"It's totally okay if the girls are hot!": Hypocrisy and The World

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sleeperhit79

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guilty as charged. I used to be like that then i saw the reality of lesbians and ended up working with a few lesbians and I came to realize we don't really know what we're talking about and we don't even know what lesbians are. Sure tv and adult films show them as well two hot chicks and in reality lesbians are about as hot as everyone else...look at the real people around you and realize the percentage of hot lesbians is equal to the percentage of hot people so when you finally do meet a lesbian couple and realize it's not two megan foxes you too will get over it.
 

Booze Zombie

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Is it wrong that I'm a guy who goes "I don't like watching men kiss" but then I go "I like watching women kiss"?

I mean, I don't hate on gay men, I just... well, I don't want to see men kissing each other.

Sigh...
 

300lb. Samoan

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JemJar said:
Men regularly miss the point that lesbians don't want anything to do with them. There can be no fantasy of joining in: they're going to basically retch and tell you to eff off.
Yea, but what if they don't? What if they say "well this one is kind of cute, let's have some fun!" What a fantastic prospect!

Another T-Shirt Hell favorite: You can't spell manslaughter without laughter
 

nokelso

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300lb. Samoan said:
JemJar said:
Men regularly miss the point that lesbians don't want anything to do with them. There can be no fantasy of joining in: they're going to basically retch and tell you to eff off.
Yea, but what if they don't? What if they say "well this one is kind of cute, let's have some fun!" What a fantastic prospect!

Another T-Shirt Hell favorite: You can't spell manslaughter without laughter
Trust me, most lesbians are repulsed by penises, kinda the point to why they like women more.
 

300lb. Samoan

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nokelso said:
Trust me, most lesbians are repulsed by penises, kinda the point to why they like women more.
Point is, that's what makes it such a great fantasy: it'll never happen in real life, but it would be awesome if it did.

EDIT: My 400th post was about lesbian fantasies. There's a strange sexual tale told in each of my gets, except for the single one which was about video games...
 

crypt-creature

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matthew_lane said:
Ha. wouldn't have thought we could sustain this topic for three pages, but just goes to show that people have very strong opinions on the subjst.

I personally oppose Gay Marriage, regardless of gender. Then again i pretty much oppose hetrosexual marriage as well. The institution of marriage long ago took a beating & has never fully recovered. If homosexual people want to be hitched in "Civil Union" i have no problem with this, but marriage already has enough "nuance" that its back breaking from a legal stand point, no need to shoe horn in any more "variety."

If you want to get "married" & all that, good for you. Just please understand that what you are trying to get out of it is going to be different from what hetrosexual people are going to want out of it. Marriage is wrapped up in psuedo-religous significance, but the actual act of marriage these days is a way to legally protect both partners & any off-spring. Along with fiscal support in case of (or as some people seem to think these days WHEN) marital divorce & the system is already having enough problem with that, without throwing in single gender marriage issues into the mix.

I believe their should be a recognised civil union system that is similar to marriage, while not being marriage. It would be built with Gay people as their demographic.

-M
The only problem I can see with that is people discriminating against the 'civil union' title. Say, a boss or corporation doesn't want/like gay people. They will have a heads up and can find another reason not to hire the person. Or someone who has some sort of power is going to out a homosexual when that person would rather keep their sexual preference to their self (it might not be likely but people have done worse for less).

Personally, I feel both terms 'civil union' and 'marriage' should be stricken from corporation and certain legal/government records. Have another word be made to identify the union between two people, and not certain sexes. Make both groups of people have the same benefits and options open to them as the other. People could use 'marriage' and 'civil union' for personal reasons, instead of legal ones (though, 'civil union' is a rather ugly term...a better one should replace that).

Single gender unions will have the same problems as their dual gender unions, a word shouldn't make that any more or less difficult (least one would think).
 

JaredXE

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nokelso said:
300lb. Samoan said:
JemJar said:
Men regularly miss the point that lesbians don't want anything to do with them. There can be no fantasy of joining in: they're going to basically retch and tell you to eff off.
Yea, but what if they don't? What if they say "well this one is kind of cute, let's have some fun!" What a fantastic prospect!

Another T-Shirt Hell favorite: You can't spell manslaughter without laughter
Trust me, most lesbians are repulsed by penises, kinda the point to why they like women more.

Well, truth be told, the penis IS kinda repulsive, which is one of the reasons I prefer women. I do happen to know a few lesbians though that have told me that they don't mind the penis, they like penetration, they just don't like the man that comes with it. The stereotypical male attitude is what turns them off.
 

jamesworkshop

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just to note that lesbian porn watched by women is Lesbian porn

2 girls is girl on girl when created for a hetrosexual male audience the idea behind it is that one of the females when you examine their behaviour is actualy a male by proxy
think of it this way their is a lot of underlying jealousy for a man to watch another man sleep with a woman that they find attractive so to have another female do it is less threatening.

Gay marrige bans are stupid besides all the gay guys I know consider marrige and even dating to be something that only Breeders do anyway.
 

thewerebuffalo

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I openly support gay-marriage and try to purge myself of any negative thoughts when I see a same-sex couple.

I say "try" because most people, believe it or not, have a societal response to gay couples, just as people do in regards to black male teenagers. If you think that in no way are you racist or homophobic you are wrong. regardless of what you say, there still exists that passing thought of fear. That is because there is an undercurrent of racism and homophobia that runs under the surface of our society ( In the US). The important thing is to notice such a reaction and try to throw it away. When I was 13 or something, I was afraid that gay men would be interested in me and that they would try and "Turn me gay". It was wrong of me to think that, but the same shit goes on all around the country. I overcame it and you (collective) should too. as to gay and racist jokes, I agree that if said with no personal animosity then jokes can be fine. Granted I am a caucasian male who had never (to my knowledge) been discriminated against so I may be talking out of my ass.

also additional discussion point. would you consider the derogative "Gay" as in "thats so gay" to negatively reinforce the culture? or is it divided in the sense the being gay no longer comes to mind when speaking it?
 

nokelso

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300lb. Samoan said:
nokelso said:
Trust me, most lesbians are repulsed by penises, kinda the point to why they like women more.
Point is, that's what makes it such a great fantasy: it'll never happen in real life, but it would be awesome if it did.
Now I just want to see a guy barge in on two lovey dovey lesbians, thinking he'll get some, and end up watching the two girls start to cry (well, I'd cry) and throw him out.
 

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I don't know how much the topic has strayed in 4 pages, and my point might have been brought-up already. But most people who are genuinely repulsed by homosexuals are equally disgusted by lesbian porn. Though I do know the demographic you're talking about (usually teenagers or adults in their 20s). Just pointing out that there are some people in their group who aren't as hypocritical about it.
 

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JaredXE said:
nokelso said:
300lb. Samoan said:
JemJar said:
Men regularly miss the point that lesbians don't want anything to do with them. There can be no fantasy of joining in: they're going to basically retch and tell you to eff off.
Yea, but what if they don't? What if they say "well this one is kind of cute, let's have some fun!" What a fantastic prospect!

Another T-Shirt Hell favorite: You can't spell manslaughter without laughter
Trust me, most lesbians are repulsed by penises, kinda the point to why they like women more.

Well, truth be told, the penis IS kinda repulsive, which is one of the reasons I prefer women. I do happen to know a few lesbians though that have told me that they don't mind the penis, they like penetration, they just don't like the man that comes with it. The stereotypical male attitude is what turns them off.
I'm kinda amused how I'm the complete opposite of that.
 

Mockingjay

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I hate all people like this. It makes me feel even more like shit for looking like I do. Not that I am gay, but you know what I mean.
 

CrystalShadow

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thewerebuffalo said:
I openly support gay-marriage and try to purge myself of any negative thoughts when I see a same-sex couple.

I say "try" because most people, believe it or not, have a societal response to gay couples, just as people do in regards to black male teenagers. If you think that in no way are you racist or homophobic you are wrong. regardless of what you say, there still exists that passing thought of fear. That is because there is an undercurrent of racism and homophobia that runs under the surface of our society ( In the US). The important thing is to notice such a reaction and try to throw it away. When I was 13 or something, I was afraid that gay men would be interested in me and that they would try and "Turn me gay". It was wrong of me to think that, but the same shit goes on all around the country. I overcame it and you (collective) should too. as to gay and racist jokes, I agree that if said with no personal animosity then jokes can be fine. Granted I am a caucasian male who had never (to my knowledge) been discriminated against so I may be talking out of my ass.

also additional discussion point. would you consider the derogative "Gay" as in "thats so gay" to negatively reinforce the culture? or is it divided in the sense the being gay no longer comes to mind when speaking it?
I do know where you're coming from here. I regularly catch myself out with thoughts that are clearly racist in nature.
Having said that, realising you have thoughts like that is the first step to actually making sure you don't let yourself treat others badly because of it.

As for the word gay itself, I can't comment since I have managed to get caught up in it's original meaning to the extent that it's hard to consider it an insult.
(being gay, in the original sense meant being happy - If you've ever seen the flintstones you'll know the opening song ends with the phrase "We'll have a gay old time")

... Wait. I'm getting sidetracked again. XD - Uh, I personally don't think of gay culture at all with regard to the phrase "That's so gay."

So, to me that phrase is kind of divorced of any relationship with Gays as such.