It's the All-Star Porn Star Piracy PSA Video!

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Altorin

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mindlesspuppet said:
Bahahahahahhahaha

"But eventually if no one is willing to pay for the movies we make, they won't exist"

That's fucking hilarious, because clearly no one would ever make a porn for shits and giggles... porn is serious business.

Also, all the girls in this video look like skeletor's grandmother.
No, there'll always be a porn industry, because there will ALWAYS be people willing to spend good money to watch people have sex.

It may not be as many as the porn industry would like, but even if piracy DIDN'T exist, they'd want more people to be watching.. the practical upshot is the same.. People still buy porn.. A lot of people.. enough to keep a modest industry afloat.. And if you properly sell to your real fans and try and get new ones whether they pay for it or not, then all the better.

If you act like a ponce and release a video trying to guilttrip people into paying for something that clearly wants to be a "support your favorites directly" medium isn't the way to fix it.

Provide something special to those that do pay.. take a page out of the Project 10 dollar handbook.
 

mindlesspuppet

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Altorin said:
No, there'll always be a porn industry, because there will ALWAYS be people willing to spend good money to watch people have sex.
Honestly I think pornstars trying to appeal to people is the least effective thing ever, I have more sympathy for the RIAA.

That's not to say I have anything against pornstars or porn for that matter. However, even if the entire porn industry was somehow erased, even if no one spent a single penny on porn ever again; it really would make no difference, at all.

There would still be guys recording themselves having sex with attractive women and putting it online for bragging rights. There would still be angry ex-boyfriends who upload that movie no one was supposed to see. There will still be people who are aroused by the idea of being publicly exposed. There will still be attention starved girls trying to make all the boys drool. There will still be people doing weird ass shit just to shock and awe.

Really, there's no need for paid "performers" or production studios for porn these days. Amateurs tend to be more attractive. High quality video recorders are affordable. Nearly everyone has broadband.
 

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Yeah, to be honest, if they could actually make good porn they might not be in a such a shitty position - assuming they ARE, which they probably aren't. Penis -> vagina etc like a medical video just isn't that good, it'd be like making romance movies in which the people just said "I love you!" with terrible acting, hey guess what, nobody would pay for that either ;) The amateur porn is actually higher quality than the professional stuff.
 

Aurgelmir

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I am pretty sure Porn will never die, but like every other industry it will change.
And didn't already the internet steal away from a lot of the DVD sales?
I mean "Watch porn without anyone knowing it" VS "Buying them in a store, kinda showing the world your kinks"

All in all I gather there is a lot of porn-creators out there that dont need big budgets and DVD sales.

PS: I bet the quality of porn will get worse though.. if you can say porn has quality.
 

Ewyx

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Now if it was games, people here would be complaining about how piracy is wrong...
 

WhiteTigerShiro

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Altorin said:
WhiteTigerShiro said:
So would you say that everyone who smokes cigarettes is also a major stoner? After-all the reason most people get into pot is because cigarettes no longer satisfy their addiction, so every smoker must therefore be a stoner too.
while I agree with most of what you say, at least on principle, this is just dumb.

Cigarettes are not a gateway drug to marijuana.

In fact, if anything, the opposite is true. I've seen more people start smoking cigarettes AFTER becoming accustomed to marijuana then I believe it's possible for the opposite to exist.

You start with Marijuana.. then you Spliff because the nicotine heightens the effect of the marijuana.. then you get addicted to the nicotine and need to start smoking cigarettes.
I suppose I apologize then. I'll admit that I'm not a professional when it comes to drug-related matters, though my point still stands about claiming the two professions to be the same just because some porno actors eventually start selling themselves to prostitution.
 

Super Jamz

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These are people that earn their living being pleasured in ways many people can only dream about, and I'm supposed to feel what about them, Sympathetic? I know, I know, I've heard all the stories about how hard it is to be a porn star, working long hours, having to have orgasms over and over again so they can re-shoot extra footage for the editors, being pleasured sometimes for hours on end, wah wah wah. If that's their idea of a tough job, I know some inner-city teachers and cops that might beg to differ. I digress...

They have lots of amazing sex for a living... they'll get my pity in the next life.
Weird, i don't remember any of them mentioning that in video. Or see how that even matters.

Watching porn isn't any different from watching a film, except you're trying to pleasure yourself while you're at it. Don't like it? Don't watch it.

They're getting annoyed for the same reason filmmakers crack down on people pirating their movies. Just because they have sex for a living and aren't ashamed of it doesn't suddenly make it 'immoral' and wrong for them to protest.
 

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In other news:

Most piracy claims are bogus [http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/us-government-finally-admits-most-piracy-estimates-are-bogus.ars]

Until there's proof these "actors" are going to be on the street from their website deals, merchandising deals, or a collapse of their under the table deals to their fans, I'm not convinced piracy will destroy their industry.
 

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While it may be annoying that people are enjoying your work and not paying for it, realistically you should only expect an income from people who care about it. Even if the entire porn industry went down I doubt anyone watching would notice, let alone care.

I will say though that I thought the porn industry is one of the few people are allowed to work hard.

Ba dum psh.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Excuse me while I get out the world's smallest violin.

Hopeless Bastard said:
Oh. No. The "porn industry" no longer has exclusive distribution or creation rights on the recordings of consenting adults engaged in sexual acts.
And I still don't understand why anyone would want to see that.
 

Altorin

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Rack said:
While it may be annoying that people are enjoying your work and not paying for it, realistically you should only expect an income from people who care about it. Even if the entire porn industry went down I doubt anyone watching would notice, let alone care.

I will say though that I thought the porn industry is one of the few people are allowed to work hard.

Ba dum psh.
yeah... those porn videos that are free online right now won't disappear if the porn industry collapses.

If anything, those porn videos will generate more and more revenue via ads due to the collapsing industry...

and then, guess what.. the people running the porntube websites.. if there's no new porn being made.. they'll *gasp* finance porn using ad revenue money.

sometimes, the shortsightedness of people astounds me.

As crazy as it sounds, if I were a bigshot pornographer, I probably would have my stable of pay websites... and then I'd have my own porntube website as well, including lots of stuff that I'm CHARGING for on other websites.

crazy ad revenue coming straight to me in one hand, devoted fanbases paying for "exclusive" content in the other.. fist fulls of cash either way.

Fighting against free video media online is just stupid.. It's like standing steadfastly against the rising tide.. The Youtube era changed the way people consume visual media.. Embrace it or die.
 

ResiEvalJohn

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I lol'd at the part where the one girl said - "Most of us have families."

If you have a family, then you should get a real ass job instead of fucking random people everyday for money, that's sick. Who'd wanna be married and have kids with a porn star anyway? It would piss me off if I was married to a pornstar and knew that she was getting fucked by a different dude everyday at her work. Plus it's gotta be embarrassing for their kids when they get asked what their parents do for a living. It's for the best if these people lose their jobs and find meaningful work somewhere else.
 

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WhiteTigerShiro said:
1) Despite the work required, pornography is actually very clean. They're very very very strict about making sure that the actors are tested, and if you get a disease somehow BAM that's just it, you're done. Even if it's curable I don't think they'll let you work anymore even after it's cleared-up. Prostitution on the other hand... you don't know what the fuck you're getting tangled-up with, and that goes both ways. The prostitute doesn't know if you're clean, and you don't know if she's clean. Sure there might be a few honorable prostitutes who actually get themselves tested regularly and would stop if they get anything, but that's few and far between. False. The only disease for which performers are required to be tested is HIV. Actors frequently work with Chalmydia. In fact, infection rate for Chlamydia has been estimated at 80%. In countries where prostitution is regulated, prostitutes are required to get tested for sexually transmitted diseases.
WhiteTigerShiro said:
2) People trafficking. There have been no cases of an innocent woman being abducted from her normal life to be forced to work in the porn industry. Prostitution on the other hand? I'm sure that number has reached into the millions by now.Please see: child pornography
WhiteTigerShiro said:
3) Pornography is basically making a movie. While it's two people being paid to have sex, it isn't frequent that either party enjoys the act due to various factors involved in making the shot look better. Prostitution, on the other hand, exists purely for the sake of providing sexual pleasure to the buyer. I suppose you could say it's like the difference between buying a burger from McDonald's and buying hamburger patties from your local grocery store. Sure it's food in both cases, but a restaurant and a grocery store are two very different establishments, and you'd look like an idiot trying to argue that a person working at one is the same as a person working the other.So, paying people for having sex is okay as long as no one enjoys it? That's kind of messed up. You must be Catholic. Also, I don't really understand your McDonald's analogy. I didn't realize that either of those activities were considered immoral, or that someone was trying to outlaw one but not the other.
WhiteTigerShiro said:
Whether you consider those major or minor differences, it's fairly narrow-minded to assume that the two are one in the same just because sex is involved in both cases. I mean come on, this is 2010, not 1910, we don't need to be so shy about the topic that we have to just slap it all under one label just so we can spare ourselves the embarrassment of studying the topic to learn the difference.LOL what? You're trolling, right?

WhiteTigerShiro said:
Considering some of the ways people abuse plenty of legally sold objects (be it drugs, guns, whatever), I highly doubt that legalizing prostitution would make all the problems associated with it go away. Heck, authorities have a hard enough time with the trade knowing that they need to arrest anyone involved, imagine the headache of having to deal with figuring out who's legit and who's illegally prostituting and dealing with forged IDs, etc etc... it's just easier to keep it illegal (despite the fact that frankly I agree you on it being legal).So, let me get this straight... you're saying that requiring police to commit resources to tracking down and arresting as many prostitutes as possible creates less work for law enforcement? Um, ok. Cool story, bro.

WhiteTigerShiro said:
So would you say that everyone who smokes cigarettes is also a major stoner? After-all the reason most people get into pot is because cigarettes no longer satisfy their addiction, so every smoker must therefore be a stoner too.
People don't use pot as a stronger replacement for nicotine. That's a made-up fact so that you can make a fallacious argument. Considering the fact that those drugs function at different receptors, create different sensations, and have absolutely no cross-tolerance, I'm just going to laugh hysterically at that completely ridiculous statement and move on.
 

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Paksenarrion said:
Is it sad that I know almost all of them?
Nope,it just show that you most likely have a great interest in pornographic material.

OT:Why would I buy a video of two human humping when I could be watching some awesome hentai?
 

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RanD00M said:
Paksenarrion said:
Is it sad that I know almost all of them?
Nope, it just shows that you most likely have a great interest in pornographic material.

OT:Why would I buy a video of two human humping when I could be watching some awesome hentai?
...Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, and Toad pron? I was talking about the other picture...see, it was a joke, because someone else said the same thing about the porn stars, and I said the same thing about the other picture with the Nintendo characters and the tractor...?