It seems vista is going to be replaced by Windows 7

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CrabRangoon

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Humph, dust to dust I suppose.

Its disappointing they didn't bother fixing the OP I bought.

In retrospect I should have stayed with my faithful XP OP for a couple more years.

Anyhow I will wait a year after W7 comes out to consider getting it, about that time I'll be feasting over the innards of a new computer.

With buyers remorse,
Dallas
 

Gxas

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L33tsauce_Marty said:
Oh they will get it right. With apple pissing them off everyday it seems that they really should. But did anyone read the bio on the author of that article? *shiver*
Lol... agreed.
 

James Raynor

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Eggo said:
Bigfootmech said:
All that they really ever need to do is add DX10 functionality to XP. Problem solved - unless they want to keep stealing everybodys money like they are at the moment that is V_V.
There's a lot more to Vista than just DX10. And since XP sucks, it can't ever get this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model

XP isn't all that bad.
 

Jamanticus

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Eggo said:
It's a damn great thing TheIceface is here to provide so many accurate nuggets of knowledge concerning what Vista can and cannot do.
Was that sincere or sarcastic? I can't tell over the interwebz....
 

James Raynor

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Khell_Sennet said:
D'ya ever get the feeling we're all going in circles? Well, who am I to think of changing such universal forces...

Eggo said:
Just like Vista isn't "all that bad" either.
Yes it is.
I have both OS and if my gaming computer wasn't the one that had vista I wouldn't touch it.
 
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mshcherbatskaya said:
Also, I can't turn it off because it is a work-issued computer and I don't have admin rights.
See, the sole thing about Vista that pisses me off, and it is enough for me to avoid it, is the admin rights thing. Last time I checked, computers allowed all users the right to install or change things, not just one master user.
 

Mariena

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Eggo said:
You think that's crazy? XP takes up 1.5 gigabytes of hard drive space!

Holy shit!
And FreeBSD uses 25MB of memory... IDLE! Omg!

My dad managed to buy a laptop with XP (Home) and a total of.. 192 MB RAM. How.. horrrrrrrrrible. Man, was he glad I selected a proper laptop for him.
 

James Raynor

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Khell_Sennet said:
Eggo said:
Khell_Sennet said:
Eggo said:
Just like Vista isn't "all that bad" either.
Yes it is.
Remember when you tried to argue that same thing and then I shot all your points down but you never replied back to me?

Are we going to repeat that again?
Probably, yeah. Because so long as your argument revolves around what you deem FUD, nothing I say can't be shot down by you proclaiming it such. If anything I dislike about Vista, valid or just personal stubbornness, is going to be deemed FUD, there's no point discussing it. Bottom line is, I hate Vista, as do more people than not. Call it FUD, call it ignorance, call it whatever you want, the majority has spoken, and they say Vista sucks like Saigon Sally on Buck for a Suck night.

Edit: Also worth a mention even if it falls on deaf ears...
Even if all my/our/the complaints against Vista are dated and the causes fixed, it doesn't invalidate the hatred. You get ONE chance to impress the buyer, fixes aren't worth fuck-all. If you release something flawed, the customer is not going to reconsider and/or give the company a second chance.
QFT

Eggo, if you ask me Vista is ME 2.0 It's better yes, but it's still the mistake edition. Just because you don't have these problems doesn't mean everyone doesn't have them.
 

Alex_P

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thebobmaster said:
See, the sole thing about Vista that pisses me off, and it is enough for me to avoid it, is the admin rights thing. Last time I checked, computers allowed all users the right to install or change things, not just one master user.
There are many situations when you do want a system to be locked down, either because it is a multi-user environment like a mainframe or cluster or because you have a bunch of networked personal workstations that you want to manage centrally.

Even on a single-user personal computer, it's usually best to separate "do anything I tell you to do" mode from its regular functionality. If the user tells you to reformat a drive, disable the video card fan, or replace the OS kernel with a different file, you should probably check that it's okay and that the user is who she says she is before you proceed. I'm pretty happy with the way modern Linuces like Debian and Fedora handle this stuff. They don't ask for the password unless it's something that affects the system as a whole(*), and then they ask for the password once.

The problem is just that Vista's security clashes with the workflow of certain basic tasks. This is sometimes the fault of the OS (or closely-related Microsoft products) and sometimes the fault of third-party software that is designed with a user-is-always-admin mindset -- in particular, games.

-- Alex
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* - Although I do have a crappy Lightscribe application which asks for root because of some stupid way it has to access the CD drive.