U.S. daytime television has better eye candy than Hollywood because talent isn't as much of an issue there. Fashion modeling though...no. Absolutely not.
Is the modeling industry representative of what men actually find attractive?
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cuddly_tomato said:I think the comic industry has the best take on what men find attractive in women. Specifically, She-Hulk.
Not so sure there matey, she hulk is a bit too muscular in my opinion. Some men love muscles on a girl, but me and many other males i believe are not so keen on muscular women. Other famous super heroines look a bit too generic, like wonderwoman for instace. However, then you have catwoman, whom i would say is pretty hot, and poison-ivy (if i remember rightly..) Anyway, my point is that i don't think comic book super heriones provide any more insight into what men are attracted to women than any other forms of media. (However, a good deal more than the fashion industy does at any rate)
Everybody likes something different. While I think the women who dress completely in designer clothes tend to be more concerned with their appearance than other, more important things, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just not my cup of tea. A girl who can be totally comfortable in a pair of Levi's and an old t-shirt is way sexier to me. Plus, for the most part, if I can't talk to them intelligently about things that interest us both, I have virtually no time to be bothered. I find intelligence, comfort, tattoos, and for some reason an industrial, retro, 50's, early 60's twist to modern attire to be incredibly sexy.
Rogue, anyone?Nickolai77 said:cuddly_tomato said:I think the comic industry has the best take on what men find attractive in women. Specifically, She-Hulk.
Not so sure there matey, she hulk is a bit too muscular in my opinion. Some men love muscles on a girl, but me and many other males i believe are not so keen on muscular women. Other famous super heroines look a bit too generic, like wonderwoman for instace. However, then you have catwoman, whom i would say is pretty hot, and poison-ivy (if i remember rightly..) Anyway, my point is that i don't think comic book super heriones provide any more insight into what men are attracted to women than any other forms of media. (However, a good deal more than the fashion industy does at any rate)
I certainly hope not.
IMO, models are ugly. They're too tall and skinny. Each to their own, I suppose.
Pamela Anderson looks frightening. I think it's her nose and mouth
That M&S model, Lily Cole I think she's called, looks like a six year old. Creepy.
I don't watch pron, so I don't know that those girls look like. I imagine they're slim with big tits.
But like I said, each to their own.
IMO, models are ugly. They're too tall and skinny. Each to their own, I suppose.
Pamela Anderson looks frightening. I think it's her nose and mouth
That M&S model, Lily Cole I think she's called, looks like a six year old. Creepy.
I don't watch pron, so I don't know that those girls look like. I imagine they're slim with big tits.
But like I said, each to their own.
I was going to say "not the modeling industry, but..." but this makes me realize that does indeed vary quite a bit, however overall I'd say that industry shows what guys want.MelasZepheos said:
Porn is made with a (mostly) male target audience so obviously it's a reflection of what guys want to see in girl. There's a very wide variety of body types available in porn, which just goes to show that different guys like different things, and it's impossible to generalise about what guys like. Pretty much all guys are into visual stimulation, hence why porn is so popular with guys, but the exact type of visual stimulation varies massively from guy to guy. If I posted up here some of the pornstars that I find interesting (which I won't), I guarantee you that many of the guys here wouldn't agree with me. But some would.funguy2121 said:
The fasion modelling industry on the other hand doesn't care about promoting a specific kind of female form AT ALL beacuse it is an industry that is purely about selling clothes. A beautifully curvy female form to them actually gets in the way - they want you to look at the clothes, not the T&A. The fashion industry prefers the "clothes rack" kind of girl because of the way it displays their clothes (i.e like a clothes rack funnily enough), NOT because they think the women are that beautiful. It's all about the clothes, that's why it's called "fashion modelling" and not "girl modelling". Sure, they have very fussy "beauty" standards, but to them "beautiful" means "will display the clothes in the best possible light", not "is someone who I would really like to sleep with".
Don't assume that women look the way they do because they think guys like it. Most of the "pressue to conform" that bears down on women actually comes from other women (such as the women editing fashion magazines for example). Guys have much more relaxed standards than women do about female beauty! Most guys couldn't care less about a bit of cellulite on the ass, or a bit of a stretch mark or a funny dot in the wrong spot... and the majority of hetero guys definitely want that female ass to be BIG and are confused as hell by women who seem to want to make their naturally beautiful and natural female asses look small like a guy's ass. If we wanted guy's asses we'd be into guys. So yeah, women get this weord "body image pressure" stuff from other girls, fashion magazines, media etc... not from guys as much as you might think... talk to any guy about what they want and the response you get could be just about ANYTHING...
And yeah there is the odd male who, when in a relationship, will put stupid pressure on women about "you should lose that weight" or whatever, usually said while the guy is sitting on the couch eating chips and watching TV, not moving his fat ass. Needless to say that these guys should be dumped by their girlfriends as soon as possible, and ladies do your best to not end up with one like that. There's plenty of guys out there who will accept you for what you are.
HAHAHAHAHA that's funny, the ONLY reason why you want to dismiss my usage of it is cause it proves my point, with several good citations in there as well. which that article actually has.funguy2121 said:Wikipedia is not a reference, kind sir. Use it in a term paper some time if you don't believe me. I could post something on Wikipedia just as easily as Noam Chomsky or Carl Sagan.
Now stop condescending and pontificating, you do not know everything (you have to look to your wikis for that
also i would use it on a term paper, if the teacher decided to dispute it, i'd go over his head and ask for him to prove me wrong that it's a credible source as it's been proven several times to be as accurate if not more so than other "credible" sources of information.
you do realize that 3:1 was just a number right? i wasn't meaning it be the actual ratio, i was just using an example of a ratio number not an actual fact based one
actually that website has been proven to be overly accurate many times, even more so than ones that are credible. also there is tons of other proof for that, check the citations and references for that article. wikipedia was just a more condensed form that was a lot easier to post
also when accusing someone of being condescending please make sure they are actually doing so AND that you aren't doing it yourself, mr pot.
actually the so called "gross" girls are pretty healthy and they are considered hot for a darn good reason. they would also be good candidates for having a baby
your avatar on the other hand will probly have bad knees, veracious veins, heart problems and also diabetes when she's older or be in a very high risk category for those health issues. she would also be at a very high risk if she got pregnant.
Does that mean you like your women to cut off one of their breasts so they'll be better archers?annoyinglizardvoice said:
Bonsaik, that was meant as irony. Glad you like the chubby Latina. Her name is April Flores.BonsaiK said:
I will say though, last time I looked for a Velicity Von video, I was somewhat disappointed. She lost some of her weight and appeared to have gotten a breast reduction. Don't get me wrong, she looked younger and healthier - I just liked her a bit better with that almost-chubby look.
Cleverlymadeup, one more thing...
what's the obsession with procreation? You do know men look for more than just mating quality in women, right? How about love, sex, companionship, and empathy? How about finding someone who really knows how to make you feel like a man?
what's the obsession with procreation? You do know men look for more than just mating quality in women, right? How about love, sex, companionship, and empathy? How about finding someone who really knows how to make you feel like a man?
Doesn't everyone?Sulu said:
I was reading an article in one of the Sunday Magazines that comes in my Sunday paper a few weeks ago and the designer Karl Lagerfeld said that designers don't want to see women over size Australian 6 (an American size 4 roughly) because they weren't perfect or something and that that people didn't want to see women with curves. I don't remember exactly what he said, but you get the idea. The editor who was writing about Mr Lagerfeld's comments wrote that this is why women have such terrible self esteem. Because thoughts like that make "Real" women feel fat and horrible about themselves.
Personally, I tend to agree. I'm 165cm at last measurement and approx 65kgs (Er, internet says 5"4 and 143lbs for those American readers) and know that I'm the ideal weight for my height. I have a bit of a belly, but nothing that sticks out over my shorts, but when you see the women in the magazines with their hip bones sticking out, you think "Well, these women are in magazines and women my size aren't. I must be the wrong shape." I know it's crazy to men. I'm a size 10 and I have my "fat" days because of stuff in the magazines.
I think there should be a complete overhaul of modelling standards. The "models" on runways currently aren't perfect, they're malnourished and a lot of severe psychological issues. These women aren't beautiful. Women my size, with hips and tits (Sorry, it rhymed) need to be put out there on the runways, in the couture clothing to show that these women are the women who are going to invest millions in the fashion industry, and these are the women you should aspire to be like. Not stick thin and sickly looking...
Sorry, this is something I feel really strong about...