I have a bad habit with 'their and thier' lolDiMono said:I know, it's hard to keep posts short in here, right? Quick tip though: their, not thier.pulse2 said:
Of course I wouldn't class that as not being music; melody doesn't need to be vocal, just present. And it's not so much that it's not music or art until experience by someone else, it's more that it's not music or art until it's in its finished form.Prince(see what I did there?) has entire albums of music locked away in a safe that have never been heard by anyone except those in the recording studio, presumably so if the world goes up we'll have music. The fact that nobody's heard it doesn't make it any less music than When Doves Cry is.
As for what to expect from music, I think it's a little disingenuous to say all classical music makes you feel this way, all rock makes you feel that way. Bach's Fugues may elicit one emotion, while Mozart's Symphonies may take you through several in rapid succession. I think the point is that it should make you feel some emotion, rather than necessarily feeling a specific emotion.
Let me approach this from another angle though: would you say Kesha sings?
Don't get me wrong, by saying classical makes me feel a certain way, doesn't necessarily exclude classical to one feeling, I'm just giving an example, there are forms of classical that are used in the likes of intense situations for another example, no music is restricted to certain feelings, but you tend to listen to certain types of music in order to feel a certain way, for example, you are rather unlikely to play classical at a club because you came there with the intention of boogying down, in the same way you wouldn't play metal at a wedding if you wished to be conventional.
My point was that good music should stir some kind of emotion in you if you like that genre of music, its not just about a melody although a melody alone CAN stir emotions, but it could also be about what is said. One might ask, how does a sad song make a person cry (Titanic's theme tune for example), was it the sentimental words that made the person cry or the melody itself.
When you go clubbing and you hear a tune you like, is it the melody you find catchy or the words being said you find catchy? Its the same thing with rap, the people listening are part of both the beat and the words being said.
As for Kesha, I wouldn't say she is singing or not singing, whether you are singing or not isn't really the point, you don't have to be singing for it to be classed as music, I'm sure there is someone that loves her music that would slam me for even so much as thinking her voice sounds monotone.
On the topic of Kesha, let me show you a popular (well they used to be until they fizzled out) group here, initially I didn't like them, I thought their music was to put it bluntly 'dry', but the fact is, they were popular and somehow they got me jigging and put a smile on my face, thus sparking an emotion, so regardless of what I thought, it's still considered music, and the beat isn't much to talk about either, so it's pretty close to rap, anyway, I'll finish on this note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPbNMLwmxYk
