International view of the English?
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SirBryghtside said:I'm British. This is what we really look like:
Well, one of us anyway.
OH MY GOD the English are hideous RUUUUUUUUNN!
jk
I think of them as the characters from Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead. Like, even the supporting characters. I always viewed all the characters as sort of stereotypes of English folk.
As a scottish person my default response is "Inglish Baastaaaart!"
However, On the whole I like the english people I have met and as a whole, I presume most of England to be like Scotland but with different accents and slightly less liver damage.
Although I will say I hate the English media. Especially at World Cup time, I've had it with all the pundits and commentators mentioning 1966. It was over 40 years ago. England is an above average football team but they are not descended from heaven as some would believe.
On a related note, I'd like to point out The Sun's front page yesterday, which read England, Algeria, Slovenia, Yanks, spelling out "easy" vertically, implying that the USA was made of fail. Then the USA come top of the group.
But yeah, on the whole, I like England.
However, On the whole I like the english people I have met and as a whole, I presume most of England to be like Scotland but with different accents and slightly less liver damage.
Although I will say I hate the English media. Especially at World Cup time, I've had it with all the pundits and commentators mentioning 1966. It was over 40 years ago. England is an above average football team but they are not descended from heaven as some would believe.
On a related note, I'd like to point out The Sun's front page yesterday, which read England, Algeria, Slovenia, Yanks, spelling out "easy" vertically, implying that the USA was made of fail. Then the USA come top of the group.
But yeah, on the whole, I like England.
Way to lump us all in there bubba! My pasties are more interesting than me, I always knew it.DazBurger said:
Agreed.likalaruku said:
I meet a lot of English people on Xbox Live, I think they're absolutely awesome.
I'm a Canadian. I like to think of the British as they were in the Victorian era - that is, with long, well-groomed mustaches, monocles, and fancy hats, smoking pipes and reading the newspaper in front of an old-fashioned fireplace in a study somewhere. (by "study" I mean the sort of room you might find in a house that's full of books and used for, well, studying things.)
In England:
-Food sucks
-Cars drive on wrong side of the road
-There is rain
-There is fog
-Inches, foots, miles and other weird metric units.
-Food sucks
-Cars drive on wrong side of the road
-There is rain
-There is fog
-Inches, foots, miles and other weird metric units.
Ok well then I hate them currently basterds invading places that don't need invaded. Especially when you supply the weapons to the place.Danzaivar said:
It seems there are a lot of out of date stereotypes about the English/British:
1) London Fog - not since the clean air acts of 56 and 68
2) Bad teeth - not any more, dentistry is on par with other western nations
3) Monocles, handle bar moustaches, pink gin, bowler hats etc... wrong century. (although I am partial to a pink gin in the summer)
4) Imperialist - The majority of brits don't even think of themselves as british anymore, its either English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish.
However, I may drink copious amounts of earl grey... And I may at times have a slightly supercilious and sardonic sense of humour.
1) London Fog - not since the clean air acts of 56 and 68
2) Bad teeth - not any more, dentistry is on par with other western nations
3) Monocles, handle bar moustaches, pink gin, bowler hats etc... wrong century. (although I am partial to a pink gin in the summer)
4) Imperialist - The majority of brits don't even think of themselves as british anymore, its either English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish.
However, I may drink copious amounts of earl grey... And I may at times have a slightly supercilious and sardonic sense of humour.
By the rest of the Western world I guess you mean America? you do realise Obama hates us right?Nickolai77 said:
If people think we are posh gits:
Step 1
Spend 2 minutes with any chav.
Step 2
Times that by about 50,000,000.
step 3
Think again.
Step 1
Spend 2 minutes with any chav.
Step 2
Times that by about 50,000,000.
step 3
Think again.
Trebort said:
Whilst I (and almost certainly you) hate it when people throw around their credentials on the internet to act as a base for their arguments, I'm gonna come out and say this: I just spent the whole of last year studying the British political system, especially the Constituion of the United Kingdom
We DO have a constitution, but it is:
1. Uncodified - "not written down (on one document)"
2. Flexible - "bits can be changed to fit the times (unlike the American Con., which stuggles with an 18th-Century ruling on the possession of firearms in a modern society with modern weaponry)
3. Unitary - "the three 'parts' of government (Judiciary, Legislature, Executive) are interlinked" (i.e. the Ministers (Executive) are members of the Commons (Legislature)
Now, onto the main point of the argument: the Powers and Perogatives of the Queen
The Queen 'has' powers, but the government is also apparantly 'hers'. The government was, in the old days, originally an advisory body to the Crown, but later became its equal, and then its superior in terms of power over the governing of the country. The government uses the Queen as a figurehead to symbolise the political system. Any powers that 'belong to the Queen' are therefore used by the Government.
The Crown has no power. It had lost a lot after the Magna Carta in 1215, and lost even more after the English Civil War (and the temporary Republic (or 'Commonwealth') that existed between the Execution of Charles and the Restoration and Glorious Revolution). Afterwards, successive parliaments removed the powers of the crown. Queen Victoria was the last monarch who actually had any influence over policy.
An interesting point: Whilst the President of the USA is a more powerful figure, the Prime Minister, in terms of his personal powers and his ability to run the country, has more power. The Prime Minister, when his party wins a landslide like Blair in '97, is actually a form of Electoral Dictatorship, wherein, should he want to, Labour could have passed ludicrous laws such as "All Liverpudlians must wear a sausage on their head on Wensdays", simply because there was noone strong enough (politically) to oppose them when it came to votes.
Think of the "Queen's Speech". It is written by the PM to announce the goals and objectives of that year's parliament. The fact that it is read by the Queen and called the Queen's Speech is immaterial, as the PM and the Cabinet have ultimate and total control.
Just like the Queen's Speech, all the other "Crown Perogatives" are actually in the hand of Parliament, and these powers are used symbolically 'through' the Queen.
I challange you to place before me a single piece of evidence that actually gives weight to the notion that the Queen has any real power in Britain today.
P.S.
Saying 'She's the Commander of the Forces' is not evidence, as it is quite clear that she is used symbolically (Also, the Army is not actually under the control of the Queen at all, even symbolically, as the British Army is the ancestor of the New Model Army which fought against the Crown in the Civil War
I believe the English are nice people who enjoy a cup of tea and think of Americans as dumb, fat, obnoxious bible-bashers with guns and a hatred for blacks.
I forgot one thing about the English: English girls find the southern Irish accent sexy. As a guy from Cork living in England, I try (and fail) to take full advantage of this.
God bless England.
God bless England.
