Is enjoying 'Metroid: Other M' wrong?

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Chibz

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Zekksta said:
What's with the sudden influx of posts like this?

Nearly everyone knows ZP videos are just entertainment, I don't think anybody really takes the reviews seriously.
Because "just entertainment" or not he still pretends to be a reviewer. As long as he pretends to be a reviewer I'll judge him based on his merits as one. In other words, his lack of merit as a reviewer.

Doragon Shinzui said:
Yes it is and you need to seriously re-think your life.
MoM is one of the few things in this world without redemption. It took one of my favorite characters in video gaming history and marinated it in complete crap. It took one of my favorite series and removed all that I loved. It took all of the progress made by the Metroid Prime trilogies and t-bagged it in favor of absolutely retarded gameplay.
It should never have existed, and even seeing that anyone liked it fills me with rage.
Or how about people like me who saw the metroid prime series systematically remove everything that made the metroid series good in my eyes? Metroid Prime 1, pretty much the only good of the prime series.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
It's wrong for anyone to be mad at the story, though. What the hell did you expect from TEAM NINJA?
Getting sick of seeing this. Team Ninja wasn't responsible for the story. The person who had the most to do with the story was Youshio Sakamoto, one of the original creators of the Metroid franchise. I'm not trying to protect Team Ninja, but Sakamoto is the main reason the story blew. Hell it probably would have been better if Team Ninja had written the story themselves. Sure Samus would have been shamelessly exploited even more, but I doubt they would make her into a downright pathetic character.

On-Topic: No, it's not wrong to enjoy the gameplay of Other M. You're free to like whatever you want. The problem comes when you try and force others to like it just because you did.

However, enjoying the story of Other M is wrong.
 

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No. It's a game. It's supposed to be enjoyed. If other people don't like it, that doesn't affect whether or nor you can.
 

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The game suffers only from bad writing and a few gameplay hiccups. All it's bashing, mainly relating to Samus's character, are grossly over exaggerated.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
It's wrong for anyone to be mad at the story, though. What the hell did you expect from TEAM NINJA?
Getting sick of seeing this. Team Ninja wasn't responsible for the story. The person who had the most to do with the story was Youshio Sakamoto, one of the original creators of the Metroid franchise. I'm not trying to protect Team Ninja, but Sakamoto is the main reason the story blew. Hell it probably would have been better if Team Ninja had written the story themselves. Sure Samus would have been shamelessly exploited even more, but I doubt they would make her into a downright pathetic character.

On-Topic: No, it's not wrong to enjoy the gameplay of Other M. You're free to like whatever you want. The problem comes when you try and force others to like it just because you did.

However, enjoying the story of Other M is wrong.
-1000 Respect points for Sakamoto.
 

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badgersprite said:
A lot of people will probably be willing to explain exactly why they personally didn't like Other M, though. ;)
I was going to go 'what people? So far everyone has been supportive of me liking a game', then I went to post in something else for ten minutes and those people you brought up suddenly appeared. Weird what ten minutes can change.

Zekksta said:
Chibz said:
No, from what I've seen of it first-hand there's nothing fundamentally wrong with it.

In before someone quotes Yahtzee-the-fucking-retard on this.
What's with the sudden influx of posts like this?

Nearly everyone knows ZP videos are just entertainment, I don't think anybody really takes the reviews seriously.
People just don't like the other swarms of people that take everything Yahtzee says as the word of a God. It's especially tiresome when you have a hoard of pre-teens hearing that he doesn't like a game and trying to convert the masses to think the same when they, themselves, haven't touched that game. On the by, El Cazador de la Bruja was a great anime.
 

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I loved it, but it wasn't perfect. The gameplay was pretty experimental, but it was simple and easy to control, although playing it with a D-pad got a bit tiring after a little while. It was fun, overall. I really liked the sense-move mechanic. The graphics were great. Now we get into the more controversial stuff...

First of all, the authorization thing. While it did get ridiculous sometimes, it's really no worse than finding a power up immediately before you need it in any other game. Adam's not only Samus' superior officer, but she looks up to him as a father figure, as well. And, hey, they're trying to investigate the ship, not kill everything! They're only using the amount of weaponry that's completely necessary to protect themselves. The Varia suit thing was kind of stupid, though.

Next, Samus' character. People complained that it was different from what she was before. Answer me this: what did we know about her before this game? That her parents were killed by Ridley and she was raised by Chozo. Any personality that she had was a fabrication of the player's mind, as well as the minds of the community. Where, in any of the games, was she a stoic badass with no issues? None, because we knew nothing about her. This was an experimental game, and I applaud the writer for actually giving Samus a personality and trying to make her seem more, y'know, human, instead of just a player avatar. Imagine the traumatic things that she had gone through and put yourself in her shoes; if your parents were killed by a giant dragon thing, and then you were attacked by said dragon thing and his lackeys multiple times and THEN you think, nay, KNOW, he's dead, but he just comes back to attack you again after you unknowingly let him live when you could have killed him with a single shot. You'd kind of break down, too, right? Her voice actor wasn't the best, but it wasn't that bad.

This is not a game you should be ashamed for liking. I found it pretty damn good, myself.
 

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Quaidis said:
People just don't like the other swarms of people that take everything Yahtzee says as the word of a God. It's especially tiresome when you have a hoard of pre-teens hearing that he doesn't like a game and trying to convert the masses to think the same when they, themselves, haven't touched that game. On the by, El Cazador de la Bruja was a great anime.
Thanks for also pointing this out: Something I failed to mention entirely. Although, in hindsight, I'm glad he didn't like MH3. That way his fandumb would avoid it too!
 

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I think its a half decent game and the only part that i really hate is when you have to fire missiles.
Oh and the fact that Samus becomes a total ***** instead of being a bad ass bounty hunter
 

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Chibz said:
Quaidis said:
People just don't like the other swarms of people that take everything Yahtzee says as the word of a God. It's especially tiresome when you have a hoard of pre-teens hearing that he doesn't like a game and trying to convert the masses to think the same when they, themselves, haven't touched that game. On the by, El Cazador de la Bruja was a great anime.
Thanks for also pointing this out: Something I failed to mention entirely. Although, in hindsight, I'm glad he didn't like MH3. That way his fandumb would avoid it too!
Man was MH3 a great game; thanks for reminding me. I was shocked that Yahtzee found no redeeming qualities about it. Then again, it's not a game for everyone. The multi-player is incredible, and damn that one monster-sized underwater white bastard was tough.
 

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I thought that every single aspect of the game was terribly done. But I see a few comments about good combat design and I haven't ranted about that angle of the game on the Escapist yet so.. Here we go.

Ahem.

Let's just get the first person element out of the way. It integrates into combat like..... I really can't think of anything that felt that unnatural. It flowed into combat like a small 1 second long heart attack that caused dizziness for a few seconds until you exited first person, which caused another small heart attack.
So, let's take about the third person combat. It was dull. Just dull. Here's why. The sense move dodge thing. If you just mash one direction and make samus do a little dance, you have become god. You are invincible. Nothing can hurt you because Samus will just dodge it. When she does dodge an attack, the charge beam automatically hits full. Basically, here's how you win every fight in the game. Hold down the 1 button for a few seconds and release. Repeate this as necessary. During this time, continually press right on the d-pad. Considering that this strategy works for every single enemy in the game, combat is fairly repetitive and boring.

Seriously. There's nothing good about this game.
 

Chibz

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Quaidis said:
Man was MH3 a great game; thanks for reminding me. I was shocked that Yahtzee found no redeeming qualities about it. Then again, it's not a game for everyone. The multi-player is incredible, and damn that one monster-sized underwater white bastard was tough.
Yeah, I warn my friends that I recommend it to that it's "Not for everyone". Just so they know they simply might not like it. But I agree that the idea of it having literally no redeeming traits ridiculous.

From my perspective I find people whining that they basically "undid" the entire metroid prime series of character development ridiculous. Wasn't it supposed to be a DIRECT sequel to Super Metroid? I mean everything in the story says so. It even flashes back to the climax of super met...

You know what, I'm doing these retards too much credit. I bet most people here haven't played a metroid game before metroid prime.
 

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The people who ***** about the game before playing need to bite their tongues, I agree that the gameplay wasn't bad though not the franchise best. The plot is basically garbage, but I actually think that if pulled off correctly Samus could have been stronger BECAUSE of emotions. One more thing, Team Ninja didn't write the plot, if anything they are responsible for preserving Samus's character. The true perp was none other than Samus's own daddy, Yoshio Sakamoto himself.
 

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ArkhamJester said:
The people who ***** about the game before playing need to bite their tongues, I agree that the gameplay wasn't bad though not the franchise best. The plot is basically garbage, but I actually think that if pulled off correctly Samus could have been stronger BECAUSE of emotions. One more thing, Team Ninja didn't write the plot, if anything they are responsible for preserving Samus's character. The true perp was none other than Samus's own daddy, Yoshio Sakamoto himself.
More than anything, the horrible voice acting did more harm.
 

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Well, if you enjoyed it, good for you; you're not evil for disagreeing with the popular consensus.
 

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Quaidis said:
And I'm still enjoying the game. Somehow this is mortifying.
You should never be ashamed of enjoying something that is simply "bad", as "bad" is just a judgment.

It's only if you're enjoying too much junk food entertainment, to use a cliche, *then* you might have an issue.

If you really like a game, enjoy it. Hell, high-five to anyone that can enjoy the truly horrendous titles. Bonus points if it's Daikatana.
 

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i bought this first day beat it in 10 hours not in one sitting
problems i had with the game: the assassin is never revealed had to google it
the powers being prohibited i only agree the super bomb should have been locked
combat is broken once you get your screw attack jump thing
the perspective switching and its forced during final boss
DONT GO BACK AND GET WHAT CANT BE REPLACED ITS NOT WORTH IT
 

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No. You like it, you like it.

Liking it is far more preferable a situation than not liking it. At least you didn't spend money and time on a game that you didn't like.