i have seen chowder that show is funny and a acid trip - side note the main catering company the shows focuses on sort of looks like a bong just watch and seeGrizzlyCow said:
Kids Shows Suck Today
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I know it is quite hard to tell because of nostalgia, so I tried to compare newer series to older ones (like from when my dad was young) and I'd still say the new ones are rubbish. You know, I'm seriously worried about what the Hannah Montana generation will do to the world.
But on the other hand, it's awesomeAmethyst Wind said:
OT: Yeah, I can relate to this. Turn on Nickelodeon for maybe a half hour and you'll see what he means . . .
Ah, Good Times, Good Times, watched it before going to bed.Soviet Heavy said:
Tom and Jerry, Transformers, Flintstones , Winnie The P00h(YES IT'S STILL GOOD) all the good ol' classics.
I'm glad I was born in the 90s; I dislike the Looney Toons-styled cartoons. Not only do I find them mostly not funny but offensive (not offensive as in the Moral Guardian sense, but offensive as in the "Coon"-sense).Grounogeos said:
Anyway, I digress, you're bullshit, and your argument is bullshit:
1st) Dora the Explorer's targeted demographic is toddlers and young children. Looney Toons-styled cartoons' targeted demographic are preadolescences and up. Dora the Explorer carters to an extremely specific demographic, and Looney Toons appeals to a larger group. It is reasonable that you don't like because--pay attention now--because you were not meant to like it! Comparing the two shows your bias.
2nd) Like I mentioned before, it all boils down to your opinion. Yeah, you liked cartoons from a time ago, and yeah, people here seems to agree with that. Don't take it as a fact that cartoons' quality is in decline. It is your opinion that cartoons back then were better than cartoons today. The whole subject is bullshit because the whole matter is subjective. This thread is for people to ***** about shows on today that they don't like.
3rd) Looney Toons wasn't a kids show. It was a cartoon for young adults (young men to be exact), but most people apparently thought it was okay for their children to watch. When I asked before, it was rhetorical.
4th) This thread is probably a flamebait when I think about it. The subject matter is too subjective to have any discussion over. The OP must have been a troll. It's that, or he was some idiot bitching about kids shows today because they don't pander to his opinions.
I might be put in probation because of this post. Oh, well, I guess...
Remember Johnny Bravo? One of the guys who worked on that went on to become Seth McFarlane, and made Family Guy and American Dad.
Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy at least ended with some closure (feature length episode where Eddy finds his brother, awesome way to end it)
If you live in the UK, you can watch all the old cartoons on Cartoon Network at about 2AM on a show called 'Cartoon Cartoons'
Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy at least ended with some closure (feature length episode where Eddy finds his brother, awesome way to end it)
If you live in the UK, you can watch all the old cartoons on Cartoon Network at about 2AM on a show called 'Cartoon Cartoons'
You're just as susceptible to nostalgia, but unlike other people, you are too stubborn to admit you're wrong. The fact is you're doing what all the other "Older is better" fanboys are, comparing the worse of today with the best of yesterday. You can't even admit that it is all in your opinion.... It is not just nostalgia that binds you but fanboyism, too. You admire the past and can't comprehend something being better, so you think your opinions as facts and try to pass them off as so.LogicNProportion said:
P.S.
If you want to see the very best of the 50s or 60s, dress up as a black man and go to the past that way. Society began degrading in the 80s, he says. Become black and go to those times, and then you can tell me that society was better.
I'm outtie, ya'll. For real. If you got something to say, private message me.
-GC
So I'm a troll now, huh? I thought this thread was rather civil in comparison to others I've seen. Anyway, I feel this post is more flame bait than anything else that has been stated in this thread. But I don't like being called a troll, and I don't like being called an idiot.GrizzlyCow said:
Of course things are going to be subjective! There has never once been a time when everyone agrees unanimously, that is why there is discussion in the first place. I feel concerned that children's shows have lost meaning nowadays. Yes, I am biased towards older shows that I grew up with, but I can not go into a new kids show and find any redeeming features that were present when I grew up.
So now a topic that you've already stated was subjective can be considered wrong? So you accuse others of fanboyism because they don't agree with your opinion? So now your opinions give you the right to tell others that their own opinions are wrong?GrizzlyCow said:
I don't think they suck as much as it is that we grew up used to different kids shows. Example: I am 22, when Rocko's Modern Life, Animaniacs, and All That was on I thought it was great. I grew up with shows like them on, though of course there were shows I did not like as well. Shows like Icarly or Chowder are shows I am not used to. When the children in this generation turn my age they will think shows like Icarly and Chowder were great.
Ah, how I love to rant about this.
When I was younger (I am currently about to turn 17) there were three main TV giants:
-Disney
-Cartoonnetwork
-Nick
With Fox sprinkled in there as well.
Quickly the Disney Channel fell out of contention, as their stuff was far too bland and unoriginal to compete.
So Nick and Cartoonnetwork duked it out for a while.
Nick had Spongebob, CatDog, My Life as a Teenaged Robot, Danny Phantom, Rocket Power, and Fairly Odd Parents
Cartoonnetwork had Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, Ed, Edd, 'n' Eddy, Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends, and even the Powerpuff girls.
(I'm leaving out a lot for sake of my memory)
As I recall, Nick had the better TV movies, but Cartoonnetwork continued with strong shows like Megas XLR and Kids Next Door, and with the help of Toonami, shut Nick down.
For a while, it seemed like that would stay forever.
Until 2007.
As I've heard, around that time, CN came under new management. A man who had a "New vision" for CN. So, from this, we lost much of the old, classic CN and the newer, still great stuff, including Megas XLR, my favorite cartoon of all time, and not to mention TOM4, who was easily the stupidest host of Toonami.
The shows got worse and worse, with shows like Chowder, and Flapjack, and even the older shows like Fosters Home and The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy got noticably worse.
As I recall, and always keep an avy to remind me, I cound the death of Cartoonnetwork on September 20, 2008, when Toonami aired its final session.
I remember going into High School the next day and telling people about it, showing them the signing off video, and no one could believe that that epic block had finally died off.
I have a seperate rant for Toonami, but my point is, Cartoons today, this Flapjack, The Mighty B, Total Drama [BLANK], they're all just shells of the old, incredibly original, witty, and well written shows, almost like the writers and producers don't take us seriously anymore. Well, I don't take THEM seriously anymore, and they lost a viewer permenantly on that day.
Bang.
When I was younger (I am currently about to turn 17) there were three main TV giants:
-Disney
-Cartoonnetwork
-Nick
With Fox sprinkled in there as well.
Quickly the Disney Channel fell out of contention, as their stuff was far too bland and unoriginal to compete.
So Nick and Cartoonnetwork duked it out for a while.
Nick had Spongebob, CatDog, My Life as a Teenaged Robot, Danny Phantom, Rocket Power, and Fairly Odd Parents
Cartoonnetwork had Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, Ed, Edd, 'n' Eddy, Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends, and even the Powerpuff girls.
(I'm leaving out a lot for sake of my memory)
As I recall, Nick had the better TV movies, but Cartoonnetwork continued with strong shows like Megas XLR and Kids Next Door, and with the help of Toonami, shut Nick down.
For a while, it seemed like that would stay forever.
Until 2007.
As I've heard, around that time, CN came under new management. A man who had a "New vision" for CN. So, from this, we lost much of the old, classic CN and the newer, still great stuff, including Megas XLR, my favorite cartoon of all time, and not to mention TOM4, who was easily the stupidest host of Toonami.
The shows got worse and worse, with shows like Chowder, and Flapjack, and even the older shows like Fosters Home and The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy got noticably worse.
As I recall, and always keep an avy to remind me, I cound the death of Cartoonnetwork on September 20, 2008, when Toonami aired its final session.
I remember going into High School the next day and telling people about it, showing them the signing off video, and no one could believe that that epic block had finally died off.
I have a seperate rant for Toonami, but my point is, Cartoons today, this Flapjack, The Mighty B, Total Drama [BLANK], they're all just shells of the old, incredibly original, witty, and well written shows, almost like the writers and producers don't take us seriously anymore. Well, I don't take THEM seriously anymore, and they lost a viewer permenantly on that day.
Bang.
Looking at shows then and now, I think I was drawn mostly to things that either had an air of the insane to a basically plausible set of characters and plot or an air of the plausible around a batshit crazy set of characters and plot. It's difficult to create a workable show with that in an episode, let alone SEASONS worth of it. It's much easier to make something completely bananas or toss in bits of banana when you think people are looking for it, but there are only so many ways of blending the sane and insane into something enjoyable. People find and use these ways too quick for their franchise, and then they either get repetitive or they get stupid.
Okay, I realize its not a kid show, but The Simpsons can be used to show the degradation of Cartoons over the years.
Looking back, Seasons 1-10 were the Simpsons all time high points. Now, compare those with today's seasons, and they are fucking terrible.
This example is fact, because I am still part of the Simpsons target demographic, and if I can find a decay in recent episodes in comparison to older ones, that is not nostalgia blinding me.
Looking back, Seasons 1-10 were the Simpsons all time high points. Now, compare those with today's seasons, and they are fucking terrible.
This example is fact, because I am still part of the Simpsons target demographic, and if I can find a decay in recent episodes in comparison to older ones, that is not nostalgia blinding me.
Well, if this quote is any indication of what your future responses will be like, I'm probably wasting my time, but I still think this needs to be said:GrizzlyCow said:
There's absolutely no reason to get this hostile over someone trying to explain how they see something. And I fail to see how my opinion is any more biased than your response to my opinion is.
Whenever it comes to how people feel about certain things, there's going to be bias. I suggest you either get used to that fact and stop attacking people over insignificant forum posts, or you stop looking at forum posts altogether.