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tellmeimaninja said:
sasquatch99 said:
IdealistCommi said:
sasquatch99 said:
Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.
The ACS module that you were sent to steal in the first level had a shit load of information on the US satellite defense system. It was copied, so the Russians could disable the defense long enough to slip over the arctic to America.

I think. I am too tired to remember correctly

And that is how babies are made they did that
Ah. That would explain it.
Cheers.
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You better not be that guy who hosted Punk'd.
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MW2- Why didn't the CIA Agent just shoot Makarov in the head and say, "Yo, I got him dead, so you FSB boys can go home now." Seems stupid because he could have stopped a war with a single magazine.
 

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i think i would have to say the mario and sonic games, i.e. mario and sonic at the winter/olympics
whats up with that?
and SSBB...
 
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sasquatch99 said:
tellmeimaninja said:
sasquatch99 said:
IdealistCommi said:
sasquatch99 said:
Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.
The ACS module that you were sent to steal in the first level had a shit load of information on the US satellite defense system. It was copied, so the Russians could disable the defense long enough to slip over the arctic to America.

I think. I am too tired to remember correctly

And that is how babies are made they did that
Ah. That would explain it.
Cheers.
You just got EXPLAIN'd Biz-natch!
You better not be that guy who hosted Punk'd.
God help you if you are.
Ashton Kutcher?
 

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Super_Nintendo_Chalmers said:
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tellmeimaninja said:
You just got EXPLAIN'd Biz-natch!
You better not be that guy who hosted Punk'd.
God help you if you are.
Ashton Kutcher?
I believe that is his name.
I wish to punch him hard. In the face. With a hammer.
 

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Probably in MW2 with the terrorist attack level. y didnt they just check the CCTV and see that they were lead by markorov, and why didnt the US atttempt to prove your guy was undercover
 
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sasquatch99 said:
Super_Nintendo_Chalmers said:
sasquatch99 said:
tellmeimaninja said:
You just got EXPLAIN'd Biz-natch!
You better not be that guy who hosted Punk'd.
God help you if you are.
Ashton Kutcher?
I believe that is his name.
I wish to punch him hard. In the face. With a hammer.
He is rather annoying. Although I'd prefer to simply whack him in the crotch region.
 
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Probably in MW2 with the terrorist attack level. y didnt they just check the CCTV and see that they were lead by markorov, and why didnt the US atttempt to prove your guy was undercover
I guess that'd be a complicated issue to discuss. It's like if the special forces came to your place saying;
"Oh I'm terribly sorry son/sweetheart, but one of our men killed your mother. But it was alright, because he was undercover, and we got the guy, right?"
You'd still be furious, regardless of what the reasoning behind it was.
 
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I'm offering up Final Fantasy VIII as one great big plot hole myself. However, I'm still trying to figure out how popping in and out of pipes lodged in Bowser's ass can transport Weege and his fag ass brother to various places in the mushroom kingdom in Bowser's Inside Story.
 

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Super_Nintendo_Chalmers said:
sasquatch99 said:
Super_Nintendo_Chalmers said:
sasquatch99 said:
tellmeimaninja said:
You just got EXPLAIN'd Biz-natch!
You better not be that guy who hosted Punk'd.
God help you if you are.
Ashton Kutcher?
I believe that is his name.
I wish to punch him hard. In the face. With a hammer.
He is rather annoying. Although I'd prefer to simply whack him in the crotch region.
Nah. Face is where it's at.
I prefer to see blood flow when I hurt someone.
I shall now stop derailing your thread with how I want to kill Ashton.
 

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Can't think of any major ones at the moment apart from the afore metioned MW2 and Bioshock ones. But there was a few niggling moments from FF7 that always irritated me.
After you beat Sephiroth on the ship you get off at the port and no-one has any reaction or thoughts to share, even the sailors on the ship. I'm pretty sure that most of the crew and soldiers were killed and you fought a huge slavering monstrosity. And yet no one seems to have noticed. Whats with that?
Then again it is just a game. If you start ripping on plot holes in made up forms of entertainment you might as well start questioning everything about it. Like, why is it an excepted fact that Clouds hair stays up? How did Rufus survive being cut with a massive bloody sword? And why does that damn midgar volem keep respawning?
Man that post was way longer then it was meant to be. Maybe I've been replaying that game too much lately.
 

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wax88 said:
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wax88 said:
sasquatch99 said:
Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.
and explain it, i shall-remember in "cliff hanger" where you were told to retrieve an ACS module captured by the russians? that ACS module is a key component in the surveillance systems for the US. and probably the russians were able to crack it, thus allowing them to freely bypass the american surveilance systems.
I just might be incredibly retarded but I thought you and Soap get the ACS module, how did the Russians get it? Unless I'm an idiot and Soap works for Russia.
as in you were sent to retrieve the ACS module that briefly fell into russian hands-idea being to prevent them from having enough time to crack it. problem is even though soap and roach retrieved the ACS module back, it was too late as the russians have already cracked the module even before soap and roach managed to recover it.

as for how the ACS module fell into russian hands-it was not stated...

but there could be many ways that it could've been stolen.
if you listento the campaign enough i heard it was recovered from a fallen sattelite. plus thats why they knew the russians had it they tracked where it fell and what happend.
 

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Nwabudike Morgan said:
Probably the Mario games and how, after doing it more times than I can count or even remember, Bowser is STILL able to catch the entire Mushroom Kingdom off-guard and kidnap the princess. I mean, you'd think that after the second time they'd always be on the lookout, but nope!
No, no, no... you have it all wrong. Bowser and the Princess have a forbidden love. But every time they run off to elope, that evil little plumber comes and kidnaps her. Mario is actually enslaving the kingdom by holding the Princess hostage so that he can charge higher rates for his failing plumbing business.
 

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I haven't read through all the responses, but I think there's some confusion between plot holes and MacGuffins [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin][wikipedia.org]. Specifically
The MacGuffin can sometimes be ambiguous, completely undefined, generic or left open to interpretation.
Something like how Rapture was built (Bioshock), or telepathically controlled soldiers (FEAR). They're unrealistic plot devices that you just accept for the sake of fiction and are not necessarily plot holes, because, while they drive the plot and provide a foundation, the explanation as to their origins is not important for the development of the story.

EDIT: By the by, enclosing your whole post in spoiler tags doesn't help much, or enclosing the ending to a game without saying which one. How is one supposed to know if it's a spoiler (for him) or not? I've seen this done a lot and I find it a bit annoying. Is it so hard to say "Ending to game X Plot hole description."?
 
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achilleas.k said:
I haven't read through all the responses, but I think there's some confusion between plot holes and MacGuffins [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin][wikipedia.org]. Specifically
The MacGuffin can sometimes be ambiguous, completely undefined, generic or left open to interpretation.
Something like how Rapture was built (Bioshock), or telepathically controlled soldiers (FEAR). They're unrealistic plot devices that you just accept for the sake of fiction and are not necessarily plot holes, because, while they drive the plot and provide a foundation, the explanation as to their origins is not important for the development of the story.
I had no idea what it was called, but yes I know what you're talking about.
Cheers for clearing that up, and now I'll be able to remember it for it's funny name :)
 

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In WET you kept meeting some side characters that Ruby knew from her past but we were never offered a single explanation on how she knew them and from when. Hell we spend one mission trying to help one of these people and I dont know why we should care aboutt the shlub.

That and the shitty ending really compounded a truly horrible game.
 
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Venatio said:
In WET you kept meeting some side characters that Ruby knew from her past but we were never offered a single explanation on how she knew them and from when. Hell we spend one mission trying to help one of these people and I dont know why we should care aboutt the shlub.

That and the shitty ending really compounded a truly horrible game.
I played the demo, and I just thought it was very generic, and incredibly repetitive.
Although I did enjoy the small level where you went into this sort of animated Kill Bill-esque sequence, and took out bad guys with double-uzis.
 

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FROGGEman2 said:
Firstly, It Was His Sled.
Secondly,
27.Why the fuck did Roach run with the plan to kill civilians?
28.Why the fuck didn't he just kill Makarov?
29.Why the fuck did Roach kill the civilians?
30.How the fuck did they know he wasn't a Rusky?
Just so you know
Roach was never near Makarov. The guy you play as on the airport level, is the same guy you did The Pit with.
Apart from that, you really do have a valid point.
 

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sasquatch99 said:
Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.
They were using Cold Blooded and Ninja Pro.