Is music, music anymore?

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Does this prove the Year 2000 should be wiped like several other decades from history?
 

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I feel "music" died at the "pop-age" but i believe as long as people have a beat,rhythm and good intention, a form of music lives.
 

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Tracer Bullet said:
I myself love classic rock. Hendrix, The Who, Eagles, too many more to list. The tune, the beat, the rhythm and the sounds just send goosebumps. I am, also, an avid listener of Old-school underground rap The Roots, Mos Def, Jurassic 5 etc.

There is also the subject of indie music (independent). I'm sure there are actual good groups but from what I've heard, it's all shit really. Please feel free to express various opinions about that as well. I just want to know whether or not if music has just gone downhill over time.
No. good, great, Amazing music is still around. No, not pop or rap or mainstream rock. But stuff that you don't hear about because peoples ears aren't developed to listen to these genres.
 

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I've never listened to mainstream except when I was a kid, and that was 60s and 70s stuff folks listened to (bands OP mentioned actually).

I went out and found music I liked. I haven't watched MTV since mid 90s, listened to radio for any length of time since about 2002 or so.

I have no clue what won awards or sold a ton of albums, I'm quietly content to enjoy my music and leave others alone.
 

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There is some genuinely good new music... but the problem is finding it. It's like finding a needle in a pile of shit.

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Go look up "Party in the U.S.A." by Miley Cyrus... it will change your world man!!!! (jokes)
 
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I like music that is different. All music now is about sex, not sex, cheating, picking up girls, loving, killing, burning, destroying, ect.. I like Tom Waits, The beatles, Songs with no lyrics, and folk.
 

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Tracer Bullet said:
I myself love classic rock. Hendrix, The Who, Eagles, too many more to list. The tune, the beat, the rhythm and the sounds just send goosebumps. I am, also, an avid listener of Old-school underground rap The Roots, Mos Def, Jurassic 5 etc.
But as watching television and hearing the new... New wave of music? Is that what they call it? I don't know. But you know "bands" like Lady Gaga or Ke$ha, oh God, I felt dirty just typing that. Are they MUSIC. Take that how you want it but think of it this way if you listen to them. But do you listen to them cause they are good or because other people like them?
There is also the subject of indie music (independent). I'm sure there are actual good groups but from what I've heard, it's all shit really. Please feel free to express various opinions about that as well. I just want to know whether or not if music has just gone downhill over time.
Music is the same as it has ever been, 95% shit, 5% good stuff. You should know that mate as it was Pete Townshend I got that from. :)
 

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Just get over yourself, if you don't like it it doesn't mean it's not music. There are people out there who enjoy different thing then you. Opinions, assholes and all that jazz.
 

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Tracer Bullet said:
But you know "bands" like Lady Gaga or Ke$ha, oh God, I felt dirty just typing that. Are they MUSIC. Take that how you want it but think of it this way if you listen to them. But do you listen to them cause they are good or because other people like them?
That's like me puking, making the puke look pretty, then telling people that they should enjoy it, then asking if it's art. No, Lady Ga Ga and Ke$ha don't make MUSIC.

Edit: By MUSIC I meant whatever the OP was trying to define music as, obviously it is music in a sense...
Tracer Bullet said:
There is also the subject of indie music (independent). I'm sure there are actual good groups but from what I've heard, it's all shit really. Please feel free to express various opinions about that as well. I just want to know whether or not if music has just gone downhill over time.
I for one am listening to indie as I'm typing this. I just recently got into it, and have found some really good bands. I usually listen to punk/rock though.
 

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I'm a fan of ze 90s.

Although there are *some* good bands around, most of it < meh
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Most of the "rock", "punk" and "metal" is shit now too, mainly because its all so influenced by pop I had to use air quotes.
Dunno about the Rock or Punk parts of that sentence (I rather pointedly ignore general interests rock music and since punk was originally defined by bands that couldn't play their instruments I've never been a fan), but that's not really the case with Metal - unless that is you prefix it with American. There's a staggering amount of good metal being produced, just, you know, not here. This is why I stick to mainly European metal bands, the travesty that is *shudder* Nu Metal mercifully never caught on there.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Most of the "rock", "punk" and "metal" is shit now too, mainly because its all so influenced by pop I had to use air quotes.
Dunno about the Rock or Punk parts of that sentence (I rather pointedly ignore general interests rock music and since punk was originally defined by bands that couldn't play their instruments I've never been a fan), but that's not really the case with Metal - unless that is you prefix it with American. There's a staggering amount of good metal being produced, just, you know, not here. This is why I stick to mainly European metal bands, the travesty that is *shudder* Nu Metal mercifully never caught on there.
That's true.

I've been getting really into Rammstein recently actually. Damn good music.
 

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Tracer Bullet said:
I myself love classic rock. Hendrix, The Who, Eagles, too many more to list. The tune, the beat, the rhythm and the sounds just send goosebumps. I am, also, an avid listener of Old-school underground rap The Roots, Mos Def, Jurassic 5 etc.
But as watching television and hearing the new... New wave of music? Is that what they call it? I don't know. But you know "bands" like Lady Gaga or Ke$ha, oh God, I felt dirty just typing that. Are they MUSIC. Take that how you want it but think of it this way if you listen to them. But do you listen to them cause they are good or because other people like them?
There is also the subject of indie music (independent). I'm sure there are actual good groups but from what I've heard, it's all shit really. Please feel free to express various opinions about that as well. I just want to know whether or not if music has just gone downhill over time.
Music industry guy here to remind you that all music is music. It's a silly question.

Some music may be (according to you) bad music, but that doesn't mean it's not music. Of course it's music. It's just music that you don't happen to like.

For every person who likes Jurassic 5 and The Roots there's probably ten people who don't perceive them any differently to how they perceive 50 Cent and consider it all (heaven forbid) "not music" simply because it's rap, and for no other reason. Believe it or not, very few people who hate rap actually get picky about the "old school/new school" sonic delineation that is important to a lot of people who grew up with rap in the 1990s and prior.

Lady Gaga, Ke$sha etc is just pop music. It's not really any different to the pop music of the 80s and 90s, the only real difference is the production values are better now. It's not going to cause the end of the world. Strange as it may seem, people who listen to pop music do so because they actually like it. Nobody is forcing them to listen to it. As someone who works in the industry, trust me, if we could find a way to force the fuckers to listen to it, we sure as hell would. Do you know how hard it is to get a successful artist's career floated? It's really, really difficult. It just looks like a lot of marketing on the surface, but no way - there's so much more to it than that. And an insider tip - Lady Gaga is a shockingly, amazingly talented singer, far beyond what her songs reveal. She could go toe-to-toe with opera singers tomorrow if she wanted, but she chooses to make pop music, because she likes pop music, and she also likes getting paid. I've got no problem with it, I wish it was me but it would never be with all the marketing in the world because I'm simply not that good at it. Anyone who thinks this stuff takes no skill has never tried it.

Oh and "indie" music doesn't exist in any real sense. You need to define what you mean by that term more clearly.