Is enjoying 'Metroid: Other M' wrong?

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RatRace123

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The game play isn't exactly the strongest in the series, but it's serviceable and at times enjoyable, the first person transition is a bit awkward, especially when you have things lunging at you trying to eat your face.

The story, cutscenes and stilted voice acting suck though, and those elements take up about a fifth of the overall game experience.
 

Death God

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No. I personally enjoyed it myself. I don't care if the story didn't fit with all the other story lines from other metroid games. I just enjoyed the entirety of it and yes, I am a Nintendo fanboy too.
 

Daedalus1942

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I loved the game, the gameplay, and the story.
I hate the use of rockets in the game but overall was quite enjoyable.
I also loved the voice actress for Samus.
She did a PERFECT job of portraying samus as a disturbed, weak, detached from reality kind of woman.
Samus has always been so powerful and strong, it was a nice change to see her not so fearless, and more human than before.
She is one mentally messed up girl with severe daddy issues.
I love her ^^
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Chibz

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Death God said:
No. I personally enjoyed it myself. I don't care if the story didn't fit with all the other story lines from other metroid games. I just enjoyed the entirety of it and yes, I am a Nintendo fanboy too.
The storyline was consistent with the only game it had to be consistent with: Super Metroid.
 

SilverUchiha

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Despite what I say about Final Fantasy or Halo, it's not wrong for people to enjoy those games.
Despite what people say about Sonic Adventure games, I enjoy those.
It doesn't matter what the masses say, what one crazed loon says, or even what Yahtzee says. If you enjoy a game, that's perfectly fine.
 

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Enjoying the gameplay is fine. I actually really enjoyed it, sure there are some annoyances in it, but overall I actually enjoy the levels, it's like playing Metroid on the GBA, only it being like playing Metroid Prime at the same time.

The Story and voice acting is what kills the game. The story is eh, and Samus loses all strength as a strong voice for female video game characters because she's not only whiney, but only does things when she's told to like a good little girl, even when common knowledge says she should do it.

The voice was horrible to me, because Samus's voice in my mind is battle hardened, a strong voice that's seen battles upon battles on different worlds, with hundreds of creatures and monsters that haunt ever living being's nightmares. Her voice in the game sounded like a drunken college chick waking up for a hangover from the party where she did things too graphic even for the level that Republicans see Video games at.
 

Lem0nade Inlay

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Nope.

The gameplay is fine, albeit it awkward as fuck (switching to first-person to fire missles?)

However the plot is terrible, the voice acting ridiculous. Also the fact that they made out Samus to be a sniveling little helpless chick with daddy issues, instead of the bad-ass space-chick alien-killer that Samus was in her other games.

But there's no reason it's wrong to like it.

Daedalus1942 said:
Samus has always been so powerful and strong, it was a nice change to see her not so fearless, and more human than before.
Oh man! But that's the whole point! She could've had doubts and fears in her mind beforehand, but we didn't really know that because she didn't speak. In this one she wasn't really "Not so fearless", but scared of almost everything! I mean I know she was meant to have issues, but seeing what once was one of the most fearless, strongest, coolest heroines of all time turn into a pathetic, scared, submissive little girl was not the sort of thing I wanted from that game :|
 

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If you played the game, and you liked it.. Good for you! It is your experience and your opinion, so anything someone says to you that is at all negative shouldn't phase you kind sir. Christ... There could be someone out there who enjoyed ET for the Atari or even Superman 64 for the N64..

And to them we are the crazy ones.. But hell if they're enjoying themselves then why care?
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
Samus has always been so powerful and strong, it was a nice change to see her not so fearless, and more human than before.
Exactly why the game makes no sense. Even if you think portraying any character like that would be considered a good plot (I don't), making Samus into that runs into the problem of fucking up the rest of the series. Because nobody could do the things she does with her crippling psychological issues. It just doesn't make sense. Plus the game has a bunch of other plot holes so even it the characterization wasn't horrible the plot would still blow chunks.

Chibz said:
The storyline was consistent with the only game it had to be consistent with: Super Metroid.
Even if you don't like the Prime games, calling them noncannon is pretty insulting to the fanbase considering the overall positive reception of the triology. Which is another reason why Sakamoto is a terrible writer. But the funny thing is, even if you ignore the Prime series, the consistency is still fucked. A while back there was some (terrible) Metroid manga released in Japan, and Sakamoto has gone out his way to state that this is cannon. In this manga, which is a prelude to the frst Metroid, Samus sees Ridley, has an emotional meltdown, but then overcomes hey psychological issues intime to fight him. So her having another meltdown in Other M still makes no sense.
 

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I bought it on Release day. I played the hell out of it for about 2 weeks and that was it. I did everything you can do. I am a huge Metroid fan Super Metroid is the best still. And the 2D platform Metroid gameplay is superior to 3D platforming in first person. Only thing I would change about Other M is get rid of the first person missile shooting. Yea I've mastered it and I can flip the remote and hit something on bulleye with a pre-charged super missile. I still don't think that mechanic fits.

The linearity is more like Fusion than Metroid's 1, 2 or 3. Just like Fusion, the map only opens up after you have finished almost everything. This was done to serve the plot. Speaking of which. When I was at that hot lava area without the Varia suit, I didn't even remember that Samus still had the Varia suit until Adam told Samus to activate it, so I can understand why Samus may have not either. Its not like the heat was a major issue until that lava boss showed up. If you want to pretend Samus is a badass, she made it anyway. There you go. Don't even need a stinking Varia suit.
 

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No. You like the games you like. Just because the general media isn't into doesn't make you wrong. It is kind of wrong to have to get others approval before you like something.

My only difference in these is the people who say Halo or CoD games are the best shooters ever... and haven't played almost any of the other major shooter franchises. It's a dumb conversation:

"What's your fave shooter?"
"Halo/CoD."
"Really? Have you played MAG, or Killzone, or Resistance, or Borderlands, or Mass Effect, or Uncharted, or Gears of War, or Metroid Prime, or Battlefield, or Fallout. or Bioshock, or Left 4 Dead, or Dead Space, or any other shooter."
"I've played (insert random horrible shooter game here; Like Wet)"
*FACEDESK*
 

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As far as I know the only problems with the game come from the controls (switching to first and third person) and the character of Samus.

It is a Team Ninja game.

Those guys couldn't write a decent female character if their lives depended on it.

Case in Point: Dead or Alive: Extreme Beach Volleyball. That's what they've been doing for the past 10 years.
 

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McNinja said:
As far as I know the only problems with the game come from the controls (switching to first and third person) and the character of Samus.

It is a Team Ninja game.

Those guys couldn't write a decent female character if their lives depended on it.

Case in Point: Dead or Alive: Extreme Beach Volleyball. That's what they've been doing for the past 10 years.
to be fair. DoA: Boobie edition was some of their finest work.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Samus has always been so powerful and strong, it was a nice change to see her not so fearless, and more human than before.
Exactly why the game makes no sense. Even if you think portraying any character like that would be considered a good plot (I don't), making Samus into that runs into the problem of fucking up the rest of the series. Because nobody could do the things she does with her crippling psychological issues. It just doesn't make sense. Plus the game has a bunch of other plot holes so even it the characterization wasn't horrible the plot would still blow chunks.

Chibz said:
The storyline was consistent with the only game it had to be consistent with: Super Metroid.
Even if you don't like the Prime games, calling them noncannon is pretty insulting to the fanbase considering the overall positive reception of the triology. Which is another reason why Sakamoto is a terrible writer. But the funny thing is, even if you ignore the Prime series, the consistency is still fucked. A while back there was some (terrible) Metroid manga released in Japan, and Sakamoto has gone out his way to state that this is cannon. In this manga, which is a prelude to the frst Metroid, Samus sees Ridley, has an emotional meltdown, but then overcomes hey psychological issues intime to fight him. So her having another meltdown in Other M still makes no sense.
Okay... but sorry, I AM part of the Metroid fanbase (massive fangirl) and Metroid Prime is undoubtedly non-canon.
That's not insulting, it's fact, it has been said several times now by several sources.

Not doubting it's a great series, i loved metroid prime 1 and 2 (not so much corruption) but it's not canon.
-Tabs<3-
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Even if you don't like the Prime games, calling them noncannon is pretty insulting to the fanbase considering the overall positive reception of the triology. Which is another reason why Sakamoto is a terrible writer. But the funny thing is, even if you ignore the Prime series, the consistency is still fucked. A while back there was some (terrible) Metroid manga released in Japan, and Sakamoto has gone out his way to state that this is cannon. In this manga, which is a prelude to the frst Metroid, Samus sees Ridley, has an emotional meltdown, but then overcomes hey psychological issues intime to fight him. So her having another meltdown in Other M still makes no sense.
When did I ever say it was noncanon? It's merely a different timeline. A different story.

Also, when did I ever give the slightest indication that I cared about the opinions or feelings of others?
 

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starfox444 said:
Yes. I control your brain. I say it is wrong.
Man, what I was saying about liking Metroid? It was so completely wrong. I don't know how I ever liked any Metroid game in the first place. They're all terrible. Samus is a whining she-***** and I could never get into - Dammit! Get out of my head! *Mental boot*


ArkhamJester said:
The people who ***** about the game before playing need to bite their tongues, I agree that the gameplay wasn't bad though not the franchise best. The plot is basically garbage, but I actually think that if pulled off correctly Samus could have been stronger BECAUSE of emotions. One more thing, Team Ninja didn't write the plot, if anything they are responsible for preserving Samus's character. The true perp was none other than Samus's own daddy, Yoshio Sakamoto himself.
Wow, I never knew that the mastermind of Samus was behind the plot. He may be having a slump in life, or given into pressure from outside forces to 'change Metroid'. Or, as you said, his plot was poorly executed through how Team Ninja portrayed it and how they voiced Samus's dialogue.

Have to admit that I found the Samus cut-scenes boring. She sounded about as casually traumatized and interested in things as a brain-dead goat eating wet socks. For some reason I never considered Samus to be all that talkative. In this game she doesn't shut up.

I have to beat the game before I come to any conclusions on why the plot is doing what - though that'll be hard because I keep up and leaving the tele when a cut-scene does start. So far I can semi-understand why she is limited to weaponry and stuff due to temporary military control. And what I don't understand can be chalked up as 'a random reason for the game play challenges.'
 

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Quaidis said:
Is enjoying 'Metroid: Other M' wrong?
Fundamentally no. Just because so many people hate a game doesn't mean you necessarily have to follow the exact same opinion. I'd call this a rather rhetorical question really. I have no real opinion of it, the Metroid series has never really been in my taste, I've never seen anything very eye-catching about "Other M" myself.
 

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McNinja said:
As far as I know the only problems with the game come from the controls (switching to first and third person) and the character of Samus.

It is a Team Ninja game.

Those guys couldn't write a decent female character if their lives depended on it.

Case in Point: Dead or Alive: Extreme Beach Volleyball. That's what they've been doing for the past 10 years.
First, Team Ninja didn't do the story in Other M. That was Sakamoto.. one of the guys who created the Metroid series to begin with.

Second, Team Ninja does love to exploit it's female characters but they actually generally aren't that weak and submissive when it comes to their personalities.
 

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No, it's not.

This thread has been discussed before. People are butt hurt that Samus didn't turn out how they wanted her to, and Sakamoto has broken new ground in real life trolling.

It's sort of like this: A man saves your life several times. Everyone loves him and he's a role model in the community. He won a Congressional Medal of Honor -five times. The only reason he didn't become president is because he was too modest. A fucking second Adam. The man was Jesus Christ reborn.

One day he dies and in his attic are the skeletons of five year girls which over the years he kidnapped, tied up in his basement, then raped to death. Then when they died, he raped the corpses then flayed them. Then he ate them. He took pictures and made videos. You find them as well. He stole those Medal of Honors from a military garveyard, and the only thing in life he enjoyed was killing people for the thrill, or putting people, namely you, in harms way purposely for the excitement of saving them. And he also enjoyed hanging dogs from trees.

That man is Samus.

The story, while not the best, is solid in that it makes sense. It's just not the answer to the ambiguities which people searched for. They wanted Samus to be a hero that saved people because she was a bad ass that just did that shit. Not a schizo doing it because her illness compelled her to.

I actually prefer fucked up Samus. She's more interesting because she's unique. Samus as the bad ass bounty hunter is boring and mundane. Samus as the mentally deranged is broken and interesting.