Is the Wii really that bad??

[Lord_Gremlin]

Actually it's simple. Wii - it's a Gamecube with motion-sensitive controllers. Last-gen, thats it.

 

[FranzTyphid]

i think by 2013 every human will have a wii
then in 2014 the wii's will take over mankind and make us mine for wiionium a rare compound
that will power there mothership
think about it....

IT WILL HAPPEN!!!

 

[Selvalros]

The wii doesn't suck, it is just aimed at crowds other than the hardcore gamers. If you have been a gamer all your life than don't get a wii. If you are new to gaming or aren't interesting in the traditional hacky slashy killy genre's that we hardcore gamers are used to then go for a wii. In short, I would recommend a wii to my girlfriend but not my best friend.

 

[DracheLehre]

I don't think the Wii is a bad console... It still has some unrealized potential.

Hell, it could even have the capability of playing Half-Life 2 if it had an actual hard drive.

For all we know, Nintendo may redeem its reputation in E3 2009.

Finding good games for this system is like mining... you will find a lot of useless junk, but after doing some digging you will find a vein of awesome games!

 

[AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt]

The Wii isn't BAD, but it's better served as an "accessory" system. Anyone who is really into console gaming would be ill served to just get a Wii. A Wii with a PS3 or 360 is a GREAT combination, because you still have the power console to appeal to your hardcore tastes, while the Wii can appeal to the casual gamers as well as it's select few but insanely fun exclusives. Also, the Gamecube BC is a nice feature since it seems to do the last-gen emulation better than the 360 and PS3, so you also have a nice selection of cheap, used games you can pick up at a local GameStop.

that's quite accurate actually
i need a 360 myself now since my brother's gone up to uni and taken his one

it's like, i could never give up my wii because of games like NMH and Disaster DOC yet i crave more hardcore games like gta4 and gears of war

 

[Ophiuchus]

Excuse me, but I played No More Heroes and I thought it was rubbish. Those assassin missions were terrible and repetitive, while the jobs were probably better than your average Mario Party minigame they were still pretty boring, and the boss fights were the only thing that pulled me through the first half of the game.

And then came that tunnel level.

You run down a tunnel, killing boring enemies who die slowly, and then you miss out on the only good part of the game. What the hell were the developers thinking? That the combat against average enemies was good enough? Sorry, it wasn't. I put the game down at that point and returned it to the library.

And the dialogue is so ridiculously juvenile it is beyond belief. The fanservice whenever a female character appears is pathetic.

I'd be interested in other people's opinions on why it was good, but personally, if they make a sequel it would be better following Madworld's lead rather than the original game's.

Because the game is ridiculous. You are the 11th ranked assassin in the world, and you earn money from mowing somebody's lawn? The game is supposed to be seriously messed up. Also, where did the "fanservice whenever a female character appears" come from? This is a new IP, and I'm pretty sure that a completely unrelated character to anything but the game itself is in no way "fanservice." You can certainly call the assassination missions boring, I'll stick with knocking coconuts down and playing with my cat.

But the thing that I love it for is it's ridiculous attention to detail in the wrong places. While you may not think so, the game is funny as hell. The characters are so balls-to-the-walls that I really don't want to push any sort of a skip cutscene button. Yes, the tunnel level was the biggest piece of crap in the game, but thats a minute detail for me. I love it, you don't simple as that. Also, the game was released for the wii, have you not noticed the lack of Jack Thompsoning going on?

Pretty much nailed it there. It's a silly game because it's meant to be. Alright, I've never beaten a free fight mission and I'm still only ranked 7th so far because I've been way too sandbox-happy (also, I got it less than a week ago) but the mini-games are entertaining, the cutscenes are amusing and there's just so many little things that made me openly say "what the fuck?!" to the screen... it's the most fun I've had with a game in a long time.

I guess it's one of those Marmite things.

 

[DM.]

The Wii is like swimming in a pool for of shit, With the odd diamond in it. If you know where the diamonds are then its great.

I do wish they made the graphics better through.

 

[Gunn01]

It's not that bad. It serves its purpose... although unless you're a small child... or a housewife... or a house wife with a small child then its a purpose that doesnt need serving.

 

[Enlong]

I used to be the biggest Nintendo fanboy around because they used to have so many quality games and never had all these crappy games ported to their system. Now with the Wii there is just so many terrible games. Considering its the most popular console of this generation they developers should be spending time with their ports. What also soured me from the console was the lack of upcoming Nintendo brand games. They released Mario, Zelda and Metroid and I certainly got the use out of my machine from those 3 titles.. but theres absolutely nothing on the Horizon thats remotely appealing to a hardcore Nintendo fanboy.

tldr : too many crap games and too many Nintendo party games for the Nintendo fanboys.

Id love Nintendo again if they announced another Zelda or Mario... until that time it will collect dust

Uh... they have announced a Wii Zelda game. Don't you remember?

The Wii is like swimming in a pool for of shit, With the odd diamond in it. If you know where the diamonds are then its great.

I do wish they made the graphics better through.

Oh bravo. Great analogy, champ.

 

[MicrosoftPaysMe]

Thewii isnt that bad at first but its problem is once u beat twilight princess and get bored with ssbb theres really nothing to do. Also i noticed if u get a new 360 game u might play it all night but if u get a new wii game ull only play it for like an hour or so and thats because its a more casuel system, even its most hardcore games. In short the wii is fun but dont let it be ur only console. get a ps3 or 360 first, (but not both cuz there basicly the same) then a wii

 

[GonzoGamer]

No it's not bad at all. It's just that it doesn't have as much to offer the kind of gamers that bought the 360 the second it hit the shelves.

Sure the games are a bit more casual and it seems to have become the shovelware magnet the ps2 was last generation but it also has expanded the market more than any other console. People I know who hated video games (usually because of an ex who liked games more than her) bought a wii.

And those who claim that it's averted talent away from the hardcore are understandably mistaken; it may look that way but would you rather see Ninjabread Man on the 360?
Didn't think so.

 

[cyber druid]

In my opinion:
With the Wii's idea of moition senestive gives it ALOT of potential for games.
But it hasnt took advantage of the motion sensetive controller.
If they could just make some new generations and stop with all this bullshit of making sequels then there wouldnt be much wrong with the wii.Of course not stop with sequels alltogether,just cut down on it.What puzzle's me is that wii is selling very good.
In general I think im fine with a wii but not as overjoyed when I got a gamecube....

 

[AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt]

The Wii is fun.
The Wii is not absorbing.

If you're looking for your game console to fill the gaping void that is your life, for the completion of a level to provide you with some sort of sense of accomplishment or boost to your ego that is otherwise lacking, you will need to look beyond the Wii.

If, on the other hand, you're looking for your game console to supplement an already full life, to provide you with some amusement -- especially with your friends -- for those occasional periods when you've got some leisure time, or are looking for gaming that isn't the same-old same-old, (or you're just a smug git like me) then you'll probably find a Wii fits in quite nicely.

What's most interesting to me about the Wii is that the potential of Wii gameplay hasn't been scratched yet, even though the graphics technology has been fully plumbed. Consider your standard RTS game -- usually hell on consoles, the controls just aren't suitable. But what about the Wii? The IR pointer could possibly make a world of difference.

Of course, what I'm really waiting for is Blizzard to put out a Wii/WoW bridge. Crack gaming, meet the senior's home.

wow, you dont do much else besides play videogames do you?

 

[fenixrising]

The wii is like getting a really pretty girlfriend. At first it's exciting and you think 'could she be the one?' then after time you realise she's a bit daft and empty headed, then you start to avoid taking her out in public just in case she says something stupid and shows you up. You hang on to her more out of pity and cowardness. Evey now and then she might do something cool or say something funny, but things will never seem to get back to the time when you first banged her.

 

[Devildoc]

Excuse me, but I played No More Heroes and I thought it was rubbish. Those assassin missions were terrible and repetitive, while the jobs were probably better than your average Mario Party minigame they were still pretty boring, and the boss fights were the only thing that pulled me through the first half of the game.

And then came that tunnel level.

You run down a tunnel, killing boring enemies who die slowly, and then you miss out on the only good part of the game. What the hell were the developers thinking? That the combat against average enemies was good enough? Sorry, it wasn't. I put the game down at that point and returned it to the library.

And the dialogue is so ridiculously juvenile it is beyond belief. The fanservice whenever a female character appears is pathetic.

I'd be interested in other people's opinions on why it was good, but personally, if they make a sequel it would be better following Madworld's lead rather than the original game's.

Because the game is ridiculous. You are the 11th ranked assassin in the world, and you earn money from mowing somebody's lawn? The game is supposed to be seriously messed up. Also, where did the "fanservice whenever a female character appears" come from? This is a new IP, and I'm pretty sure that a completely unrelated character to anything but the game itself is in no way "fanservice." You can certainly call the assassination missions boring, I'll stick with knocking coconuts down and playing with my cat.

But the thing that I love it for is it's ridiculous attention to detail in the wrong places. While you may not think so, the game is funny as hell. The characters are so balls-to-the-walls that I really don't want to push any sort of a skip cutscene button. Yes, the tunnel level was the biggest piece of crap in the game, but thats a minute detail for me. I love it, you don't simple as that. Also, the game was released for the wii, have you not noticed the lack of Jack Thompsoning going on?

Dumpster diving for new t-shirts.

 

[Kexel]

A big trend for wii hating isn't the lack of good games but more because they release bad games, which doesn't really make sense... Every console has bad games its to be expected. But it is true that many third-party developers don't use the wii to it's full potential. Also what is shovelware?? ^_^;;

 

[solidstatemind]

Wow. 117 posts and not one person really 'got it'.

Uhm. Look: I hate to break it to you all, but the Wii isn't FOR us. And when I say 'us', I mean the hardcore gamer types that hang out on videogaming websites like the Escapist.

And you know what-- that is exactly what Nintendo intended. (!!!) I mean, holy shit, did you guys not read the pre-release press clippings for the the Wii? Nintendo stated that they were going to 'revolutionize gaming'! I'm guessing that you all thought- mistakenly- that they meant that they were introducing the Wii-mote, that that was the revolution?

That's not what they meant.

Look, this is very simply explained. I have a Wii. I have a PS3. I have an XBox360. I have a high-end gaming PC. You know what I do? I play exclusives-only on my XBox360 (as much as it pains me to say it, the 360 is the console I could most live without). I mostly play BluRay DVDs on the PS3, and the cool games that come out for it. Frankly, the PC is what I do most of my single-player gaming on. And the Wii?

The Wii comes out for parties. Rock Band, Wii Sports, Boom Blox, Mario Cart, SSBB, etc. When my house is full of other people, the Wii is on and no other console, nor my computer, can challenge it. Basically, the equation can be simplified to " >2 ppl = Wii "

Nintendo is revolutionizing gaming by making it accessible and attractive to every person, not just the geeks like us who grew up with it. And they have been phenomenally, incredibly, even shockingly successful at that goal... unfortunately, that begets shovelware. And I agree that there is a TON of shovelware out for the Wii. But the thing is, I recognize that as the price I have to pay for Nintendo's endeavor.

I also know that Nintendo is, ultimately, doing me a favor as a hardcore gamer.

Why? Because they are removing the perception of gaming as being a niche market.
Why? Because they are drawing more people into the field of making games.
Why? Because I think the 'stagnation' of games- particularly console games- was due to the fact that the market for 'teh hardcorz' had grown as large as it could. New demographics bring new ideas bring new innovations = good in the long run, even if we have to deal with the garbage 'dregware' from people attempting to exploit the profit potential of a far vaster market segment intially. (And really, that's no different than the explosion of any new media, from radio, to movies, to television, to video, to games: they all had a segment of their history where a bunch of dross flooded the market when the consumer demand really expanded rapidly. Hell, the Internet might be the most recent and most relevant example of this phenomena.)

So, ignore the hardcore gamers who deride the Wii as having only niche appeal-- they fail to realize that THEY are the niche. Understand that, while the vast majority of its games currently are trash, that the growing pains of a paradigm shift, and, as much as it might offend our precious egos, Nintendo isn't trying to appeal to us, and thus they couldn't give a shit if we turn up our noses at their offerings.

Ultimately speaking, you need to just go to the revenue figures for the company. They prove moreso than any one person's opinion (no matter how wise) if Nintendo is right or not.

 

[kills4smithy]

If you ask me

wii: people who cant be asked to go outside or just a party thing

xbox 360: lotsss of people online who really can be asked to mute there mic

PS3: it killed it self at the start of the marketing

the good parts you can find out yourself

 

[scoHish]

The Wii's fine, its the quality control that sucks.