Kids to be banned from playing tag outside.

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Prof. Monkeypox

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And then parents get mad at their kids for never going outside to play. D'aww isn't that cute.

I am tired of this. I've visited my family in France and they don't have nearly this kind of restriction. I actually gawked at the sort of things the school encouraged my little cousins to do, and felt jealous that my childhood was never that cool or fulfilling, and things have only gotten more restrictive since then.

So screw it, let our kids grow up to be unfulfilled agoraphobics afraid of their own shadow. Let them be socially, mechanically, and physically incompetent. Let them be hermetically sealed away "for their own protection" and waste their short pathetic lives without ever having truly lived. I weep for them, but if we're going to go all out on this madness as a country, may as well get it out of the way.

At least nobody will get sued, right?
 

linkvegeta

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people are over obsessing about safety and saving peoples lives, which morally is a good thing but its just going to hurt us all in the end with this massive overpopulation problem we already have.
 

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
Divine Miss Bee said:
i don't like the idea, but in this specific case, banning kids from playing in roads and parking lots sounds like a good idea. if i was a parent, i would want my kids to find safer places to play. of course, i wouldn't let them play in the road anyway... >.<
Not arguing with you as such but surely the normal reaction would be to provide the kids with somewhere else to play. Rather than ban what they are doing. Push and pull factors and all that.
this is true, but by the sound of it it's all concrete there, no place to out up a playground. i'd be all for fencing in the roof and putting a park up there, but then you'd get dcrazy people talking about the dangers of it.
 

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Good job.
The article says it's a bunch of cretinous old crones that don't want damned kids playing on their metaphorical lawns, and all the wannabe cretinous old crones start screaming to high heaven about overprotective parents and lawsuits and blah blah blah, and then of course segue immediately into their well-rehearsed "political correctness gone mad" rants.

Did the OP just post the wrong link, or should everyone here just be locked away from human contact?
 

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yndsu said:
TheIronRuler said:
The funny part is that the same parents let their Television educate their children, and let the school give them social and moral values.
That is the sad part.
There is pretty much no value what so ever in TV.
And in the schools there is no moral nor social values.
I beg to differ, my school did teach me moral and social values.
Their efficiency is lacking. At some point I switched to a different view, one that draws heavily on objectivism, but is not entirely derived from.
An example to establish my point, I would let an old man my seat in a bus but if I had to chooce between saving myself or a mother with a child I would save myself.
My kid brother has the Television educate him and I try desperately to keep him away from it and try to talk to him about anything, mainly to further his vocabulary (the little bloke is four years old) but also to keep him away from the television.
 

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Divine Miss Bee said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
Divine Miss Bee said:
i don't like the idea, but in this specific case, banning kids from playing in roads and parking lots sounds like a good idea. if i was a parent, i would want my kids to find safer places to play. of course, i wouldn't let them play in the road anyway... >.<
Not arguing with you as such but surely the normal reaction would be to provide the kids with somewhere else to play. Rather than ban what they are doing. Push and pull factors and all that.
this is true, but by the sound of it it's all concrete there, no place to out up a playground. i'd be all for fencing in the roof and putting a park up there, but then you'd get dcrazy people talking about the dangers of it.
Yeah exactly, As much as I am a tech geek I still think kids should play outside. That's why I bought my nephew a ds rather than a console.
 

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every parent needs to watch this video
http://www.atom.com/funny_videos/shorties_mcgrew_mom/
 

Divine Miss Bee

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
Divine Miss Bee said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
Divine Miss Bee said:
i don't like the idea, but in this specific case, banning kids from playing in roads and parking lots sounds like a good idea. if i was a parent, i would want my kids to find safer places to play. of course, i wouldn't let them play in the road anyway... >.<
Not arguing with you as such but surely the normal reaction would be to provide the kids with somewhere else to play. Rather than ban what they are doing. Push and pull factors and all that.
this is true, but by the sound of it it's all concrete there, no place to out up a playground. i'd be all for fencing in the roof and putting a park up there, but then you'd get dcrazy people talking about the dangers of it.
Yeah exactly, As much as I am a tech geek I still think kids should play outside. That's why I bought my nephew a ds rather than a console.
kids should play outside. i played outside all the time, and i loved it. of course, i had a yard to run around in, and there was no threat of imminent death by vehicle. this is why all neighborhoods need parks and playgrounds.
 

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The .50 Caliber Cow said:
http://www.clickorlando.com/family/27381829/detail.html

O.O

Honestly, I'm disgusted with how obsessed parents are with kid safety these days. This isn't the only place I've heard of where parents are limiting kids from having fun. On the radio the other day I heard a dad who was describing a school that sent out a letter to all parents because two kids were arm wrestling. Not violent fighting or anything, just who can wrestle their opponent's arm down. I also heard about a summer camp for kids where they've banned ball tag.

Ugh.

So, do you people have opinions on how kids are overprotected these days? Oh sure, supervision is important depending on how long you leave kids out to play but they need to learn to fend for themselves.

Your thoughts Escapist?
I've talked about this before, albiet in connection to other issues. This isn't an isolated incident, we've already had kids prevented from going outside to play through the majority of the country, albiet it's usually done in a far more indirect fashion.

Typically I bring this kind of thing up as a counterpoint to the anti-video game lobby where there are people screaming that kids are obsese because they sit inside playing video games all day as opposed to going outside to play, when the point that the kids can't do that is almost entirely overlooked. Probably because it's a piecemeal thing, as opposed to any kind of federal regulation. It's developed slowly, community by community.

Safety is one of the issues oftentimes brought to the forefront, as are private property rights. Simply put a lot of adults don't want kids cutting through their yards, or making a scene in front of their houses. The whole thing being the quintessential "you young whipper snappers get off my lawn" except instead of an old man yelling and waving a cane, it's an old man talking on the phone with a lawyer and going after the parents for the kid's tresspassing. Given that if a kid injures themself playing, there are liability issues, either for the property owner, or for the town if this happens on public property, there are also some very material concerns. One requirement in a lot of places is simply that kids have to be escorted by an adult to play, even when visiting playgrounds and similar areas, which for practical purposes means they *CAN'T* go to the playground and play if their parents are busy, and in today's world where both parents typically have to work situations where they can be escorted are increasingly uncommon. This is why you see so many empty playgrounds and such.

There are no easy solutions to these problems. You can't even get on people's cases for ridiculous liability claims, because if a kid is injured the parents are going to do whatever is nessicary to get them treated, if they can't afford it, they are going to sue. The alternative of simply not letting the kids out for fear of injury they can't handle on their part goes to the same place. In cases where there is insurance involved, the insurance companies might be the ones who will go after the town or property owner to mitigate their own costs, perhaps without the injured party/parents ever knowing about it. Basically if Jr. breaks his leg at the local playground, Dad's medical insurance might cover it, but when they find out it was an injury at the playground the insurance will themselves go after the town to try and recoup what it spent on the medical bills.

It's a mess, but in short the days of yore with carefree children running happily through neighborhoods, having all kinds of little adventures are gone, and actually have been for a while now, but few people noticed. It's also not an easily correcible problem, because there really isn't anyone being truely unreasonable on any side of this equasion. Even the businessman who doesn't want a bunch of kids hanging out in his parking lot being rowdy has a legitimate position here.

It's messed up in of itself, but even more messed up when you look at the positions people build up without realizing it. Right now I think the guys defending the game industry are a bunch of morons (which is why I have my doubts about the Supreme Court case at times, even if it's unrelated to this, but they are dumb on otherlevels) because when confronted by people talking about health risks and such, they rarely use the most obvious and effective methods of defense... instead focusing on trying to refute studies tying sedimentary lifestyles (and video games are by and large a sedimentary activity) to health problems, they should be pointing out that it's not video games causing these lifestyles, but rather it's a form of entertainment that has become popular largely because of people being forced into living those kinds of lifestyles. Want to address the issue? Then address the giant mess of issues preventing kids from playing outside, not the video games that are there for them when they are inside. Of course video games are a boogie man because it's easier to target them than to deal with the big issues... win or lose, society will just move on to another one when this one's time is passed, because nobody wants to deal with the big stuff that's actually hard. It's better to make excuses.

I'm getting further and further afield of the issue, but the bottom line is that this is not a new thing. This paticular incident might be getting a little more press, especially seeing as the guys doing it seem to be trying to ban children playing directly, as opposed to putting strict supervision requirements on it and such and then fining people, or having a few parents brought up on tresspassing charges, and then just letting those warnings snowball into compliance.
 

geezah91

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Sorry but this has been going on in Ireland since the turn of the millennium. We weren't allowed to play tag, and we had one ball for the entire school in primary school. It's not that the school had no money, it's that insurance companies had the school by the balls.
 

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The thing is, this ISN't about over protective parents. It's about irresponsible parents and the government trying to do the parents' job.
 

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TheIronRuler said:
yndsu said:
TheIronRuler said:
The funny part is that the same parents let their Television educate their children, and let the school give them social and moral values.
That is the sad part.
There is pretty much no value what so ever in TV.
And in the schools there is no moral nor social values.
I beg to differ, my school did teach me moral and social values.
Their efficiency is lacking. At some point I switched to a different view, one that draws heavily on objectivism, but is not entirely derived from.
An example to establish my point, I would let an old man my seat in a bus but if I had to chooce between saving myself or a mother with a child I would save myself.
My kid brother has the Television educate him and I try desperately to keep him away from it and try to talk to him about anything, mainly to further his vocabulary (the little bloke is four years old) but also to keep him away from the television.
Fair enogh. In reality the TV would be the one lacking morals.
School would be better.
But at the same time i personally disagree with the objectivism.
Well, mostly with how people us it to justify to be complete ar**holes for the
lack of a better word.

Still, i learned my values and morals from my parents and that is how it
really should be. That is what they are there for.
School is there to learn how to read and write and social skills.

But that is just how i see it. And what do i know eh ?
(Only what i believe in)
 

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Dexiro said:
This obsession with wrapping kids up in cotton wool is fucking frustrating.

Getting hurt is a natural part of growing up, so much so that I've even heard psychologists argue that it's essential for whatever googleworthy reasons. At the very least it helps us assess risks and dangerous situations which is freaking important.

Sure if something is directly causing kids to die or is inherently dangerous then it should be discouraged and maybe even banned.
Playing tag? No danger at all. Someone might fall over from running and scrape their knee but that's a direct result of running, not playing tag. Hell you could even fall over from walking, are they gonna ban that too?
They aren't banning tag, they're banning tag inside the subdivision, which has no lawns or backyards. It's all roads and parking lots.

There's a church 100 yards away with a wide open lawn. This ban will not prohibit the kids from playing tag over there.
 

Dbaker05

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Its not the teachers fault for being scared of being sued, nor is it the parents fault for being over protective, the real peolple who are responsible are the kids. children are far too willing to listen to their teachers or their parents instaed of ignoring them. when I was at primary school the teachers tried to ban us from playing any type of contact game, so after that we only played contact games and we made them as violent as possible until the teachers just gave up trying to stop us.
 

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More obligatory nonsense from the overprotective group. Do they not trust their kids? Do they not understand that getting hurt is a part of life? When I was a kid, I'd always do things that could've gotten me hurt or dirty. It was how I learned early on. It was how I got life experience. Risk. Now, keep in mind I'm not advocating all forms of stupidity, such as playing in construction yards or touching downed power lines, but there is something to be said about being too overprotective, or even projecting. I'm even willing to bet these are the same kind of people who blame violent actions on exposure to video games.