Is there anything wrong with Bethesda softworks?
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I generally like Bethesda games, but they are without a doubt very glithchy. Thats my main problem with them.
The cops were a little touchy though, weren't they?slipknot4 said:
The dancing Indoril was so f'ing funny, unfortunately the place that particular video was hosted is long gone, though there have been others [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0wuXy2eVqs]...
They make very full games, they are enjoyable because of the richness of the content in the worlds they create.
The combat is usually mediocre.
The voice acting and animations are stiff and awkward.
Personally I prefer the styles of gameplay implemented by other RPGs more, however I have played and enjoyed many of their games...just doesn't seem like they have much of a desire to change the already iffy formula.
The combat is usually mediocre.
The voice acting and animations are stiff and awkward.
Personally I prefer the styles of gameplay implemented by other RPGs more, however I have played and enjoyed many of their games...just doesn't seem like they have much of a desire to change the already iffy formula.
I can't think of anything particularly bad about Bethesda other than the atrocius voice-acting (or distict lack there-of) in most of their games.
As for why people think Morrowind was better than Oblivion I can sum up my feelings about it one word: polearms.
Oh, and a more imaginative world, and a better travel system, and a better equipment system...
Basically, IMO, Oblivion was a dumbed-down RPG. Morrowind was more complex, and you were actually someone as opposed to some random prisoner that happened to be in the right place at the wrong time.
Oh, and more imaginative support characters/random citizens. And more factions to join. And better organized dungeons, each one was set and unique as opposed to randomly generated from a list of about5.
If I think of anything else I'll either add it or make a new post.
As for why people think Morrowind was better than Oblivion I can sum up my feelings about it one word: polearms.
Oh, and a more imaginative world, and a better travel system, and a better equipment system...
Basically, IMO, Oblivion was a dumbed-down RPG. Morrowind was more complex, and you were actually someone as opposed to some random prisoner that happened to be in the right place at the wrong time.
Oh, and more imaginative support characters/random citizens. And more factions to join. And better organized dungeons, each one was set and unique as opposed to randomly generated from a list of about5.
If I think of anything else I'll either add it or make a new post.
Bethesda does make some awesome games, but I have recently noticed why I don't have as much fun as I should in games like Oblivion and Fallout 3. The characters in their recent games are (mostly) complete garbage. Three Dog is the only character so far in any of Bethesda's games that I actually liked. The plots are also uninteresting for the most part, which is why most people have much more fun just roaming around the giant virtual worlds that Bethesda creates.
Nothing that is not new to modern development graphic or theme heavy with a good dose of shallowness to back it up. I can ***** and whine about Bioshock being under deved and bugy but good lord there are more gameplay options in it than FO3 sure FO3 has more story and tis far easier to be a right bastard i it but past that the equipment is weak and core gamepaly elements can not hold up through a whole 30 + hour game.slipknot4 said:
If they did more to allow for weapons and equipment building a kin to TES spell building then it would have made all the other flaws that more bearable but holly hell the fraggin thing was released to early and unfinished.
Morrowind was imperfect masterpiece, Oblivion and FO3 are jizz on christ called art..... they are going through the motions but the end product just aint there like most devs who have burnt out and don't have the decency to move on.....
Bethesda is a pretty damned good game developer. I called them out on some of their bigger boneheaded mistakes in Oblivion and on the ending of Fallout 3, but they seem pretty responsive to the community. That's probably WHY they screwed up in Oblivion; they were overcorrecting problems in Morrowind. Oh and they will fix the ending in Fallout 3 with some DLC. Yeah it sucks we need to fix it with DLC, but I doubt they will make that mistake again.
I continue to have high hopes for thier future games.
I continue to have high hopes for thier future games.
I love Bethesda myself, but they seem to have this huge rift in the quality of their games. On one hand they do environments really well, and the background lore for these imaginary places sucks me in with its creativity and vibrancy. On the other hand they really need to hire some animators who actually know what they're doing. Every bloody piece of animation in their games is shite, especially in the context of a big, multimillion project. I've seen flash artists who can animate better then Bethesda's whole team.
Also, in contrast to the fantastic background lore Bethesda's so famous for producing, is their characterisation and quest writing. Its well below the standard of the lore, and every NPC feels like a walking statue with a dialog window.
Their games always suck me in though. I think they appeal more to my desire to collect than anything else, which is a pretty depressing thought.
O and it's my first post. It's a right old pleasure to meet you all.
Also, in contrast to the fantastic background lore Bethesda's so famous for producing, is their characterisation and quest writing. Its well below the standard of the lore, and every NPC feels like a walking statue with a dialog window.
Their games always suck me in though. I think they appeal more to my desire to collect than anything else, which is a pretty depressing thought.
O and it's my first post. It's a right old pleasure to meet you all.
I also love how people only seem to jump on the, "I hate everything," bandwagon when they see something as successful.thomasronan said:
I don't hate Bethesda. Yeah, their character animations are a little stiff, and they don't seem to offer much reward for exploring their gameworlds, but at least they put the effort into making their games as immersive as possible.
The only thing I can't forgive them for is ending Fallout 3. I wish it was like Oblivion and just let you roam after the game was completed.
Between age/experience and consumption levels one can easily hit a burnt out level for mediocre games (though I iz not burnt out as much fcking mentally fried). I just call the lack of design and details out. FO3 has issues with dialog which would not be bad by itself but add up the bugs(missing NCPs,falling through the game world the rushed ending to get the game out early so they can sale the rest of it as pounds of flesh modern zombie gamers will eat up,lack luster equipment with zero customization I mean come on these are the people that made MORROWIND.....,rushed skill system, a game filled with 30+ hours of content but not enough variety and worth to keep the game interesting for that length of time. )Tyrant55 said:
Oblivion suffers from alot of this as well.........
I want games to be better but they are damned to be shallow zombie fodder because most people(devs included) are content with their happy little bliss and do not demand anything other than Oh new game I give you money and bend over"...
They have above average level design but things just start going down hill fast as they are adding to much content and not enough qaulity control to ensure that the content is not spamerfiffic...Sir Numpty said:
Weak AI,sub par visuals, lack luster equipment there is no immersion here its like a MMO its a time killer people are happy to pay though the nose for.....tsb247 said: