PhiMed said:
WhiteTigerShiro said:
PhiMed said:
So, let me get this straight: You have sex for money, but you insist you're not a prostitute. Now, though, you're here to tell people that piracy is stealing? Pfft...
this isnt my name said:
It wont die, besides I would watch free porn, that is better and free. Theey cant say its bad to be watching free porn because, imo porn stars are pretty much hookers, only difference is hookers dont have a video camera. So if hookers are bad so is the person who is pretty much a hooker with a camera, so I would say im the one who is moraly questionable.
Besides I pay for my games and music, Im not paying for porn as well, especially when you want to save money.
There's a big difference between prostitution and pornography.
No, there's not. Unlike you, though, I'll actually make a point rather than making a statement and expecting it to serve as an argument. The only difference between a pornographic "performer" and a prostitute is being paid by a third party. That's not a big difference. If you know of another distinction, I'd appreciate you enlightening me.
Off the top of my head, I can think of three things.
1) Despite the work required, pornography is actually very clean. They're very very very strict about making sure that the actors are tested, and if you get a disease somehow BAM that's just it, you're done. Even if it's curable I don't think they'll let you work anymore even after it's cleared-up. Prostitution on the other hand... you don't know what the fuck you're getting tangled-up with, and that goes both ways. The prostitute doesn't know if you're clean, and you don't know if she's clean. Sure there might be a few honorable prostitutes who actually get themselves tested regularly and would stop if they get anything, but that's few and far between.
2) People trafficking. There have been no cases of an innocent woman being abducted from her normal life to be forced to work in the porn industry. Prostitution on the other hand? I'm sure that number has reached into the millions by now.
3) Pornography is basically making a movie. While it's two people being paid to have sex, it isn't frequent that either party enjoys the act due to various factors involved in making the shot look better. Prostitution, on the other hand, exists purely for the sake of providing sexual pleasure to the buyer. I suppose you could say it's like the difference between buying a burger from McDonald's and buying hamburger patties from your local grocery store. Sure it's food in both cases, but a restaurant and a grocery store are two very different establishments, and you'd look like an idiot trying to argue that a person working at one is the same as a person working the other.
Whether you consider those major or minor differences, it's fairly narrow-minded to assume that the two are one in the same just because sex is involved in both cases. I mean come on, this is 2010, not 1910, we don't need to be so shy about the topic that we have to just slap it all under one label just so we can spare ourselves the embarrassment of studying the topic to learn the difference.
For the record, I don't think this fact makes pornography inherently less moral. I think prostitution should be legal and regulated, which would stop a lot of the abuses associated with the practice.
Considering some of the ways people abuse plenty of legally sold objects (be it drugs, guns, whatever), I highly doubt that legalizing prostitution would make all the problems associated with it go away. Heck, authorities have a hard enough time with the trade knowing that they need to arrest anyone involved, imagine the headache of having to deal with figuring out who's legit and who's illegally prostituting and dealing with forged IDs, etc etc... it's just easier to keep it illegal (despite the fact that frankly I agree you on it being legal).
Arguing that performers aren't prostitutes is ridiculous, though, especially when you consider the fact that well over half of them eventually use their fame to become extremely high-priced escorts.
So would you say that everyone who smokes cigarettes is also a major stoner? After-all the reason most people get into pot is because cigarettes no longer satisfy their addiction, so every smoker must therefore be a stoner too.