Important: The Pros and Cons of smoking ciggys and smoking weed

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Kpt._Rob

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Well, neither is particularly healthy. Cigarettes tend to work by psychologically manipulating people who smoke them, a friend of mine once described it as follows "it's like they take something from you, and then give it back to you, but you didn't realize they'd taken it in the first place, so you think they're giving you something." The high rate of addiction, and the cost that that addiction causes over time ought to be perfectly good reasons to avoid cigarettes.

As for marijuana, I used to smoke it myself, so, if I can briefly tell my story, perhaps it will make clearer why I feel marijuana use is inadvisable. I at first rarely smoked marijuana, maybe once every month or two (the first time I smoked it, I went in telling myself I was only going to try it once, and after that I wouldn't smoke it again), and I certainly didn't believe it to have addictive properties. That said, after I had smoked it I found myself constantly thinking about it, reliving how it had felt, and found myself jumping at any opportunity to smoke more. For people who never progress past this point, it is unlikely that marijuana will cause any problems, but for many people marijuana genuinely is a gateway drug (and I say that as someone who used to strongly oppose the gateway theory, even before I'd ever smoked anything). I eventually started buying my own, I dumped hundreds of dollars I couldn't afford into smoking equipment, and ultimately I started using harder drugs. By the time I finally decided to start getting clean I was using what I can only describe as research chemicals. I wound up financially crippled, even after I finished up detoxing I still constantly crave more so I can't go to parties because I know that if there are drugs there I'll use. I lost most of my old friends while I was using, and after I got clean I couldn't hang out with my new ones, which didn't make detox any easier. I have flashbacks now, as well as violent mood swings, my memories both from before and during my use don't even feel like they're mine anymore, and I'm constantly depressed. The point I'm getting at, is that marijuana may seem harmless, but if you're like me and after you've tried it, you find yourself regularly thinking about it, I would suggest you quit immediately, because the path that marijuana can start you on can take more than you even realized you had to lose.
 

Snow Fire

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tsb247 said:
Weed can indeed cause cancer. The simple fact is that humans simply weren't meant to take anything other than air into their lungs. It does the exact same thing to your lungs that tobacco smoke does and possibly even moreso due to the fact that a big 'ol blunt is rarely (if ever) filtered.
The chances of marijuana causing cancer are as likely as overdosing of vitamin C, it is very uncommon. The damage to the lungs from smoking marijuana is very minimal, with little to no effect of their normal function. Marijuana does not need to be filtered, it is all natural plant, unlike all the poisons jam packed in cigarettes, whose filter is useless as it does little to actually protect you from said poisons.

Weed is also addictive. I have seen people develop a dependency on it. The simple fact is that people get used to and want the greater high. Once people get that experience, they keep wanting it. I believe it's called a psychotropic addiction. Weed causes people to become dependent on the feeling and state of being it produces and not so much the chemical itself. To say it is not addictive is not entirely true.
Getting addicted to marijuana is very rare, dependency forming is only less than 1% of all American users of marijuana. Marijuana also has no real impact on a persons behavior.

It's also not too good for the brain either - at least in the long run.

While marijuana can in fact cause tumors to shrink, it can also create serious different health problems of its own - including cancer.
As the most modern medical tests for brain damage say, marijuana does no damage to the brain, and does not cause mental illnesses, nor psychological problems. However, temporary psychological problems such as panic, anxiety, etc., etc. have been reported in some users, but only last 2 to 3 hours. From what I understand, this is from ingesting the plant, instead of smoking it.

However, sometimes marijuana is laced with different drugs, like crack cocaine, and other hard drugs. This isn't a very common thing currently, but it could become a bigger issue, and could explain unusual side effects.

Atticus113 said:
Both are irresponsible and stupid considering the massive evidence of the harm they cause. Stay in school man.
I have honestly have not seen any medical or scientific evidence to suggest marijuana is bad, or has any real impact on a person's health. The only thing bad I have seen in my reading is that it has a limited impact on short term memory while smoking it, meaning learning and recalling new information was diminished, but this only lasts during intoxication. It does not have an effect on long term memory or other cognitive functions even when intoxicated.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Smoking keeps everyone around me safe and alive. I am slowly giving myself cancer so that I don't kill those around me.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that passive smokers inhale roughly six times more smoke than those who smoke themselves. Although passive smokers aren't inhaling tobacco smoke all the time, so proper smokers end up inhaling more over a longer period of time.
 

Steven McDriverson

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I've noticed that most of the people that I know use tobacco, just use dip. Cigarettes peaked in high school, but now everyone is carrying around bottles to spit in. It's just as disgusting, and I can't help but imagine them without bottom jaws. The pro: I can breathe
 

Abengoshis

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Weed
Pros: Short term fun.
Cons: Brain damage, Doing/saying things you don't want everyone to know, susceptibility to 'worse' drugs, getting caught and the consequences of that.

Cigarette
Pros: Short term relief.
Cons: Lung cancer, horrible breath, horrible smell, waste of time (have to keep leaving buildings (in UK you can't smoke in an indoor public area)), waste of money, coating your own house with disgusting crap (look underneath a mirror or a painting on your wall if you smoke indoors).
 

Caligulove

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Of Cigarettes?
Pros: You do look pretty damn cool... no sense in denying that, calms nerves
Cons: I'm pretty sure you all know, or has been said

Weed-
Pros: Anyone whos smoked weed, knows the Pros
Cons: The only cons are from an individual who already thinks they have nothing better to do than smoke weed. That's not the products fault, though. Im surprised that gamers would blame weed for things, since its like blaming games for things. It's non-addictive, can't give you cancer (or there are very few cases, not certainly from weed) and unlike Alcohol and Cigarettes- it CAN'T kill you.
 

Abengoshis

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SamFisher202 said:
tsb247 said:
Weed can indeed cause cancer. The simple fact is that humans simply weren't meant to take anything other than air into their lungs. It does the exact same thing to your lungs that tobacco smoke does and possibly even moreso due to the fact that a big 'ol blunt is rarely (if ever) filtered.
The chances of marijuana causing cancer are as likely as overdosing of vitamin C, it is very uncommon. The damage to the lungs from smoking marijuana is very minimal, with little to no effect of their normal function. Marijuana does not need to be filtered, it is all natural plant, unlike all the poisons jam packed in cigarettes, whose filter is useless as it does little to actually protect you from said poisons.

Weed is also addictive. I have seen people develop a dependency on it. The simple fact is that people get used to and want the greater high. Once people get that experience, they keep wanting it. I believe it's called a psychotropic addiction. Weed causes people to become dependent on the feeling and state of being it produces and not so much the chemical itself. To say it is not addictive is not entirely true.
Getting addicted to marijuana is very rare, dependency forming is only less than 1% of all American users of marijuana. Marijuana also has no real impact on a persons behavior.

It's also not too good for the brain either - at least in the long run.

While marijuana can in fact cause tumors to shrink, it can also create serious different health problems of its own - including cancer.
As the most modern medical tests for brain damage say, marijuana does no damage to the brain, and does not cause mental illnesses, nor psychological problems. However, temporary psychological problems such as panic, anxiety, etc., etc. have been reported in some users, but only last 2 to 3 hours. From what I understand, this is from ingesting the plant, instead of smoking it.

However, sometimes marijuana is laced with different drugs, like crack cocaine, and other hard drugs. This isn't a very common thing currently, but it could become a bigger issue, and could explain unusual side effects.
Are 1% of Americans users, or are 1% those who admit? xD
 

Snow Fire

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Abengoshis said:
Are 1% of Americans users, or are 1% those who admit? xD
Har, I see what you did there my friend.


"In laboratory studies, subjects given high doses of marijuana for several days or even several weeks exhibit no decrease in work motivation or productivity. Among working adults, marijuana users tend to earn higher wages than non-users."

I am being discriminated against, I should get equal wage even if I don't use marijuana. I demand justice for this injustice.

"College students who use marijuana have the same grades as nonusers. Among high school students, heavy use is associated with school failure, but school failure usually comes first."

I would be interested to know if their grades improve after heavy use.
 

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I'm surprised to see that almost no-one has mentioned that both make you smell like ass. I cant stand the smell of either. I'd rather be smelling the farts of a guy that ate nothing but eggs for the last week, than smell either weed or cigarettes.
 

Caliostro

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Pros: None.

Cons: A lot.

Honestly, it comes down to whether you prefer dying with lung cancer and barely able to breath (cigs) or brain damaged (weed).
 

SnootyEnglishman

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Cigarette's--addictive,causes cancer, but makes government tons of money therefore legal.


Weed--addictive, doesn't cause any known diseases, doesn't make government money so it's considered illegal.
 

Kie

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Well I've done both and still do weed but I'll try and be unbiased about this and throw my opinion into this.

Cigarette
Pros: Good stress relief, can be used socially, can actually do work after doing it
Cons: Addicting, horrible breath, increased chance of cancer, bad breath.
Conclusion: Personal preference with cigarettes really some people can have a couple a day and that'll keep them stress free and help them through the day while others need more and more and I've known people only 17 get through twenty packs in a day.

Weed
Pros: Can be good stress relif (Not always), gives a good high and a feeling of calm, in -small- doses can aid creativity, not as bad to your body as other substances
Cons: You will not do anything even if you want to if you've smoked that little bit too much, hard to tell what effect it'll have on everyone (Some people have a really good time while others find it horrible), very strong smell, illegal, debatable it could be a gateway drug (imo depends on the user), if used too often gives you a feeling of "I could be high right now, why aren't I?", can be laced with other shit, has sometimes been linked to psychological problems in longterm, can get a feeling of paranoia.
Conclusion: If you plan on doing any work, whether it's housework or school work do not smoke. If you want some creativity it can work for -some- (Key word) people if you smoke a small amount. Some people are happy with drinking while others, like myself, find it horrible and hate the taste and the feeling of when I get drunk and can never stay tipsy + horrible hangovers which makes it very hard when I get invited out to parties and only one other person other then me doesn't drink (Aside from stoners). If you do want to smoke don't do it too often (Know people who smoke it daily, they do nothing now and have gotten in trouble with police before) and be careful because it is illegal. With weed it either works for you or it doesn't and no matter how "Natural" it is you still are smoking and it still is bad for your lungs. Despite so many cons (Some are only potential or debatable) I doubt I'll be stopping anytime soon.

Hope input helped.

Edit: Oh and both can be very very expensive if used a lot. Depending on how much you smoke.