Just got banned from a TF2 server...

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ProfessorEkim

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Well I've been playing for awhile, and I really like the game.

I know you said you don't have friends, but MAKE FRIENDS! It gets so much better. You have the entire community here, don't you? I'm sure someone wants to help you out
 

MeatMachine

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TF2 takes a LONG time to break into... a long, long time. If you don't have the patience to suffer now to stand better later, there's no shame in just passing it up.
 

qeinar

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leet_x1337 said:
qeinar said:
picking a class you wanna play should really help tho since if you keep changing classes all the time it's hard to get better.
Problem is, the only class I ever feel like playing is the hardest one in the game to use. Hint: He's voiced by Nathan Vetterlein.
well i'd say the spy is probably harder to get into than a scout. : p not really manny good tactics for the scout tho, it's pretty straight forward. you just need good fast aim. : p also map knowledge for flanking routes and knowing where the health packs are so you can quickly grab them when needed. Also spies shouldn't be such a huge problem if your scouting since you run faster than a spy. your also a harder target for a sniper to hit.
 

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Fanta Grape said:
Check steam for a user named "Blignorance"

If you're still willing to give it a try, I'll give you the basics on the game that you'll want to know and little tips that help you get better. I'm not /that/ good myself but I make a pretty damn dangerous heavy, a decent soldier and a tricky spy.
So how well can you rocket jump? I've reached the ends of my ropes when repetitively failing to do a simple long-rocket jump.

As for medic? Are you kidding? Never have I played an FPS where I've had to manage my positioning to the umpteenth degree, while keeping my team healed, while scouting for spies and other flankers, while ubering with precise timing, while leading the target player of whom I've leashed myself to, while slowly getting better at using the near impossible syringe gun... How the hell is the medic boring?
 

qeinar

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MeatMachine said:
TF2 takes a LONG time to break into... a long, long time. If you don't have the patience to suffer now to stand better later, there's no shame in just passing it up.
well not for everyone, i recently got my mte to get the game and he was doing fairly well after the first gaming session me and him had. (a couple hours) he's pretty beast at other fps games tho, and we were voice chatting so i helped him with questions he had along the way. not saying he's a pro but he's a 2kd player on most servers we've played on. (not that k/d matters that much in tf2)
 

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This probably isn't the best thing for my first post on Escapist, but I had to come out of lurking to say this:

In the words of the Heavy: Cry some moar.
All of us were new and were getting backstabbed/headshotted when we started.


With that out of the way, I'll give some actual advice.

Rule 1 when playing TF2: EVERYTHING is a Spy. EVERYTHING. Spycheck EVERYONE. Even if it's obvious they're not a Spy (revved up Heavy, scoped-in Sniper, etc.) just get into the habit of it. Every 10 seconds or so, turn around. Even when your disguised.

Not having a mic is a non-issue. I don't have a mic and was in the top three of the past few games I've played.

Even though you like to play Spy, if you're new, DON'T. Spy requires extensive knowledge of the game, maps, modes, and (most importantly) classes. You need to know how each class is supposed to act, where they are likely to be, and so on. Some advice as Spy, though: If you ignore spychecks from non-Pyros (since you will burn your team color) most players will move on. Just think about what you do when your teammates are checking you.

While you are getting used to the different classes and maps, play Medic (even if it doesn't sound like you like that), Heavy, and especially Pyro. Another relatively easy one is Engineer on a CTF map. Just hide in a corner of the Intel room and build up and spycheck everyone that comes in with at least three shotgun blasts, preferably the whole clip. Also, don't go for melee kills as the Demo until you get a Chargin' Targe.

But the best advice I can give you is find a friendly server and spend time reading the Wiki. There is A LOT of useful information there. If you don't want to "waste your time," just read the Class Strategies part. (Also, it helps if you just play to have fun and not "to win." Personally that just causes me RAEG.)

Anyway, that's my advice. Feel free to ignore or embrace it. Once you get some drops and a friendly server, it'll get better.
 

qeinar

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CodeOrange said:
Fanta Grape said:
Check steam for a user named "Blignorance"

If you're still willing to give it a try, I'll give you the basics on the game that you'll want to know and little tips that help you get better. I'm not /that/ good myself but I make a pretty damn dangerous heavy, a decent soldier and a tricky spy.
So how well can you rocket jump? I've reached the ends of my ropes when repetitively failing to do a simple long-rocket jump.

As for medic? Are you kidding? Never have I played an FPS where I've had to manage my positioning to the umpteenth degree, while keeping my team healed, while scouting for spies and other flankers, while ubering with precise timing, while leading the target player of whom I've leashed myself to, while slowly getting better at using the near impossible syringe gun... How the hell is the medic boring?
go do some jump maps and you quickly get better at rocket jumping. ^^ Also i enjoy playing medic and it's as all other classes something you can get verry good at. some people find it boring, other's don't.
 

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leet_x1337 said:
...for asking for help changing teams from 'spectator' to 'actually playing'. Then I got muted, then insulted by someone who must have seen that I couldn't defend myself. And then I was kicked.
Wow, that don't seem right. A lot of the older players seem to have a rather large dislike of new players. Especially since it went free to play.

I know a couple o' friends I could hook you up with. They'll set you right & proper.
 

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I was driven away by my lack of PC shooter skills. I'm just outright terrible playing them on the PC and it makes me sad.

It seems like you ran into a group of unkind people, keep trying, there are nice people still playing that game I swear.
Yeah, I'll second that. I don't actually talk to people a lot in TF2, but when I do I can usually have a perfectly nice conversation.
Also, it just takes practise. I was never any good when I started out, but then I've always had fun when playing TF2. I guess I've always felt that if there were people out there better than me, that certainly wasn't going to stop me from having fun on the same servers.
Which servers do I think are good? Well I pretty much learned the basic in "Badwater - payload", but there are other payload maps I've come to love. It all depends on what you like to do and if anyone ever annoys you, just ignore them and try to make them your target. ;)
Also, once you learn which classes and items match up against the weaknesses of anyone you want to take down, start using those efficiently. For instance, if some guy's backstabbing you a lot, switch to Pyro and turn the tides with excessive use of your flamethrower. ;)
 

Zeema

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me and Wolf were playing it all day today and we were both so BAD. but by the end we were real pro
 

Fanta Grape

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CodeOrange said:
Fanta Grape said:
Check steam for a user named "Blignorance"

If you're still willing to give it a try, I'll give you the basics on the game that you'll want to know and little tips that help you get better. I'm not /that/ good myself but I make a pretty damn dangerous heavy, a decent soldier and a tricky spy.
So how well can you rocket jump? I've reached the ends of my ropes when repetitively failing to do a simple long-rocket jump.

As for medic? Are you kidding? Never have I played an FPS where I've had to manage my positioning to the umpteenth degree, while keeping my team healed, while scouting for spies and other flankers, while ubering with precise timing, while leading the target player of whom I've leashed myself to, while slowly getting better at using the near impossible syringe gun... How the hell is the medic boring?
I actually have a LOT of trouble rocket jumping. I played a lot of jumping maps and they got me to a playable standard, but I still go too high every time... I can get the height but not the length. For now, I find looking backwards while jumping does the trick. "Nooby", but yes...

and I know medic requires quite a bit of skill and all that jazz, and I play it a LOT (just because no-one else wants to) but there's no... moment. Too many times am I flanked by a random enemy from behind and even with mic, they don't help.

For example, once I was healing a demoman as we were pushing the cart but a surprise pyro came up to him and got him. I started running backwards and healed a sniper nearby, but he ran away and the pyro kept chasing after me. Then I healed a spy. Ran away. Then another pyro! RAN AWAY! Then I died.

Medic can be fun but usually with friends. I love going heavy-medic with my buddies, but with strangers, it's painful.
 

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Zyquux said:
Even though you like to play Spy, if you're new, DON'T.
It's Scout that I main. But thanks for the tips anyway. Thing is, doesn't acting like a 'stereotypical' [insert class here] just make you more suspicious?
 

SUPA FRANKY

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Try all the classes. Find the one that suits you.

Do you want someone who can at least run in case you get overwhelmed? The Scout is your man.

Do you have sucky aim? The Pyro can help.

ANother tip I can give is always keep moving. Don't stay in one place. Moving around makes you harder to shoot ( I know, obvious.)

Rather than going commando, work with your team. Don't go a anywhere unless you have backup.

Don't worry, I suck too. In fact, I usually die at least twice more than I kill. But I've found the class that suits me, and work at it. I'm mostly good at Pyro, Heavy,and Sniper( I am in love with the huntsman)
 

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Weird, I've never had a problem on the many servers I've played on. Well, one, but the admin was a crazy religious nut and didn't want anyone saying the lords name in vain. So "God Dammit" got me banned.
 

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leet_x1337 said:
It's Scout that I main. But thanks for the tips anyway. Thing is, doesn't acting like a 'stereotypical' [insert class here] just make you more suspicious?
It doesn't. The really obvious sign that someone is a spy is them heading in a bee line towards someones back.
 

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leet_x1337 said:
-I have no friends to help me get better.
This is not impossible to find. Look at the forums you're posting in - how many people here play TF2?
leet_x1337 said:
-Youtube videos don't help at all, because all I think is 'I wish I could do that...' rather than 'Okay, try that next time!'
If you expect anything to suddenly make you capable of something you're not capable of, you're going to be disappointed. Friendly advice can't make you suddenly able to do something you couldn't before and more than youtube videos can.
leet_x1337 said:
-People online are all complete douchebags. All. Including myself.
People who say things like this are usually right about the last bit, but there are plenty of nice, friendly people on the internet and there are plenty of nice, friendly people playing TF2.
leet_x1337 said:
-Fighting with bots is completely different to fighting real people.
This is true. Unless TF2 is one of your first FPSs and you need to practice aiming with a mouse and moving with WASD, bots probably won't help much.
leet_x1337 said:
-I seem to have a piece of paper taped to me saying 'Stab Me' or else I wouldn't be backstabbed worse than Gary 'Roach' Sanderson.
Certain classes attract a lot more backstabs. If you're getting stabbed a lot, try going pyro. You can always spam a tiny bit to check for cloaked spies and remember that lack of friendly fire means you can shoot teammates to check if they're spies.
leet_x1337 said:
-Same goes for headshots, but replace Roach with Jack Carver.
Again, some classes attract headshots more. Generally, the slower you are, the more you're going to attract them. The biggest part of avoiding being sniped however is learning the maps such that you can be wary of common sniping spots. And learning the maps doesn't take anything but time.
leet_x1337 said:
-I don't have natural talent.
Pretty much no one has natural talent for video games. If you want to get good at TF2, you have to play a lot of TF2. Watch videos and try to get an idea of what things to TRY and then try them until you get better at them.

Good servers are also a big part of the equation and not all server types are equal. You're much less likely to find jerks in something like a vanilla push server than you are in something like a fast-respawn 24/7 Two-fort server.

It also really helps to (1) stop caring about how much time you spend dead or alive - worry more about having fun instead of trying to get kills and stay alive and (2) start out playing as support classes - medics are virtually ALWAYS in high demand on public servers (worry more about staying alive and getting ubers as a medic rather than sticking with people when they venture too far forward) and engineer (watch where people commonly put buildings on maps and just emulate them, use the wiki and make sure you understand the mechanics of metal first).