenely unhealthy and outright abusive relationships for a bunch of impressionable young girls who don't know any better. That is something I cannot overlook in the name of respecting other people's opinions.
Ugh, I really wish Twilight didn't piss me off as much as it does. It'd be so wonderful to not care.
Also, there's nothing wrong with placing supernatural beings like vampires and werewolves in high school romance settings. It's a decent idea that could get a lot of mileage with a decent writer. The sparkling vampires don't even bother me. Meyers can do what she likes with mythology.
But none of that matters. A series has every right to be terrible and people have every right to love it anyways. There will always be screaming fangirls. There will always be bad writers. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I hate Twilight for a very simple reason. It idealizes obscenely unhealthy and outright abusive relationships for a bunch of impressionable young girls who don't know any better. That is something I cannot overlook in the name of respecting other people's opinions.
Ugh, I really wish Twilight didn't piss me off as much as it does. It'd be so wonderful to not care.
Also, there's nothing wrong with placing supernatural beings like vampires and werewolves in high school romance settings. It's a decent idea that could get a lot of mileage with a decent writer. The sparkling vampires don't even bother me. Meyers can do what she likes with mythology.
The sparkle thing is more of a joke reason for hating it. When people are seriously discussing why they dislike the books is because either A) The writing was awful (I have not read the books so I can neither confirm nor deny) or B) The main character is in an obviously unhealthy relationship and is being glorified for it.
Oh and Stephanie Meyer apparently thinks her work is legitimately superior to every other work ever. Claiming that she is a superior author to Shakespeare. I am gonna have to side with Shakespeare on this one Stephanie. I may not have read any of your work but I have read some of his and it is almost certainly better than your shit.
Oh and Stephanie Meyer apparently thinks her work is legitimately superior to every other work ever. Claiming that she is a superior author to Shakespeare. I am gonna have to side with Shakespeare on this one Stephanie. I may not have read any of your work but I have read some of his and it is almost certainly better than your shit.
I've read the books and I support A, and you forgot C where Edward and Bell have very little personalities/character traits so anyone can insert themselves into their shoes and have their little fantasy.Canid117 said:
Am I the only one who would be a little creeped out if some random guy broke into my house and told me "I like watching you sleep."
I hated Twilight from the get-go. Hated the fans, hated the story, and hated Stephenie Meyer. However, one eventful day I decided to read Twilight so as to not be a hypocrite. I can't say I hate a book when I've never read it. So I read it and...i hated it. 
This is, however, just my opinion. If you like it, thats fine. It just isn't my cup of tea.
This is, however, just my opinion. If you like it, thats fine. It just isn't my cup of tea.
i personally think that the reason why ppl hate twilight is because the author takes what everyone knew about vampires and pretty much throws it out the window.
As a child (and ill assume with most kids) we knew what vampires were. they were smart, charismatic, manipulative, sadistic, complex, and just damn interesting. Now the author really only takes the most general form of a vampire (as in teeth strength and the want for blood) and leaves us with something that looks like a vampire (minus the damn sparkling) but does not act, or talk like one. twilight to me seems like ppl trying to act like vampires rather than what a vampire truly is. Yes, other other have stretched the idea of other great mythological monsters, like the wolf-man, but they usually kept the key ideals that everyone has grown up knowing with. What twilight has done with its incredible success is redefeine vampires in a horribly shitty way that seems like a shadow of what they used to be.
As a child (and ill assume with most kids) we knew what vampires were. they were smart, charismatic, manipulative, sadistic, complex, and just damn interesting. Now the author really only takes the most general form of a vampire (as in teeth strength and the want for blood) and leaves us with something that looks like a vampire (minus the damn sparkling) but does not act, or talk like one. twilight to me seems like ppl trying to act like vampires rather than what a vampire truly is. Yes, other other have stretched the idea of other great mythological monsters, like the wolf-man, but they usually kept the key ideals that everyone has grown up knowing with. What twilight has done with its incredible success is redefeine vampires in a horribly shitty way that seems like a shadow of what they used to be.
Its that she took something that's universally considered bad ass and turned them into, in a word, pussies. Find it odd that a character who's effectively immortal suddenly takes interest in a random chick, or goes to high school?spartan231490 said:
Writing to fill a given demographic is called literary hackery. It's called having standards. It's why the only children's book author that really gets any credit is Dr. Sues.
It's also funny because if what you're saying is true then S. Meyer is also guilty of collectively insulting her collective fan base because she felt they wouldn't understand it if she wrote above their reading level.
Really though, seven words to sum up the Twilight series- Mary Sue and her John Smith Vampire.
I don't like vampires. I like guys with big muscles who overcompensate with their hair and shoot energy beams from their hands. Don't know what I'm getting at? It's Dragon Ball. But to be honest, the only reason I don't like Twilight is because I hear so much about it. See when I hear too much about something I get pissed at it.For example: I hear so much about Justin Bieber that I'm sick of him because people just won't shut up about him. Maybe there are people like me and maybe there aren't. But you have to understand that this hate could be for some good or bad reasons. Like some people might hate just "because it's Twilight." You just have to learn to deal with it.
You... Like Twilight? I... I don't understand D:
I just can't stand Twilight... It makes me vomit, honestly.
I just can't stand Twilight... It makes me vomit, honestly.
You raise some valid points I just don't agree with them.spartan231490 said:
She did re-write these legends but think this through. Why would immortal beings be angsty? Angst is most commonly found in teenage females and JRPGs I don't think that lifetimes of experience and feeding on other people leads to angst. Also love is no real reason for angst after all vampires can hypnotize people if I remember correctly. One good re-imagining of vampires is Daybreakers version of them, if you're really interested in a new look at vampires check that movie out.
As for them being badly written I agree with you they are written to appeal to a certain audience. Only thing is the language of the teenage female is angst and most other life forms tend to find angst a bit ridiculous; especially when you consider that the real life Dracula had a fascination with impaling things from people to cockroaches.