International view of the English?

[JanatUrlich]

'The type of constitution that the UK has'??? OK first of all it has a name, it's called uncodified and it has happened because Britain has never suffered from a major crisis or war that has called for the constitution to be written, so it has remained unwritten. That is all. Our constitution is still collected together. It's not as if politicians are running around like "shit where the fuck are all the amendments??!"

We. Do. Not. Need. A. Head. Of. State. And you accuse me of knowing nothing about politics? The Queen does not create legislation, she is not needed to pass it and her only role in any law making process is purely by convention. Royalty realises that to stop the actions of Parliament would be stopping the democratic process because Parliament is always sovereign. The Monarchy is so scared of falling out of favour with the public, they realise how close they are to becoming completely irrelevant.How can the Queen be of any relevance when it is the Parliament that is Sovereign.

You say the Queen is so important? Then why has her spending been cut in the recent emergency budget?? Because the government told her that that was going to happen, that's fucking why. She can't overrule them because she doesn't have legitimate power. The key word being legitimate.

Your stupidity astounds me. I honestly cannot believe that you have the balls to tell me that I know nothing about politics. You can't just sit there typing bullshit and then tell me that I'm wrong! That's not how knowledge works you absolute knobjockey.

People like you are never going to learn about a complicated thing like politics so I'm just going to stop trying because you're making me unnecessarily angry.

And of course I'm angry. You're fucking retarded and you're ruining the country I was born in! I may not like it, but fuck it doesn't need to be ruined any more than it already is!

I think I love you

But I fear for your continuation on this site. Calling people stupid seems to get them banned, even if they're completley correct

...

[small]Please don't ban her[/small]

Haha thanks man! But one of them mentioned something about a pineapple in my vagina, so if they ban me, they've gotta go the whole hog haha

 

[Lazarus Long]

I want so much to believe in a magical land populated by Rupert Giles and Rose Tyler and Guy Ritchie characters in the bad parts of London [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BritainIsOnlyLondon]. But I know that you lot are just as beautiful and fucked up as we Yanks are. Just a different flavour of human.

 

[Rakkana]

You know the classic accent everyone thinks we have? I've only ever met 3 people who speak like that.

wow, ive never even met 3

Really, I know loads (probably myself included). Do you guys live in the south?

Near Manchester. Most of the accents around here are Chavy ones.

 

[Nickolai77]

It seems there are a lot of out of date stereotypes about the English/British:

1) London Fog - not since the clean air acts of 56 and 68
2) Bad teeth - not any more, dentistry is on par with other western nations
3) Monocles, handle bar moustaches, pink gin, bowler hats etc... wrong century. (although I am partial to a pink gin in the summer)
4) Imperialist - The majority of brits don't even think of themselves as british anymore, its either English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish.

However, I may drink copious amounts of earl grey... And I may at times have a slightly supercilious and sardonic sense of humour.

So, Britain is one of the three major European powers, and our unique perk is that we are what ties Europe to the rest of the Western world. I think that that should be Britains role in the 21st century, a European nation which connects Europe to the rest of Western Civilisation.

By the rest of the Western world I guess you mean America? you do realise Obama hates us right?

if Obama hates us, it wouldn't reflect on American foregin policy because America needs us in Afganistan. Britain's ties with the non-European western world is down largelly to culture, there has been a lot of inter-marrage between English and Amercians for instance from WW2, there are, in Australia apparantly "boomer-rang Brit's", a term used to describe those whom live between Britain and Australia. My ex-girlfriend for instance lived in Australia for a few years before coming back to England. An another exhample is the Escapist itself. Loading Ready Run i think is Canadian, Yahtzee is a Brit living in Australia and the Escapist itself is hosted in America. When i'm talking about Britain's ties with the non-European western world these are the cultural ties i mean.

*respectful snip*

I love you too!!

I know where your coming from with people's opinions about the EU in the UK which drive me up the wall because they are so ignorant, so you have my sympathies. Especially for the pinnaple comment, that was well harsh.

 

[DazBurger]

I like the "brits"... Most of em anyways.

I find their food boring and their women slightly more than their food.
(Not trying to be offensive, its just an observation.)

Way to lump us all in there bubba! My pasties are more interesting than me, I always knew it.

Aww... Thats not the response I expectet! You know, you are making it rather hard to troll here >=[

But nah... I expect the impression comes from non-brits who have only been to London (people like me), who walk around the other turists and only see, what we are sure not just is another turist, when visiting the pubs... Which would also explain the food-thing

Besides... Everyone have their uncharming women, the british ones just stand out for some reason :/

 

[Searlero]

I tend to think the two main traits of the English are sarcasism and politeness.

I'm English, so I might be biased.

I also apologies on behalf of the English for all the chavs you have experienced online. We're sorry.

 

[Trebort]

Did you get a pineapple caught in your vagina? You seem really miserable.

lol! That's the best quote i've ever seen!


As for what I think about the Poms? I think they're a hard bunch. You'd have to be to live in the most miserable country in the world. Seriously, do you guys even know that there's a blue sky above all those clouds? The English have never been a physically superior race, yet they pretty much ruled the world. I think it's because they're a hard bunch of people who are unwilling to compromise on their position of power. They dont take shit and they get what they want. ie: China, India, Australia, America.
Through the British Empire, western civilisation has remained supreme. It's easy for a country to go off on it's own and say "look at how great we are!" But if you forget where you came from, you're just a belligerent bully trying to show how tough you are whilst everyone who's watching you is thinking "what a tool."
England has been there and done that, and they've learnt their lessons. They've earned the right to be arrogant.

I love your summing up of us. It's perfect!

 

[Trebort]

SNIP (because I could not be bothered to read through your holier than thou horse crap again)

Why don't you emigrate? I'm sure there are some uninhabited islands around the globe where you could pretend your opinion is the only one that matters and thus making you the highest authority on everything. ^_^

 

[superbatranger]

Well, I'm friends with someone from Nottingham(that's in the UK, right?), but he doesn't have the accent. He's a cool guy, nonetheless. The only other person I met from the UK had the British accent. Sadly, we didn't talk for long. He moved back to the UK. I think it was because everyone in my class thought London was in New York or California...

 

[tricky_tree]

Oh god your argument is so fucking stupid I can't stand it.

Wait, so I can't possibly understand political discussions because I'm not there, but you can understand the mood of a whole country when you're not there? Loving that logic right now.

Don't put words in the mouths of others and don't insult my intelligence. Of course discussions between nations are aired. The discussions themselves may not be broadcast, but politically minded members of the public can read up on any Parliament meeting that they choose to online. Just because you've never bothered, doesn't mean that I haven't.

Open government is becoming more of a reality, hell a friend of mine even went to the Chilcott Enquiry, but hey, I wouldn't expect someone like you to notice that; someone who makes up facts and then uses them as if they're relevant.

Come back and talk to me when you know what the fuck you're on about.

I'm sorry but I think you only see what is safe for you to see, they wouldn't broadcast anything sensitive. Just what I think and if I am wrong then so be it. I think all we can do is speculate and make informed guesses but never know the whole story.

I don't claim to know the mood of an entire country, just the foreign individuals that I know.

 

[tricky_tree]

Well, I'm friends with someone from Nottingham(that's in the UK, right?), but he doesn't have the accent. He's a cool guy, nonetheless. The only other person I met from the UK had the British accent. Sadly, we didn't talk for long. He moved back to the UK. I think it was because everyone in my class thought London was in New York or California...

I'm from Nottingham and we do have an accent. The stereotypical 'English' accent (Hugh Grant, The Queen etc) is spoken by about 10% of people at the most, everyone has an accent my friend.

 

[unoleian]

The only real thing that comes to mind when I hear "English" are your famously bad teeth.

That's about it...

 

[superbatranger]

Well, I'm friends with someone from Nottingham(that's in the UK, right?), but he doesn't have the accent. He's a cool guy, nonetheless. The only other person I met from the UK had the British accent. Sadly, we didn't talk for long. He moved back to the UK. I think it was because everyone in my class thought London was in New York or California...

I'm from Nottingham and we do have an accent. The stereotypical 'English' accent (Hugh Grant, The Queen etc) is spoken by about 10% of people at the most, everyone has an accent my friend.

Well, his wasn't the "English" accent we all know and love. If I remember correctly, he was born there, but his parents weren't British. They were from...somewhere else.

 

[tricky_tree]

The only real thing that comes to mind when I hear "English" are your famously bad teeth.

That's about it...

the originality medal is on it's way

 

[Dragunai]

Ask a guy "what's an American"? and he'll tell you it's a 'dumb, fat, obnoxious bible-basher with a gun and a hatred for black folk' or something less extreme but on the same wavelength

Ask 'em what's a Scot, they'll tell you it's a drunken mess of a murderer

But what do other countries make of the English? Do you all assume we are (rather predictably) 50% Football Hooligans and 50% tea-drinking posh gits?

Does it vary from place to place within your country? I'd imagine Connaught would hate the English a little bit more than the rest of Ireland because of all the crap land the English forced them onto, but I don't know, so that's why I'm asking

What do you (personally) and you (your nation) make of the English?

Im a south african, so based on the boar war and the horrific tests your people conducted on mine during that war in the concentration camps your country invented kinda pissed us off, then the whole political sanctions on our country to force it frmo the hands of a stable productive and economically sound (albeit falsely accused of racial hatred considering the apartheid was put in place by a tiny percentage who forced the legislation through) government into the hands of the ANC a known radical anti white terrorist organisation headed by Mandella then later Umbeki and now Zuma with Jacob "im going to murder all the whites the moment I take office" Milema just around the corner. I can give you the honest answer that most Saffa's arent fond of the ol' Brits.

I personally live in England and due to being subjected to (ironically) racist hate mongering by the English because I made the mistake of being born in a commonwealth country violated and sundered by your very own government find myself somewhat at odds with the whole opinion myself.

Obviously you can't blackball an entire nation base on the popular sterotype but some examples I can give of this racism does fall into:

- walking out of a south african shop only to have 2 very "hard men" mumble 'south african twat' as they walked past with their heads down looking VERY fierce.

- constantly being sworn at and told to F*ck off back to where I come from, from the early days of school aged 6 (the age I left my homeland at because of rising racial tensions and the fact a schoolbus I was destined to use getting shot up by 2 black dudes, killing all the children and their teacher) all the way through high school and so on.

- various other incedents where I have been threatened or insulted because of my initial nationality.

So as a general rule of thumb I split the english into 2 catergories - the educated and the scum.

Educated people are the ones who see me as a human being and treat me as such and in return I do so for them.

Scum treat me like garbage because of my original nationality (I now hold a British passport) and as such have small minds and chronic xenophobia and should probably consider growing up sometime soon.

I'd like to add on here that I'm a pretty reasonable guy, laid back and friendly and didn't do anything to provoke the aforementioned hatred other than trying to make friends in school while sporting a distinctive accent, then later giving up because children with racist parents wont be much better.

Short story - South africans typically hate the English, I personally hate the scum while making friends with the decent educated English.

 

[tricky_tree]

I'm from Nottingham and we do have an accent. The stereotypical 'English' accent (Hugh Grant, The Queen etc) is spoken by about 10% of people at the most, everyone has an accent my friend.

Well, his wasn't the "English" accent we all know and love. If I remember correctly, he was born there, but his parents weren't British. They were from...somewhere else.[/quote]

The Nottingham accent is like a mix of London and a Northerner, probably doesn't mean a lot to anybody from outside the UK, but it's nothing at all like the stereotype 'tea and crumpets' you hear on TV. The same with any accent from the British Isles, they are all so different and in most cases you wouldn't think they were British. I imagine it's the same with the US and other English-speaking countries.

 

[brunt32]

I'm English and I think of myself and my country as. as. as...

Well England. Theres not really much to it we always the the sterotypical view of being posh or being underage drinking and sex and what not. I think if there is something about us what not about other countries is we do like a good Media panic.

 

[Cakes]

Canada is supposed to be pretty tight with those folk for obvious reasons, we're basically England Part II. The Queen is our Head of State and I could join the British Armed Forces right now if I felt like it, so yeah.

That is a nice haircut.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

The only real thing that comes to mind when I hear "English" are your famously bad teeth.

That's about it...

Which is actually provably false.

A study performed by OECD, an international economic organization, on the state of dental hygiene in developed countries has concluded that the British have the very best teeth in the entire world, with an average of just 0.6 of a tooth decaying per citizen. Not just "not the worst"--the absolute fucking best!

- From Cracked [http://www.cracked.com/article_18409_the-5-most-statistically-full-shit-national-stereotypes.html]

It's just that the American and British idea of "Nice teeth" differs so much [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7633254.stm]. We like to have ours "au naturale", while the American fancy is for artificially whitened/straightened.

BTW - You know the real reason why the British Empire dominated the world?

We conquered diarrhoea first.

Seriously, one of the worst things that can happen to an army that marches on it's stomach is the runs. England's food crops and Victorian cures (Hence why we're called Limeys, because we stored limes onboard ships to prevent scurvy) was one of the sole reasons why we got so far. Most of the other countries around at the time didn't understand that keeping the excrement away from the food was a good idea; and thus when they tried to invade...Ooops.

(Also the basis of why Muslims won't eat pigs. Pork is a very fatty meat, and if it's in a hot country it goes bad really really quickly. When Mohammed rose an army, those that had been eating pig were pig-sick (another link) and he declared it to be the tainted food.

The more you know...

 

[BBMv12]

Wow, there are other people from Nottingham on here!? I'm glad (so long as you ain't from Bulwell. Can't stand that place. It is the anus of Nottinghamshire.)

I know we're Stereotyped as having fucked up teeth. Having said that I DO conform to that particular stereotype sorta on purpose... TBH I tend to put my foot in it with major stereotypes (like casually mentioning to an old Irish guy that he seemed "jolly" and that that was one of their stereotypes. I think he was offended)

TBH I'm fine with how we're portrayed abroad. We need to export some chavs to show other countries what most of the UK is, and to get rid of them! I try not to look heavily into the stereotypes really. USA has some bad ones but the only Americans I've met were cool, well of course they were they were Stuck Mojo! come to think of it the only Americans I've met are dudes from bands! I'd love to visit the states some time... and not just because of the "getting mobbed" comment someone made a few pages back! XD