Just got banned from a TF2 server...

[alucards1hell]

The community can be a bit nasty sometimes but sometimes there are real gems out there,

I was in a large trading lobby attempting to get rid of some of my scrap when I thought, I would love to get that achievement for smacking a guy over the head with the guitar (engineer). I put it into chat and I got a few people who really went out of their way to ensure I could get it done (took a fair few tries thanks to a nasty scout).

If you suck at it, just go a medic

 

[Woodsey]

"I spent more time dead than alive"

... in TF2? That's an achievement.

Well, dead than hitting stuff with bullets.

Roll a Heavy on a noob server. That'll help you break into it, shoot lots of stuff, and know the maps.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

If you are not having fun when you aren't winning well that is a whole other problem than not liking TF2. Just to add to this small point actually have a look at your binds before going into a match and write down the ones you might forget like change team/class on a piece of paper and keep it near you until you learn it.

Next everyone is shit when they start a game for the first time so this point is really irrelevant. Not to sound cold but every single person is shit when they start out especially you me and whoever happens to post above and below. We were all NEWBS(not nOOb) at one point and you are no exception.

On no help I got good or got the tools to be good by looking at the TF2 wiki. It literally took about 10 mins to read the general strategy for class and I mean the more detailed one. If you really and truly need someone to genuinely teach you there is this group [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/The-Escapist-Team-Fortress-2-Group-PC] that might have helped you if you searched for it.

This is just a small question but do you really even want to play on a server that abuses users as such? It is better blacklisted anyway.

Yes youtube videos do help but just because you watch one does not mean you will turn into the Jesus of TF2(Saxton Hale). It takes time to learn how to do things as previously addressed. For example it took me about 10 hours of practise to get rocket jumping right and even now after nearly 100 hours I still fuck it up from time to time. You really need to stop focusing on your short term performance.

I shouldn't even have to address this but no not everyone is a douche.

Once again I thought this would be obvious but yes fighting TF2 bots is completely different than fighting players as not only are bots always shit but they can't use the classes full potential. That aside you what killing bots on a server with some other people like the nightteam servers(although these are 24hour 1 map) does help your confidence and skills as early morning you have some bots and some people.

Spy and check and look behind you and on Snipers don't run in a straight line when there is a Sniper. This is simple TF2 stuff so the better you learn this the better for yourself and you may have less "easy" deaths. Also this will give you bad habits start out on an instant respawn server if you really find the downtime that bad.

Everyone has some natural talent and if you want help go to that group and ask others. I would say ask me but I am not the best TF2 player anyway but I am usually consistently above average on scores. I say usually as everyone has bad maps.

Sorry edit but on the spy thing you see a spy go down in 1 shot and it is not a crit and above his health he is using Dead Ringer. If you see yourself it is a spy. If you see someone who is running straight towards you or another player he is a spy or if he runs straight towards an engies buildings.

 

[Vohn_exel]

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I had the same problem with L4D. It was so irritating. I didn't know how to play, I couldn't figure out how to get my mic to work, and I had never played the zombies before. It was terrible, and some guy that sounds like Graham from LRR kicked me for being terrible, even though they knew it was my first time. I don't play online with randoms anymore...infact I rarely play the game at all, lol.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Check steam for a user named "Blignorance"

If you're still willing to give it a try, I'll give you the basics on the game that you'll want to know and little tips that help you get better. I'm not /that/ good myself but I make a pretty damn dangerous heavy, a decent soldier and a tricky spy.

So how well can you rocket jump? I've reached the ends of my ropes when repetitively failing to do a simple long-rocket jump.

As for medic? Are you kidding? Never have I played an FPS where I've had to manage my positioning to the umpteenth degree, while keeping my team healed, while scouting for spies and other flankers, while ubering with precise timing, while leading the target player of whom I've leashed myself to, while slowly getting better at using the near impossible syringe gun... How the hell is the medic boring?

I actually have a LOT of trouble rocket jumping. I played a lot of jumping maps and they got me to a playable standard, but I still go too high every time... I can get the height but not the length. For now, I find looking backwards while jumping does the trick. "Nooby", but yes...

and I know medic requires quite a bit of skill and all that jazz, and I play it a LOT (just because no-one else wants to) but there's no... moment. Too many times am I flanked by a random enemy from behind and even with mic, they don't help.

For example, once I was healing a demoman as we were pushing the cart but a surprise pyro came up to him and got him. I started running backwards and healed a sniper nearby, but he ran away and the pyro kept chasing after me. Then I healed a spy. Ran away. Then another pyro! RAN AWAY! Then I died.

Medic can be fun but usually with friends. I love going heavy-medic with my buddies, but with strangers, it's painful.

For long rocket jumps it is best not to use direct hit and aim backwards. Same technique for normal one ie crouch jump thing. For distance you aim it aim from you and not directly under you.

 

[Some_weirdGuy]

I was about to come in to give you some helpful advice, but i read through and it seems that you're just a bit of a prick.

"I mainly play scout, I rage when I get backstabbed/killed however I spend all my time standing still typing instead of avoiding attacks. I then yell at people who tell me to type less"

Like, seriously dude? You lost all sympathy with me right at that point there.

However, because I can't help myself:
1) When you're playing the game stfu and play it. Its idiotic to complain about getting killed because you stood around slowly typing out a conversation right out in the open. Only type whe you're safe(inside your spawn room).
Or get alot faster at typing.

2) Also, find an insta-spawn server. That way when you die you respawn straight away and get to play more instead of having to wait around a lot. When you get better at the game then you can see if you like normal respawns better, but till then just go insta-spawn.

3) finally, if you want friends who play team fortress 2 then theres two easy ways to do it:

1: Find a regular server (see, and this one even ties in with number 2 above^)
If you keep playing on the same server for a while, you're liable to notice a few regulars, and they might even start noticing you. You then add them to your friends list. Done, you've just got a friend who you can play tf2 with.

or
2: start adding people who are in your game with you.
-Did you just have a great round being a solider's pocket medic? add them to your friends list
-Did you have a game with someone who stood out to you as an interesting/fun person to play with? add them to your friends list
-Did you just get utterly dominated by someone (who still came across as good natured/nice person)? add them to your friends list.
-Did someone have a funny name? add them to your friends list. You dont even really need a reason. I get random friend requests all the time.

Worse comes to worse they reject your request and call you nasty names. ohhh noooooooooooooo. Otherwise, you've just scored yourself someone new to play tf2 with.

 

[Blind77]

If you suck at it, just go a medic

O_O

Since when is Medic considered the easiest class?

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

If you suck at it, just go a medic

O_O

Since when is Medic considered the easiest class?

No class is an easy class but Medic is a good starting class as it teaches you to dodge and be aware of what is going on as well as being a relatively invaluable member of the team as a medic is almost always needed.

 

[Android2137]

-I have no friends to help me get better.
-Youtube videos don't help at all, because all I think is 'I wish I could do that...' rather than 'Okay, try that next time!'
-People online are all complete douchebags. All. Including myself.
-Fighting with bots is completely different to fighting real people.
-I seem to have a piece of paper taped to me saying 'Stab Me' or else I wouldn't be backstabbed worse than Gary 'Roach' Sanderson.
-Same goes for headshots, but replace Roach with Jack Carver.
-I don't have natural talent.

Edit: People keep bringing up how finding a better server should deal with my douchebag problem. Give me a specific name and I'll try it out once I get it installed again. This is the Internet, remember: no pix, no proof.

-I don't have friends to help me get better either.
-Youtube has actually helped me somewhat, sorta kinda...
-Never had the guts to play online...
-So it's true then... Terrific... Just when I thought I was becoming a decent sniper... Practicing on the bots hasn't helped you at all?
-What classes do you typically play as? Because there are some maps where as an engineer, you can deliberately back yourself into a corner and set up sentries, dispensers, and teleporters directly over a health and/or ammo spawning point. Probably bad sportsmanship, but the bots never complained...
-I... I don't know what to tell you here.
-And bots really hasn't helped you improve? Because they taught me to aim before I shoot! (I am not kidding here. I'm a panicky person...)

Wanna be my Steam friend? I can take character death with grace and good humor! ...Or at least, I've been able to so far, but like I said, my opponents are bots... I've never been insulted after being killed before.

 

[Fanta Grape]

Check steam for a user named "Blignorance"

If you're still willing to give it a try, I'll give you the basics on the game that you'll want to know and little tips that help you get better. I'm not /that/ good myself but I make a pretty damn dangerous heavy, a decent soldier and a tricky spy.

So how well can you rocket jump? I've reached the ends of my ropes when repetitively failing to do a simple long-rocket jump.

As for medic? Are you kidding? Never have I played an FPS where I've had to manage my positioning to the umpteenth degree, while keeping my team healed, while scouting for spies and other flankers, while ubering with precise timing, while leading the target player of whom I've leashed myself to, while slowly getting better at using the near impossible syringe gun... How the hell is the medic boring?

I actually have a LOT of trouble rocket jumping. I played a lot of jumping maps and they got me to a playable standard, but I still go too high every time... I can get the height but not the length. For now, I find looking backwards while jumping does the trick. "Nooby", but yes...

and I know medic requires quite a bit of skill and all that jazz, and I play it a LOT (just because no-one else wants to) but there's no... moment. Too many times am I flanked by a random enemy from behind and even with mic, they don't help.

For example, once I was healing a demoman as we were pushing the cart but a surprise pyro came up to him and got him. I started running backwards and healed a sniper nearby, but he ran away and the pyro kept chasing after me. Then I healed a spy. Ran away. Then another pyro! RAN AWAY! Then I died.

Medic can be fun but usually with friends. I love going heavy-medic with my buddies, but with strangers, it's painful.

For long rocket jumps it is best not to use direct hit and aim backwards. Same technique for normal one ie crouch jump thing. For distance you aim it aim from you and not directly under you.

If I try to aim backwards, I tend to go off on a tangent and aren't able to go forward

 

[Arachkid]

I understand, some prick banned me just because I wouldn't play another class. I think that dude gets off on telling people what to do.

 

[jack583]

FuGserver community
good folks there

 

[steeple]

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well, I'm not the greatest myself, but I do end up usually with about a 1.0 k/d ratio...
my only good suggestion would be to just try and have fun, regardless of how badly you'll play, and eventually it will come to you. that's how I got better into the game after less then a month of playing...

also, if you're searching for tf2 buddies, just ask. I'm sure most people over here (myself included) would be happy to play with/against fellow escapist's

 

[Circusfreak]

its a bit crude to say that everyone online is a doucebag.
Teamfortress 2 actually has very few ragetrolls comapred to other shooters (atleast on the PC)
i started playing TF2 before all my friends did. I taught myself, i read the tips in the loading screens, and i got taught a bunch of things from both my mistakes and from other people on the servers.
you have no excuses.

 

[AhumbleKnight]

(Use your own discretion, I'm sure you know how to make friends).

Finally you could move to Australia. We don't have as many server's as you guys but most people on there seem fairly nice. Again it's all about picking the right servers and this is something you'll learn with time.

Two things:
-I have never had real friends in my entire life.
-I already live in Australia.

I have no problems with people in the servers I play on. If your having issues, ask. Sometimes you might get lucky and there might be somebody like me on who will help you out for a bit.

There has already been some good advice here about enjoying the little victories. I have been playing for ages but when I started I sucked. I am talking seriously bad. I only put in the time at all because some of my mates played. It took me a few weeks of playing before I even started to enjoy it. A week for a map would end with me getting more than 5 kills, on 2fort, with the solly. So yeah, I sucked. Now however, over 1k hours and I have had some awesome fun.

Edit: also, only play for fun. Don't get competative. It's not worth it. Thats what clans and scrims are for (until you are crazy good you wont even get invited into one).

 

[Tim Mazzola]

...for asking for help changing teams from 'spectator' to 'actually playing'. Then I got muted, then insulted by someone who must have seen that I couldn't defend myself. And then I was kicked.

You know what? Team Fortress 2 has given me more grief than any other game in existence. Why did I spend 20 dollars on it? It was stupid while it lasted. I sucked at it, everyone online hates me, I spent more time dead than alive, all the advice I received was both painfully obvious and completely useless...Fuck this game.

Edit: In terms of people saying 'You hate it because you're bad at the game':
-I have no friends to help me get better.
-Youtube videos don't help at all, because all I think is 'I wish I could do that...' rather than 'Okay, try that next time!'
-People online are all complete douchebags. All. Including myself.
-Fighting with bots is completely different to fighting real people.
-I seem to have a piece of paper taped to me saying 'Stab Me' or else I wouldn't be backstabbed worse than Gary 'Roach' Sanderson.
-Same goes for headshots, but replace Roach with Jack Carver.
-I don't have natural talent.

Edit: People keep bringing up how finding a better server should deal with my douchebag problem. Give me a specific name and I'll try it out once I get it installed again. This is the Internet, remember: no pix, no proof.

If the game ain't your thing, it ain't your thing, bro. If you ain't playing this... (looks at your Avatar) you'll have more time to try 1ccing Subterranean Animism on Lunatic

 

[Aprilgold]

...for asking for help changing teams from 'spectator' to 'actually playing'. Then I got muted, then insulted by someone who must have seen that I couldn't defend myself. And then I was kicked.

You know what? Team Fortress 2 has given me more grief than any other game in existence. Why did I spend 20 dollars on it? It was stupid while it lasted. I sucked at it, everyone online hates me, I spent more time dead than alive, all the advice I received was both painfully obvious and completely useless...Fuck this game.

Edit: In terms of people saying 'You hate it because you're bad at the game':
-I have no friends to help me get better.
-Youtube videos don't help at all, because all I think is 'I wish I could do that...' rather than 'Okay, try that next time!'
-People online are all complete douchebags. All. Including myself.
-Fighting with bots is completely different to fighting real people.
-I seem to have a piece of paper taped to me saying 'Stab Me' or else I wouldn't be backstabbed worse than Gary 'Roach' Sanderson.
-Same goes for headshots, but replace Roach with Jack Carver.
-I don't have natural talent.

Edit: People keep bringing up how finding a better server should deal with my douchebag problem. Give me a specific name and I'll try it out once I get it installed again. This is the Internet, remember: no pix, no proof.

No pix, no proof, really? Ok, first of all, read the wiki, the thing will ANSWER ALLALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS, while watching tutorials, watch what they do, read what they SAY to do, Evil Daedoulus is great for tutorials. Just keep playing, the thing between TF2 and other FPS's is that the game requires SKILL to play.
And for douchebags, keep trying, you'll find one you like eventually.

 

[Sgt_Jakeman214]

For reference, try getting into the DotA community, or any of its clones. No one will help you learn the ropes, teh AI is worthless and by the time you figure out how to play, the metagame and way to play has changed.

Roll with it and try to find a local server, with local people, they're usually nicer. Public games are just scum of the earth looking for n00bs to take out and make their k/d ratio higher. assholes.

I will. Send me a message when DOTA 2 hits and I will teach you the game from the ground up. Same goes to anyone else.

Making judgements based on a few experiences doesn't give you a perspective on the entire playerbase.

Thanks for the offer, but I played way back in the v5.6 till about v6.2 days. I've got probably 300+ hours in DotA on the Garena servers, playing mostly Aussies (That's were I live), back then. Event then, the community was bad, and you were expected to play each character a certain way with certain items or you'd get deserted to die, then accused of feeding and booted. I tried about 3 months ago to get back into DotA, only to find out the community is worse than ever.

 

[Jnat]

Why did you remove your post with the edit? Now I'll never know what you said...