Leave me alone PC gamers!

[Spitfire]

You're taking this way too personal. Just because people criticize your gaming platform of choice, doesn't mean that they're judging you personally.

 

[Kristian Fischer]

I think you mean "Leave me alone douchebags", not "Leave me alone PC gamers".

 

[TelHybrid]

Oh boo hoo, somebody disagrees with you on the internet.

 

[dtgenshiken7]

This is unfair generalization of PC gamers. I am one myself, and yes there is quite a problem with others who insist that consoles are absolute shite, but you can't just up and tell us all that we are frothing at the mouth because some people opt to use consoles. Heck, I only play games like Skyrim on my Ps3 due to the intuitive control layout as opposed to the clunky PC controls. Again, don't just insult us all, it is only a part of the PC gamers that make up the angry elitist group.

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

I pay 200-300 bucks for my consoles. No superior PC has been able to match that price without going through some insane amounts of auction dice rolling and very limited time sales.

1) Do you own a PC? What did that cost? Whats the cost differential because you're going to own a PC either way, only I will only have a PC and you will buy both a PC and a console.

2) You said "consoles" Do you own multiple consoles? A PC is able to effectively emulate multiple consoles and thus has no need for multiple systems. Add in that cost as well.

3) Because as I mentioned before developing for consoles requires buying a license to do so, development costs are increased. Which is a buck they pass on to you by raising game prices. Your only respite from this is selling games back/buying used. Which is a practice that is being ended with locks on next-gen consoles.

4) Steam sales allow you to get games for extremely cheap a few months after release.

5) How often do you buy a new consoles my PCs generally cost about 750-850$ to create a full new PC which will last me about 5 years before it can't handle new games on good settings. With my last computer I did have to buy a new Mobo for 11$ on ebay.

6) I don't actually bother with this, but I know people who do. You can buy a PC GPU with an unlimited warranty. Wait like 7 or 8 months then break it purposefully with overclocking. Return it to the manufacturer and they will upgrade it with a similarly powerful GPU. However they usually round up as it were and give you a slightly better one. You can keep doing this ad-infinitum if you're a jerk and want to basically steal from the manufacturers.

 

[Grach]

Unless you own every console and a gaming quality PC, you're missing out on good games no matter what. So everyone is going to miss some games.
It still surprises me how many people don't understand this.

This is pretty much the /thread here. I love how people forget that a platform without games is only an overpriced blu-ray/dvd player at most in the case of consoles and just a work station and overpriced internet browser in the case of pc's.

Jeez, I wonder WHY they bash you so very hard about having a seriously inferior, overpriced, inconvenient, technologically obsolete and locked down system.

And just so that you're aware, if you're not already:
Consoles are the cause for all the bad things in the industry. Not for the industry mind you, but in the industry. What we game-playing folk want.

TL;DR: Fuck consoles.

Very cute trolling. I almost fell for it.
I'm only limit myself to say that this reminds me of Moviebob blaming the FPS genre for everything wrong with games today.

 

[Souplex]

They're still the minority, moreso now than ever.
They're just a much louder more obnoxious minority.

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

240 when I got it, bought it second hand intact from someone who was upgrading.

Meaning that you likely got it under market price, and thus can not be used as an example of cost comparisons. If it works for you, that's fine. But it doesn't mean it's cost efficient for everyone. According to the googles the average person is going to spend about 600$ on a new computer.

You said

About 5 years as well, but I only spend 200-300 for it. Not 700-800 bones.

and that you own two consoles. If we assume a dead median price we have 500 for your consoles and 240 for your PC making it 740 which is to say basically the same cost for your 3 mostly redundant systems compared to my one. Which is also just the case for you(Because if we take googles apparent median computer purchase then you're at about 1100$ compared to my high of 800.

4) Steam sales allow you to get games for extremely cheap a few months after release.

If your PC can handle them. Mine can't.

Which is the reality and not the hypothetical reality we are discussing. Meaning that you basically paid almost the exact same amount as I did, except now I get cheaper games and thus come out ahead.

Yea, I ain't factoring in piracy if that's what you're going at.

Downloading abandonware is not piracy, so no, that's not what I'm getting at. And most games worth anything that aren't abandonware have already been ported. The only noteworthy exception I can think of would be Red Dead Redemption.

There's also another factor at play here; I don't live alone, and my GF and I both use the computer for a whole slew of work related activities. Hence, having a console means the gaming isn't tied up.

This is the only argument you have made that holds any water. And it only does so in a very limited way. I already explained in a previous post but essentially the more focused the industry becomes the more economically efficient they will be at building for that system. Ignoring the fact that most people bought L.A. Noire for 60$ and I got it for 5$; if you reduce the pricing on single PCs(as more competition always does) you make it economically viable for people like you to simply have two PCs that can accomplish everything, rather than 3 pieces of restrictive sets of hardware. Even if you had to pay more to get a PC(which is only true in a very very limited set of circumstances) you are going to very quickly(if everyone actually did it) over the course of a few years lower the market rates far below the current conditions allowing the customers to keep more money and the developers to spend more developing games instead of buying licenses.

The opposite does not hold true. If we invest more in consoles, PCs don't simply disappear they simply become specialized as well. The computing power is still there it just isn't being harnessed in a utilitarian manner thus the costs go up slightly for each individual system(as manufacturing is split) and we become forced to buy both at increased prices. So the question is would you like to spend a bunch of extra money over your lifetime or a little bit extra for now to drive down the prices.

Of course that's all game theory and no one will follow it because people are either stupid or distrustful of eachother(As it only actually works that way if the majority of people switch to it.) And it also only applies to you and select other people in this manner. Because as I pointed out according to our collective math, the average person still benefits more from buying a computer.

 

[MundaneOddity]

People need to feel like they are superior, and having a thing that's even a tiny bit better than your thing means that they can act superior. I game primarily on console, just because it's something I'm more comfortable with, but that doesn't stop me from booting up my PC whenever a game I want is available exclusively for it. Anybody that wants to throw a label on themselves and claim to have a better system, no matter what it is, is a complete and total tool, and should not be taken seriously by any means.

That said, I personally despise PC gamers the most out of all the fanboy groups, they are a bunch of pretentious, superiority complex having twats that should go die in a fire. Just because your games are a little shinier doesn't mean your choices are better than mine you ****. I thought graphics didn't matter guys, so why on earth do you feel the need to flaunt your superior engines every ten seconds?

This, just this.

OT: I never really cared about the whole "Console wars" thing since it just seems like a pissing contest between two very small segments of two otherwise reasonable demographics, whining children on consoles, and elitist PC gamers who would castrate you if you weren't running your game on anything that is not a PC. Thankfully the Escapist does not seem to harbor these two groups.

 

[schwitz]

Agree with the general feel of this post.
I'm a big PC and Retro gamer, got 100+ titles to my steam acct. and I own a N64 with 50+ carts. but I still don't understand the amount of hatred between the platforms. I'd love to be able to play games against friends on more modern games when they come over, but PC doesn't do split-screen all that well. Hence why I'll invest in a PS3 within the next few weeks.

Of course there are pros and cons to PC and consoles. just as there are in any argument. But what I want the most, is for a developer to breach the gap and make games able to play multi-player cross-platform. It may never happen, but it would be really interesting and awesome if does.

Generally speaking most gamers wont, for instance give death threats to opposite users. But as in every other aspect of the world at the moment, there are always extremists that take things too far and ruin things for everyone.

"Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends..."

 

[teebeeohh]

this is all very stupid(the discussion i mean, there probably are idiots who would hate you for your choice in breakfast)
oh and i have a completely off-topic question: why does nobody ever factor the lower cost of games on a PC into the hardware price discussion? i mean newly released PC titles are 50?, console titles are 60? so if i buy a lot of games i will have payed less total for games and hardware after x years.

also: thank you people who kept this console generation alive, you slowed down PC hardware development and made this much more affordable.

 

[Charli]

Egh like what you like sir, I PC game because I'm poor. XD
Console games tend to do me up the arse for a decent time where I can pick up a handful of indie games on the PC for next to nothing... not hard to see which one wins. My PC is good but I sacrificed nearly a year of social activity and snack food to contribute to it's monetary justification. So I feel I kind of owe it to myself also.

On the plus side I'm slimmer! ...Lonely but slim. Kinda balances out ish.

Consoles can be great fun also and I still play PS2 when I feel like slobbing around with an old game.

 

[Flunk]

I dunno man, I'm really surprised that people make fun of your console when you play Warhammer. I mean there is nerdy and then there is... Yeah, Warhammer is one of those things that is a huge red flag to girls. Seriously.