Just stupid! The things people believe!

[Cab00se206]

1) I only mentioned Buddha and Muhammed to offer some comparisons and as such they DO have a bearing on this argument. If it's true of those two religions (or at least just Islam) it might be true of Christianity as well.

2) If you don't trust the Church (I don't blame you), how can you trust whatever source you're using? If the Church burned the older documents and killed the questioners, what information are you going on? If it's information obtained recently through archeological digs and such, then by your own reasoning it's useless because this information was recorded after the fact.

3) Just because they opposed the Church, that doesn't mean that the opposers automatically told the truth. They may have had their own motivations, say...undermining an entity that they saw as a threat.

Just to rebut 2 of your arguments
1) The existence of Mohammad is not evidence of the existence of Jesus. We are debating historical evidence to their existence, not probability.

3) (this is in response to your 3rd argument, I am not a numerical tard) Just because they ARE the Church, that doesn't mean that they automatically tell the truth. They may have had their own motivations, say...undermining an entity that they saw as a threat.

 

[Haliwali]

Uh guys, take the religious stuff to PM, it's better suited there. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to discuss this, but this is neither the time nor place, and religious off topic usually gets threads locked.

 

[Cab00se206]

(Hi, me again. Ive got nothing better to do so I'm just spamming a couple of forums hoping that something intelligent falls out by accident.)

You know the whole "living under power lines causes cancer" bollocks that caused a big scare? Well, apart from being demonstratively false, it turns out that gullible people also have short memories. A couple of years later a cure for several health issues, including cancer and indigestion, was to strap a magnet to your ankle, which somehow cured you.

The big scare about power lines was the electromagnetic field created by the electricity passing through the wires, which occurs in every electrical circuit, could somehow fuck with your body, causing cancer. Now, some time later, people are expected to go around with THE SAME MAGNETIC FIELDS strapped to their bodies. Imported Japanese magnets were best, apparently.

It's kind of sad isn't it?

 

[Haliwali]

I think as long as we can keep things civilized, discussing spiritual matters over an off-topic forum is just fine. However, these things hardly ever stay civilized over forums. There is always someone, or many people, who go over the edge and purposefully try to offend.

I'm serious, this has happened before, and it will happen again. Unless you have a mods permission, don't start a religion topic. Besides, that's off topic to begin with.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I think as long as we can keep things civilized, discussing spiritual matters over an off-topic forum is just fine. However, these things hardly ever stay civilized over forums. There is always someone, or many people, who go over the edge and purposefully try to offend.

I'm serious, this has happened before, and it will happen again. Unless you have a mods permission, don't start a religion topic. Besides, that's off topic to begin with.

Yeah, there's just some things that lead to a lock; even UltraJoe's topic about how to stop the lock got locked.

 

[Xhumed]

I think as long as we can keep things civilized, discussing spiritual matters over an off-topic forum is just fine. However, these things hardly ever stay civilized over forums. There is always someone, or many people, who go over the edge and purposefully try to offend.

I'm serious, this has happened before, and it will happen again. Unless you have a mods permission, don't start a religion topic. Besides, that's off topic to begin with.

Yeah, there's just some things that lead to a lock; even UltraJoe's topic about how to stop the lock got locked.

*falls out of bed laughing*

 

[Ultrajoe]

I think as long as we can keep things civilized, discussing spiritual matters over an off-topic forum is just fine. However, these things hardly ever stay civilized over forums. There is always someone, or many people, who go over the edge and purposefully try to offend.

I'm serious, this has happened before, and it will happen again. Unless you have a mods permission, don't start a religion topic. Besides, that's off topic to begin with.

Yeah, there's just some things that lead to a lock; even UltraJoe's topic about how to stop the lock got locked.

*falls out of bed laughing*

*weeps*

 

[Johnn Johnston]

*avoids quote tower*

Did Joe's thread about how to avoid a lock actually get locked? If it did, that is brilliant irony.

 

[Gemini3333]

She also beleives the moon landing was fake.

I'll be honest, so do I. Not in a conspiricy sort of way, but more of an, it's a good trillion miles from us. How did they 1: Get there in the course of a week 2: why haven't we gone back and 3: We didn't actually have the technology to safely store a reproducing supply of oxygen until the later seventies early eighties. (I think we just really wanted to beat them ruskies.)

1) once out of the gravitational pull of earth, there's no air to slow you down, so (in theory) you can accelerate exponentially, and (eventually) break lightspeed. SO, all they had to do was accelerate, not to lightspeed, but it got them there REALLY quick.

2) we did, several times, but there's a limit to how much wandering around on a barren rock can tell us, so the moon landings were scrapped to save money.

3) Oxygen on the apollo wasn't reproducing, there were these whacking great bottles of it, just like you get when you go diving.

and besides, if nobody anded on the moon WHY CAN YOU SEE THE FLAG THEY PLANTED?

no need to argue your point mate, honestly your correct and we both know it but odds are that everyone whos against it is still gonna find a way to beleive what they do, that's how religions survive modern day challanges

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Scientology is the one true religion! All your thetans are belong to us!

what i love about Scientology is that when you look at it's structure and how it lures people in, you realize that it is just a streamlined recombination of various other religions in order to maximize ones attachement to it.

the best example is the notion of thetans. if you purchase Dianetics, it creats the semantical construct for thetans but by the time you finish reading the book, you run around wondering "How do i get rid of thetans?". oh wait, there's this great organization called Scientology that excels at getting rid of thetans...

all the while people don't realize that L Ron created the fake problem and the fake solution.

now just replace the word "thetan" for "sin" and you'll see where they got the concept from. just totally awesome, you could probably learn how to start a cult just from deconstructing Scientology and how it compares to other major religious works.

 

[hazakura]

O.k. I didn't mean to start a religious forum (But its turning into one.)
please Turn back towards the whole "dolphins are smarter and more evolved with humans"(Which is just stupid) Thing (Meaning things that are just Plainly ridicules) ,Please, I don't want this to get locked or me getting banned. *shivers*

 

[Gahars]

Not quite directly related to this, but I still find it hilarious that the Catholic Church condemn the Harry Potter books for promoting witchcraft, despite the fact that witchcraft obviously doesn't exist!

Oh, that silly Pope and his followers.

When will they learn?

 

[wewontdie11]

To be honest, I find it hard to believe that religion still exists in modern culture. I have no problems with anyone else believing what they want, its their business, but if you attempted to start a religion with some of the frankly crazy sounding ideologys and stories around which most world religions are based today had they not already been created, you'd be thrown in a loony bin instantly.

 

[hazakura]

Did none of you just here what I said?