I want the new gun that Colt is making

[Gilhelmi]

Lame. It's versatile and light. Super. Give me something that is not a pain in the ass to keep clean and works regardless of conditions. Sorry, but they lost me when they brought up the cleanliness issues. If it's being a pain in the ass in field tests, you can be guaranteed that they will be a pain in the ass during operations, and I think our troops have enough on their plates w/o worrying about their weapons barfing in a firefight.

From the article

A hot topic in the forthcoming competition revolves around the operating system. Some prefer a piston, which reduces the number of moving parts and provides better stability. But there is more metal on metal, which can accelerate fatigue. Others opt for a gas-impingement system, which is far smoother in operation and has fewer malfunctions because heat and carbon deposits are reduced. But this system requires a lot more elbow grease to get it, and keep it, clean.

Colt's solution is a hybrid that offers "the best of both worlds," according to Battaglini. The CM901 can use either a piston or gas-impingement system, but this third alternative uses a gas tube on the front and a piston that is dropped into the upper receiver with a rod running back to the bolt carrier. The result is better accuracy without all the cleaning.

It sound like it will implement a new system to cut down on the cleaning.

Ack I misread the article. Thank you for pointing that out.

No problem, it happens.

 

[Gilhelmi]

Op said he didnt want this thread to be about gun control or why people dont like guns, so I'm going to respect his wishes and decline to talk any further on the subject, Gun control threads are always exercises in futility anyways.

Can you at least tell me why someone would want a gun that is made for offensively killing multiple people?

Go to another thread if you want that question answered. Then PM with the thread title.

 

[vanthebaron]

my weaponphilia is acting up. damn that is a nice gun.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

Op said he didnt want this thread to be about gun control or why people dont like guns, so I'm going to respect his wishes and decline to talk any further on the subject, Gun control threads are always exercises in futility anyways.

Can you at least tell me why someone would want a gun that is made for offensively killing multiple people?

Go to another thread if you want that question answered. Then PM with the thread title.

Meh screw it... I just woke up so I'm grumpy and looking for a fight.

I'm sure this gun would honestly be fun as hell to bring to a firing range anyway.

 

[Wadders]

Op said he didnt want this thread to be about gun control or why people dont like guns, so I'm going to respect his wishes and decline to talk any further on the subject, Gun control threads are always exercises in futility anyways.

Can you at least tell me why someone would want a gun that is made for offensively killing multiple people?

I dont know. I wouldnt want one either, the only guns I own are for Clay pigeon shooting and mugging the occasional rabbit.

I'll guess its because military grade automatic or semi-auto rifles (I guess thats what you mean when you say "a gun that is made for offensively killing multiple people") would be quite fun to fire at a range, because of their rate of fire, accuracy etc and because they are probably interesting from a mechanical and technical point of view.

Happeh?

 

[Twad]

Meh. Nice idea, but you need to carry how many gun barrels with you? And american models have the reputation for being unreliable in the field..

Anyway, im more of a "bullpup" configuration fan (like what FN makes: P90 and the F2000 for example, plus IIRC the F2000 is ambidextrous and eject its empty shells under it, not on the side).
Bullpup weapons are more compact but keeps the same barrel length as "classic" rifles, looks cooler too imho.

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

Followed the link, was kinda disappointed. I understand the need for adaptability, but it seems like all we're doing nowadays is making modular versions of the same gas-operated rifles we've had around for decades. I'll need to see more innovation than quick-change uppers before I get excited.

 

[Wadders]

Followed the link, was kinda disappointed. I understand the need for adaptability, but it seems like all we're doing nowadays is making modular versions of the same gas-operated rifles we've had around for decades. I'll need to see more innovation than quick-change uppers before I get excited.

Yeah, and I thought that most modern armies have capabilities for long range fire, suppressive fire and close combat at squad level anyways, in the form of designated marksmen, SAW gunners, and soldiers already armed with carbines anyway.

So what is the point of guns like these, when troops are already carrying guns that are purpose built for performming these tasks?

 

[etherlance]

Yipee.
Looks like the US forces have a new gun to shoot their allies with.

 

[De-Moti]

I want one of those guns that goes bang.

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

Followed the link, was kinda disappointed. I understand the need for adaptability, but it seems like all we're doing nowadays is making modular versions of the same gas-operated rifles we've had around for decades. I'll need to see more innovation than quick-change uppers before I get excited.

Yeah, and I thought that most modern armies have capabilities for long range fire, suppressive fire and close combat at squad level anyways, in the form of designated marksmen, SAW gunners, and soldiers already armed with carbines anyway.

So what is the point of guns like these, when troops are already carrying guns that are purpose built for performming these tasks?

In formal units, yeah, but this would be geared more towards Special Operations groups where versatility is prized over specialization. Still, I'd be more impressed with a gun capable of serving multiple roles without needing to be broken down, instead of one that requires you to carry around an entire AR upper platform. I don't doubt that it's a very competent and useful rifle, but it's hardly a leap in firearm technology on par with what we've seen thus far.

 

[Erecting a Sentry]

I have no care for guns. What i want to know is why do people have a fixation with guns. There was a weapon i would like to have but not for violence but i can't for the life of me remember it. It was featured on future weapons. I just liked the premise of the gun.

Guns are fun. Theyre fun to fire, you can hunt with them, have target competitions with them, all sorts. Guns are a hobby, like fishing or tinkering with cars, hence some people's "fixation"

American rifles are usually good on the shooting range, but when in warzones the US soldiers prefer trophy AKs... Or so I heard.

Probably bollocks, I doubt their superiours would let them use AKs. They sound like enemy fire, and the US army wont issue it's men with the riht ammo for them.

They did in Nam' anyway. I remember seeing in on a program

 

[fix-the-spade]

The CM901 is a new rifle Colt making for the US Army that is being tested now.

Interesting rifle.
It's adoption (or lack of) will hing on whether it's cheaper and as reliable as other manufacturer's weapons. But mostly on whether it still has the M16/M4 series rifle's tendency to explode when the barrel is obstructed.

There's a reason the US Marines are buying M27s from H&K instead of more M4s.

 

[mechanixis]

To me spending money on a gun you'll never use feels like ordering a pizza to hang it on your wall. And I always get the impression that people who fantasize about military hardware also fantasize in the backs of their minds about shooting Bad Guys with it when the Government Collapses.

 

[Macgyvercas]

As much as I'd like to have one of every gun in the world, just get me one of these and I will be a happy man.

Spoiler

It may not look like much, but that thing can be loaded with either .45 Colt or .410 shotgun (or both at the same time, if you're feeling badass).

 

[Kiefer13]

It's a nice idea, but it isn't really anything new, is it? I'm pretty sure I've heard of modular designs that could change barrels and calibres before. Could be wrong though.

On the subject of cool guns, my personal favourite would have to be another gun by the same manufacturer, the Single Action Army. [http://www.farwest.it/FOTOxSITO/colt-single-action.jpg]

It may not be the most practical of guns, but it is cool.

 

[Quaxar]

If I ever come into possession of a Winchester '94, then my life will be complete. I will not rest till I own one. Theyre probably common as muck in the USA, but sadly I doubt that in the UK.

If you need help with that...

Call me old-fashioned, but that rifle is so much sexier than any modern one.
I'm also more of a sword-guy myself, but I'd give a 16th century rapier to own that Winchester.

 

[KSRTZ]

Wasn't the HK416 designed with the special forces?

And isn't it like the M4 without the flaws?

If so why not just buy a ton of those?